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Post by hhsussex on Jan 25, 2015 9:26:26 GMT
A wonderful article about the corruption of the IPL - and much more in Indian public life - here The IPL is the worst form of crony competition in India,written in tones that I or borderman, for example, could only aspire to in the worst of all circumstances,when battling an impossible hangover and trying to comprehend the idiocy and mendacity of a UKIP statement: " The Indian Premier League is also widely and justifiably viewed as a civilisational nadir. A previously unimaginable blend of bad taste and bad faith, the IPL manages to simultaneously insult women, history, cricketing skill, and the intelligence of its viewers. " It is an extract from a book by Mihir S Sharma, a politicical and economic columnist of great note,and I hope it gets published here.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2015 11:33:54 GMT
The ICC was furious at its failure to secure a ban against Darren Stevens for failing to report two corrupt approaches and against the others involved in the Bangladesh fixing scandal, believing they had them all 'bang to rights' and that they escaped punishment on a technicality. They appealed the decisions last July. After six months silence, according to Legside Lizzie, moonlighting from her Daily Mirror gig and writing in The Independent, Stevens and his fellow suspects are finally due back in court, when the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS) will reopen the case in an appeal hearing in Laussane. The one consolation for Stevens is that if he is banned (and the ICC apparently remains convinced that their case is watertight),the affair has now dragged on for two years, so that given he's 39 years old at the start of next season, he's not going to lose many playing days. Although presumably a ban would also apply to any plans he has for a coaching/umpiring career? www.independent.co.uk/sport/cricket/matchfixing-case-set-to-go-to-appeal-court-10000671.html
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Feb 6, 2015 17:50:08 GMT
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Post by hhsussex on Feb 6, 2015 19:36:05 GMT
Apart from a cute sound-bite, what does that tell us about the ICC approach to corruption? Does it suggest that Sir Ronnie Flanagan, the Red Hand of the Police Service of Northern Ireland, has a clue about the scope and complexity of the sophisticated machinations of cricket bookmakers? It even sounds a little patronising about the cricketers in its analogy with the "innocence" of young children, unused to the corrupt ways of the adult world. Above all, does it offer any evidence in support of his assurance that "the paying public that they will be coming to a tournament where all of those involved will ensure it will be free from corruption or threat of corruption."? The whole thing comes across as a sententious homily, well-meant, forthright in delivery, but lacking in substance. Meanwhile Sir Ronnie continued his patronage with a very heavy-handed explanation of his decision to allow Mohammad Ameer to return to domestic cricket following his conviction and penalties. Rather than a clear, rational statement of the legal principles he adhered to, he chose to describe it as a kind of tortuous, agonised conscience issue "So the consideration that I gave in relation to Amir, and it’s my discretion so I stand by it and take responsibility for it, was after a very rigorous examination of the entire case, very thorough consideration of his personal reaction – did he plead guilty?". It very much reads as if Sir Ronnie was the one on trial defending himself and asserting his right to continue his path as a law-abiding (henceforward) citizen.
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Feb 7, 2015 9:52:33 GMT
Has anyone ever taken Sir Ronnie Flanagan's cricket corruption role seriously? Our own Chris Watts has more determination to clean up the problem in his little finger? Ronnie typifies the ineffectual lapdog that the establishment like so much. His position was chosen, perhaps, because the establishment know he will do what he's told and won't rock the boat. In return, he gains a knighthood which is a common form of reward. Apart from the occasional gaffe which is viewed more as an eccentricity, there has been a long suspicion that Ronnie's inability to change the course of cricket corruption and bring anyone to justice is either a sign of complete incompetence or he's in the pocket of the Asian underworld. I wouldn't be surprised if it is the former. The last thing the establishment need is a 'do or die' Rocky character who will wade in with Kalashnikov's blazing and bring down a large part of the ICC whilst destroying cricket with a few choice hand grenades.
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Post by flashblade on Feb 12, 2015 14:38:57 GMT
For anyone who's interested, I'm undertaking a university study to do with match-fixing in cricket, and investigating to what extent it has damaged the integrity and reputation of the game. As part of the research, I'm aiming to gather fans' opinion on the matter through an online survey. Any responses would be hugely appreciated, and the survey will only take a few minutes to complete. The link is goo.gl/forms/ZuralWevJPThe more feedback I'm able to gain from cricket fans the better! Thank you to all that take part. Very interesting project - I wish you well. I've just completed your survey.
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Feb 12, 2015 17:17:43 GMT
The link is goo.gl/forms/ZuralWevJP
The more feedback I'm able to gain from cricket fans the better!
Thank you to all that take part.
Excellent initiative. I wish you every good luck and I hope Forum members will participate. I have just answered your questions and returned them.
This Autumn should be interesting when Chris Cairns finally comes to court... again. Two former Sussex T20 players will be in the witness box stating Cairns both fixed matches and was behind influencing corrupt games in India, New Zealand and England.
If Cairns is found guilty, the case could blow up this whole appalling scandal, quite rightly, in the ICC face. Cricket may never be the same again, so your questionnaire is well timed.
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Post by hhsussex on Feb 13, 2015 14:11:16 GMT
As much as I'd like to see justice prevail and all guilty perpatrators exposed, this would potentially leave an extrememly damaging mark on cricket. It will be very interesting to see how it all comes out. I rather think the mark is there already, but not everyone can see how dirty or how extensive it is. That was certainly the experience we had last year at Sussex when the exposure of Naved Arif and Lou Vincent was made public - a big shock for fans and players and a shockwave running through the membership and fanbase of the club.
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Post by flashblade on Feb 13, 2015 16:06:02 GMT
As much as I'd like to see justice prevail and all guilty perpatrators exposed, this would potentially leave an extrememly damaging mark on cricket. It will be very interesting to see how it all comes out. I rather think the mark is there already, but not everyone can see how dirty or how extensive it is. That was certainly the experience we had last year at Sussex when the exposure of Naved Arif and Lou Vincent was made public - a big shock for fans and players and a shockwave running through the membership and fanbase of the club. I would prefer to see the game cleaned up, whatever the damage. We can then re-build. I don't think we should bury the corruption for fear of besmirching cricket's good name!!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2015 19:21:29 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2015 10:34:57 GMT
Stevens talks about his two years of hell following corruption charges in Bangladesh: www.espncricinfo.com/england/content/story/842393.htmlBut he seems to admit his guilt in this quote: "Because I didn't report at that time a suspicious act I have gone through hell over the last two years." The charges against him were for failure to report and as the ICC has appealed his not guilty verdict, you'd imagine their lawyers will be all over that admission ? You can watch the Stevens interview in the PCA's video here: www.thepca.co.uk/anti-corruption.html
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Post by theleopard on Mar 3, 2015 11:13:41 GMT
So, let's say I'm an employee somewhere and I think:
"Hmm, I have my suspicions that so-and-so is up to no good here. But I can't be sure. Hmmm..."
Subsequently the person is found to have been up to no good.
"So, did you know that so-and-so was up to no good?"
"Well, no, I didn't know, but I had my suspicions."
"Right. We will make sure you never ever work in this profession again. You are finished."
How can this be right?
Surely a measured response would be:
"OK. But, please, if you do suspect anything in the future, even if you're not sure, don't be afraid to come and tell us."
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2015 11:26:09 GMT
So, let's say I'm an employee somewhere and I think: "Hmm, I have my suspicions that so-and-so is up to no good here. But I can't be sure. Hmmm..." It would rather depend upon whether you had signed up to a legally-binding Anti-Corruption Code which required you to report even a hint of anything suspicious and had undergone training lectures and instructional videos in your responsibilities to do so... If you had undegone all of that and still failed to report your suspicions, then you would be pretty foolish and would arguably deserve to have the book thrown at you.
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Post by hhsussex on Mar 3, 2015 17:10:23 GMT
Stevens talks about his two years of hell following corruption charges in Bangladesh: www.espncricinfo.com/england/content/story/842393.htmlBut he seems to admit his guilt in this quote: "Because I didn't report at that time a suspicious act I have gone through hell over the last two years." The charges against him were for failure to report and as the ICC has appealed his not guilty verdict, you'd imagine their lawyers will be all over that admission ? You can watch the Stevens interview in the PCA's video here: www.thepca.co.uk/anti-corruption.htmlThe "two years of hell" sounds like an object lesson applied by the ICC ACU to serve as a warning to all others. As the Comments to the Cricinfo article you've quoted point out, there have been and are numerous "health warnings" about the BPL in particular, as well as the mandatory Code to which all professional cricketers must adhere to. I'm sure these lessons won't have been lost on Zaidi, who has been playing in that league this winter.
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Jul 14, 2015 10:57:25 GMT
Finally, justice is meted out to several Franchises in the IPL for corruption including the Chennai Superkings. Banned for up to 2 years, the competition may become rather small and last a shorter time in the years ahead.
edit. To save the competition the two charged franchises which also include the Royals can continue if they have new owners. Meanwhile, Indian cricket will come under far stricter scrutiny alongside tighter regulations.
An important day for justice and ending the rampant corruption within Asian cricket.
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