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Post by hhsussex on Oct 17, 2014 10:47:25 GMT
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Oct 17, 2014 11:28:45 GMT
hhs, What a farce! The authorities, legal system etc.. are dragging their feet over a court case that could rock the cricketing world and potentially have a devastating effect on the sport. So, no surprise then. The excuse given is that due to the high number of professional cricketers who will be called as witnesses, the quietest time in the world cricket calendar is allegedly October and why October 5th, 2015 has been offered. Although, this is still a provisional date! Obvious question: We are presently in October 2014, why not arrange it for now? Presumably, due to the overstretched and nature of the legal system, it requires a year to oil the wheels. So what happens to the primary witness Lou Vincent? He has been in hiding due to, so he claims, death threats from the Asian underworld. Will Vincent be placed in a witness protection programme for the next year? How does this work? www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/cricket/article-2795793/former-new-zealand-captain-chris-cairns-appears-southwark-crown-court-perjury-charge.htmlwww.radiosport.co.nz/video/video-lou-vincent-part-5-2jul2014www.radiosport.co.nz/video/video-lou-vincent-part-3-2jul2014
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Post by deepextracover on Oct 17, 2014 11:29:55 GMT
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Oct 17, 2014 11:40:26 GMT
dexc,
That is my point.
Given the importance of this case, you make sure witnesses are available. You make sure that a case of such magnitude and importance is given a high priority and not merely dragged on and on. October 5th, 2015 is only provisional.
Whatever your views on Lou Vincent, the two videos show a man seeking redemption. He is very courageous to come forward and blow the lid on the whole appalling match-fixing scandal that may have gone on for decades but has been buried by the ICC. Where is the support for Vincent? As he says the issue "is huge" but "the power of good will win."
One just hopes Vincent isn't killed before the case finally comes to court around 2017. Meanwhile, the match-fixing may continue and certain players and their 'Asian minders' will continue to make a pot of dirty money.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2014 14:10:59 GMT
S&F, many thanks for posting the links to the two radio interviews with Lou Vincent. Excellent research to find them. Fascinating watching, especially his Partner's reaction to the question whether 'his hero' should be jailed. Clearly have to wait for the court proceedings to know where the ultimate truth lies.
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Nov 15, 2014 16:13:26 GMT
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Nov 18, 2014 11:11:50 GMT
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Post by hhsussex on Nov 18, 2014 11:29:36 GMT
The BBC report gives the impression that Srinivasan was completely cleared of all impropriety. In fact the Mudgal report explicitly states that he knew about an (unnamed) IPL player violating the code of conduct yet took no action about it. What we have with the BCCI, to a large extent with the ICC, and certainly with FIFA is something that many of these giant sporting cartels have in common: they regard themselves as being too big and too important to the game to admit to any failings. Consider also motor racing, whose governing body dare not bring itself to find a word of censure for Bernie Ecclestone's obscene wealth and his bribery of the official charged with managing the sale of rights to Formula One. FIFA's concept of Corporate Governance and Ethics is of course to blackguard any of its members who blow the whistle or applaud any whistleblowers. Meanwhile a succession of crooks and chancers, from Modi himelf (not a hero for any self-respecting journo, s and f) through Srinivasan and their dupes in other boards, some of them serial dupes, having already been conned by Ponzi practitioners, continue to espouse noble platitudes about the Spirit of the Game while they have their egos massaged by the supine media. No wonder the bookies thrive, and will continue to do so, catering to the gullible, exploiting the slow-witted, the greedy and the cynical.
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Jan 13, 2015 11:13:41 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2015 20:58:50 GMT
Confirmation that the three banned Pakistanis could have their convictions overturned by the CPS: www.theguardian.com/sport/2015/jan/15/pakistan-spot-fixing-fake-sheikhAbsolute tragedy that the brilliant 18 year old Mohammad Amir has lost five of the best years of his cricketing life to what may well be ruled an unsafe conviction. It's a travesty of justice that a naive 18 year old kid was sent to to prison when the infinitely more venal Sussex cheats Naved Arif and Llou Vincent remain at liberty. If the conviction is overturned, I hope that Amir sues the ICC for millions, in addition to the compensation he will be due from from the crown.
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Post by flashblade on Jan 15, 2015 21:33:26 GMT
Confirmation that the three banned Pakistanis could have their convictions overturned by the CPS: www.theguardian.com/sport/2015/jan/15/pakistan-spot-fixing-fake-sheikhAbsolute tragedy that the brilliant 18 year old Mohammad Amir has lost five of the best years of his cricketing life to what may well be ruled an unsafe conviction. It's a travesty of justice that a naive 18 year old kid was sent to to prison when the infinitely more venal Sussex cheats Naved Arif and Llou Vincent remain at liberty. If the conviction is overturned, I hope that Amir sues the ICC for millions, in addition to the compensation he will be due from from the crown. IIRC, all 3 Pakistanis eventually admitted the spot fixing? No?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2015 22:06:05 GMT
Amir pleaded guilty from the outset (unlike the other two). But the pleas either way don't alter the contention that they were set up and entrapped by a now discredited individual , in which case the CPS must surely now conclude that the convictions are unsafe.
Couldn't give a toss about the other two. But what kind of evil piece of low-life tries to destroy the life of a naive 17/18 year old kid - and then why would the court not take a leninent view of the way in which he was exploited not only by the crooked 'fake sheikh' but by his own captain?
Compared to the criminality of what the Sussex players did, he's an innocent ingenue. Yet he's been punished far more severely.
My compassion for Amir has been unwavering from the day the story broke in the unlamented comic that was the News Of The World and nothing will give me greater pleasure than to see him back in Test cricket in 2015.
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Post by hhsussex on Jan 16, 2015 13:05:00 GMT
Well, here is something to look forward to, or to put it another way, to cast a shadow across the summer for a number of high profile people in the cricket industry.
Nick Hoult tweets: Chris Cairns pleads Not Guilty to charge of perjury at Old Bailey. Andrew Fitch Holland pleads not guilty to perverting course of justice
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Trial date set for October 5th at Southwark Crown Court
Fitch-Holland was, of course, the barrister who appeared as a witness for Cairns in his libel trail against Lalit Modi over claims of corruption in the ICL. The charge hinges on whether Cairns lost his contract because of injury, as he claimed and Fitch-Holland endorsed, or was dismissed for match-fixing.
The fallout from the evidence here, regardless of verdict, may make many current and former players and officials a little anxious.
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Jan 16, 2015 16:41:22 GMT
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Jan 22, 2015 10:58:55 GMT
It's all happening in India right now. Judgements galore being made over the 2013 alleged IPL scandal. Nick Hoult has his finger on the pulse. twitter.com/nhoultcricketEd Hawkins, author of the excellent corruption and match-fixing book says: So Srinivasan, head of ICC, is barred from running his own country's cricket board. His position wholly untenableMeanwhile, GD tweets: Somewhere in West London, @lalitkmodi just punched the air and shouted 'got im!'
Lalit Modi responds to this morning's ongoing verdict: Extremely happy with the Hon. Supreme Court judgement on #srinivasan ..always believed that I would be vindicated #IPLVerdictWhile, 'Cricinfo' has a live blog following events. www.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/story/822939.htmlThe background to this major court case via a series of quotes. www.espncricinfo.com/india/content/story/816685.htmlPS: Peter Miller aka 'the cricket geek' is also following events closely. twitter.com/thecricketgeekAn interesting footnote: Miller has co-written a book entitled '2nd XI - Cricket in its Outposts' with well-known journalist Tim Wigmore who is a follower of this Forum's Twitter. The book is just out.
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