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Post by coverpoint on Aug 2, 2015 16:51:33 GMT
Some noteworthy performances in 2015 include:
Ellen Burt 39 wickets @ 15 with a best of 4-11 against Essex and runs 821 @ 46 with a best of 77 against Surrey
Tara Norris 34 wickets @ 15 including a 5-for and a six-for in three days and 389 runs @ 24
Flora Bertwistle 26 wickets @ 13 with a best of 3-10 against Hampshire
Joe Billings 562 runs @ 31 with a best of 210 against Surrey
Will Collard 20 wickets @ 18 with a best of 3-5 against Oxfordshire
Nick Oxley 19 wickets @ 31 including 7-86 against Brighton and Hove
Nick Smith 17 wickets @ 23 with a best of 5-15 against Cambridgeshire
Tom Gordon 14 wickets @ 29 with a best of 3-21 against Essex
I expect these eight to join incumbents Tom Haines, Daniel Doram, Jonty Jenner and Delray Rawlins in the Academy next season. i would offer Phil Salt, and George Garton junior pro contracts, release Cammish and promote Izzy Collis to the Women's squad.
For the EPP there is all-rounders Ella McCaughan (471 @ 59 and 18 wickets @ 9) and Ella Wadey (387 @ 20 and 11 wickets @ 37), seamers Coco Streets (17 wickets @ 13 and 213 runs), Ella Bourne 15 wickets @ 13 and 289 runs, Hollie Young (14 wickets @ 6 and 153 runs), Ellie Bottling (14 wickets @ 30 and 202 runs), Ellie Robinson (14 wickets @ 32), spinners Sam Rattle (12 wickets @ 28) and Nancy Harman (11 wickets @ 9), seamers Ben Twine (9 wickets @ 51) and Sam Hobbs (8 wickets @ 22), opening batsman Tom Clark (271 runs @ 25), wicketkeeper-batsman Alistair Orr (216 runs @ 72) and opening batsman Scott Lenham (171 runs @ 57). I would add seamer Bethany Beadle who has missed the whole of this season through illness but who last season took 16 wickets @ 14.
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Post by hhsussex on Aug 3, 2015 6:39:55 GMT
Some noteworthy performances in 2015 include: Ellen Burt 28 wickets @ 13 and 660 runs @ 55 Tara Norris 23 wickets @ 16 including a 5-for and a six-for in three days Flora Bertwistle 20 wickets @ 11 with a best of 3-10 against Hampshire Joe Billings a double hundred for the U16s Nick Smith 13 wickets @ 24 including 5-15 against Cambridgeshire Nick Oxley 13 wickets @ 30 including 7-86 against Brighton and Hove Will Collard 14 wickets @ 16 with a best of 3-5 against Oxfordshire Nancy Harman 11 wickets @ 9 with a best of 5-23 against Hampshire I expect these above eight to join incumbents Tom Haines, Daniel Doram, Jonty Jenner and Delray Rawlins in the Academy next season with the overage Academy players Phil Salt, Leo Cammish and George Garton replacing Abidine Sakande, Stuart Whittingham, Sam Grant and Tim Moses as Academy Plus players and with Izzy Collis being promoted to the Sussex Women's squad. In terms of the EPP squad there is all-rounder Ella McCaughan (424 @ 85 and 15 wickets @ 9), batsman Ella Wadey (362 @ 26), seamer Hollie Young (14 wickets @ 6), seamer Coco Streets (13 wickets @ 12), seamer Ellie Bottling (13 wickets @ 24), seamer Ellie Robinson (13 wickets @ 29), seamer Tom Gordon (9 wickets @ 22), spinner Sam Rattle (8 wickets @ 25), seamer Ben Twine (5 wickets @ 50), seamer Sam Hobbs (4 wickets @ 32), opening batsman Scott Lenham (171 runs @ 57), opening batsman Tom Clark (104 runs @ 35) and wicketkeeper-batsman Alistair Orr (73 runs @ 73). I would add seamer Bethany Beadle who has missed the whole of this season through illness but who last season took 16 wickets @ 14. So where do you see these guys going to, coverpoint? Is this another generation of youth and academy players drifting away from Sussex or away from the game without reaching the first team? |
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Post by jonboy on Aug 3, 2015 9:32:15 GMT
Heard that Surrey were monitoring Sakande.
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Post by coverpoint on Aug 3, 2015 17:16:54 GMT
Some noteworthy performances in 2015 include: Ellen Burt 28 wickets @ 13 and 660 runs @ 55 Tara Norris 23 wickets @ 16 including a 5-for and a six-for in three days Flora Bertwistle 20 wickets @ 11 with a best of 3-10 against Hampshire Joe Billings a double hundred for the U16s Nick Smith 13 wickets @ 24 including 5-15 against Cambridgeshire Nick Oxley 13 wickets @ 30 including 7-86 against Brighton and Hove Will Collard 14 wickets @ 16 with a best of 3-5 against Oxfordshire Nancy Harman 11 wickets @ 9 with a best of 5-23 against Hampshire I expect these above eight to join incumbents Tom Haines, Daniel Doram, Jonty Jenner and Delray Rawlins in the Academy next season with the overage Academy players Phil Salt, Leo Cammish and George Garton replacing Abidine Sakande, Stuart Whittingham, Sam Grant and Tim Moses as Academy Plus players and with Izzy Collis being promoted to the Sussex Women's squad. In terms of the EPP squad there is all-rounder Ella McCaughan (424 @ 85 and 15 wickets @ 9), batsman Ella Wadey (362 @ 26), seamer Hollie Young (14 wickets @ 6), seamer Coco Streets (13 wickets @ 12), seamer Ellie Bottling (13 wickets @ 24), seamer Ellie Robinson (13 wickets @ 29), seamer Tom Gordon (9 wickets @ 22), spinner Sam Rattle (8 wickets @ 25), seamer Ben Twine (5 wickets @ 50), seamer Sam Hobbs (4 wickets @ 32), opening batsman Scott Lenham (171 runs @ 57), opening batsman Tom Clark (104 runs @ 35) and wicketkeeper-batsman Alistair Orr (73 runs @ 73). I would add seamer Bethany Beadle who has missed the whole of this season through illness but who last season took 16 wickets @ 14. So where do you see these guys going to, coverpoint? Is this another generation of youth and academy players drifting away from Sussex or away from the game without reaching the first team? Regarding the four players you highlighted I don't know. Sakande may end up at Surrey but I don't think he will be a great loss to Sussex as he has never really been prolific wicket taker in the age groups for Sussex. Regarding the 26 players I have identified I feel the talent is there. The question for me is more whether the existing coaches at Sussex are good enough to bring them through. As far as the boys are concerned I don't think they are. |
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Post by jonboy on Aug 4, 2015 16:35:34 GMT
So where do you see these guys going to, coverpoint? Is this another generation of youth and academy players drifting away from Sussex or away from the game without reaching the first team? Regarding the four players you highlighted I don't know. Sakande may end up at Surrey but I don't think he will be a great loss to Sussex as he has never really been prolific wicket taker in the age groups for Sussex. Regarding the 26 players I have identified I feel the talent is there. The question for me is more whether the existing coaches at Sussex are good enough to bring them through. As far as the boys are concerned I don't think they are. I watched Sakande bowl in the Uni games against Middlesex and Surrey, and he bowled very well indeed. He's also been bowling pretty well for the seconds recently and currently has helped himself to five wickets in today's game against Yorkshire. With none of our young bowlers producing great figures in the seconds, he must be the nearest to a contract. |
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Post by coverpoint on Aug 4, 2015 16:54:03 GMT
Regarding the four players you highlighted I don't know. Sakande may end up at Surrey but I don't think he will be a great loss to Sussex as he has never really been prolific wicket taker in the age groups for Sussex. Regarding the 26 players I have identified I feel the talent is there. The question for me is more whether the existing coaches at Sussex are good enough to bring them through. As far as the boys are concerned I don't think they are. I watched Sakande bowl in the Uni games against Middlesex and Surrey, and he bowled very well indeed. He's also been bowling pretty well for the seconds recently and currently has helped himself to five wickets in today's game against Yorkshire. With none of our young bowlers producing great figures in the seconds, he must be the nearest to a contract. He is improving although whether it is enough to see him get a contract remains to be seen. |
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Post by jonboy on Aug 4, 2015 17:14:51 GMT
I watched Sakande bowl in the Uni games against Middlesex and Surrey, and he bowled very well indeed. He's also been bowling pretty well for the seconds recently and currently has helped himself to five wickets in today's game against Yorkshire. With none of our young bowlers producing great figures in the seconds, he must be the nearest to a contract. I still feel he has a little way to go before we can talk about him getting a contract as in eight previous innings he has taken a wicket on only three occasions. Although he certain seems a better option than Whittingham at the moment. You're probably right, in a season of slim pickings for second eleven bowlers, of the younger players, he's shown the most improvement. In all honesty, none of the academy/academy plus has really done enough so far to warrant a contract. Ideally, it would be Garton, Salt, and maybe Cammish on academy plus contracts, and that's about it. perhaps a couple of things to consider though, with RHB, Prior and Yardy, having left or leaving, and possibly another 5 or 6 joining them, will we want to recruit that many players from outside? Would it even be possible, never mind desirable. The second thing, if we are relegated to the second division, we will probably have to set our sights a little lower, which could mean offering contracts to some of the youngsters who might not be ready for Division One cricket. My personal choice in that situation would be, and I suspect yours too, to reduce the squad, rather than pad it out with cheap imports from other counties and youngsters who are not yet ready |
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Post by coverpoint on Aug 4, 2015 17:28:22 GMT
I still feel he has a little way to go before we can talk about him getting a contract as in eight previous innings he has taken a wicket on only three occasions. Although he certain seems a better option than Whittingham at the moment. You're probably right, in a season of slim pickings for second eleven bowlers, of the younger players, he's shown the most improvement. In all honesty, none of the academy/academy plus has really done enough so far to warrant a contract. Ideally, it would be Garton, Salt, and maybe Cammish on academy plus contracts, and that's about it. perhaps a couple of things to consider though, with RHB, Prior and Yardy, having left or leaving, and possibly another 5 or 6 joining them, will we want to recruit that many players from outside? Would it even be possible, never mind desirable. The second thing, if we are relegated to the second division, we will probably have to set our sights a little lower, which could mean offering contracts to some of the youngsters who might not be ready for Division One cricket. My personal choice in that situation would be, and I suspect yours too, to reduce the squad, rather than pad it out with cheap imports from other counties and youngsters who are not yet ready I would go into next season with a squad of 20. Who are the 5/6 players you are referring to? Is it Anyon, Beer, Joyce, Liddle, Piolet and Zaidi? Both spinners maybe in trouble as clearly neither are trusted by Joyce or Robinson as the arrivals of Burgoyne and Dockrell illustrate. I don't see the point of keeping Beer, Liddle or Piolet just as one-day specialists. Unfortunately Anyon is too injury prone and this is unlikely to improve. I also think Joyce may retire. Brown Cachopa Finch Hatchett Hobden Hudson-Prentice Jackson Jordan Machan Magoffin Mills Nash Robinson Shahzad Wells Wright New opening batsman New seam bowling all-rounder New overseas spinner New second spinner |
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Post by coverpoint on Aug 4, 2015 17:43:30 GMT
Fly in the ointment in terms of my Academy selection is that 17 year old Tom Haynes of East Grinstead scored 147 for the Under 17s but has been very inconsistent during the past two seasons. Other notable performances came from Sam Rattle (4-12 in the second innings), Nick Oxley match figures of 5-43, Doram 5-49 in the first innings and 79 from Tom Nightingale. Sussex had three wicketkeepers in Joe Billings, Harry Lloyd and Jonty Jenner batting in the top four (two of which won't be eligible in 2016). www.crichq.com/#matches/282623/2nd_innings |
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Post by jonboy on Aug 4, 2015 18:02:05 GMT
You're probably right, in a season of slim pickings for second eleven bowlers, of the younger players, he's shown the most improvement. In all honesty, none of the academy/academy plus has really done enough so far to warrant a contract. Ideally, it would be Garton, Salt, and maybe Cammish on academy plus contracts, and that's about it. perhaps a couple of things to consider though, with RHB, Prior and Yardy, having left or leaving, and possibly another 5 or 6 joining them, will we want to recruit that many players from outside? Would it even be possible, never mind desirable. The second thing, if we are relegated to the second division, we will probably have to set our sights a little lower, which could mean offering contracts to some of the youngsters who might not be ready for Division One cricket. My personal choice in that situation would be, and I suspect yours too, to reduce the squad, rather than pad it out with cheap imports from other counties and youngsters who are not yet ready I would go into next season with a squad of 20. Who are the 5/6 players you are referring to? Is it Anyon, Beer, Joyce, Liddle, Piolet and Zaidi? Both spinners maybe in trouble as clearly neither are trusted by Joyce or Robinson as the arrivals of Burgoyne and Dockrell illustrate. I don't see the point of keeping Beer, Liddle or Piolet just as one-day specialists. Unfortunately Anyon is too injury prone and this is unlikely to improve. I also think Joyce may retire. Brown Cachopa Finch Hatchett Hobden Hudson-Prentice Jackson Jordan Machan Magoffin Mills Nash Robinson Shahzad Wells Wright New opening batsman New seam bowling all-rounder New overseas spinner New second spinner Again, I suppose it depends on which division we're in. The priorities remain the same though, in my opinion, it's a top order batsman, an experienced spinner and another seamer One of the latter two would preferably be an all rounder. For me, they are the three priorities, whichever division we're in. The most I would be looking to recruit, is four players. A further young seam bowler might be useful, whether that be Sakande, or someone from outside. The overseas spot is our one ace card, and I'm not sure how I'd use it. Be prudent to see who might be available domestically, and use it to cover any gaps. Good seam, or spin, bowling all rounders are notoriously difficult to find, so that would probably be my favourite. I don't think I'd like to see Joyce retire just yet, I still think he has a lot to offer, and we must use these years when we have, both him and Mags, to get ourselves back into a strong position for when we will eventually lose them. It would be very difficult to recover from losing Joyce, RHB, Prior, Yardy plus maybe Mills and Anyon, all in a 12 month period. We don't yet have the young talent to replace them all, so keeping Joyce and Mags on, will hopefully buy us time for some of the academy lads to come through. I'd also keep Will Beer on, he hasn't had a great season, but who has |
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Post by coverpoint on Aug 4, 2015 18:08:27 GMT
I would go into next season with a squad of 20. Who are the 5/6 players you are referring to? Is it Anyon, Beer, Joyce, Liddle, Piolet and Zaidi? Both spinners maybe in trouble as clearly neither are trusted by Joyce or Robinson as the arrivals of Burgoyne and Dockrell illustrate. I don't see the point of keeping Beer, Liddle or Piolet just as one-day specialists. Unfortunately Anyon is too injury prone and this is unlikely to improve. I also think Joyce may retire. Brown Cachopa Finch Hatchett Hobden Hudson-Prentice Jackson Jordan Machan Magoffin Mills Nash Robinson Shahzad Wells Wright New opening batsman New seam bowling all-rounder New overseas spinner New second spinner Again, I suppose it depends on which division we're in. The priorities remain the same though, in my opinion, it's a top order batsman, an experienced spinner and another seamer One of the latter two would preferably be an all rounder. For me, they are the three priorities, whichever division we're in. The most I would be looking to recruit, is four players. A further young seam bowler might be useful, whether that be Sakande, or someone from outside. The overseas spot is our one ace card, and I'm not sure how I'd use it. Be prudent to see who might be available domestically, and use it to cover any gaps. Good seam, or spin, bowling all rounders are notoriously difficult to find, so that would probably be my favourite. I don't think I'd like to see Joyce retire just yet, I still think he has a lot to offer, and we must use these years when we have, both him and Mags, to get ourselves back into a strong position for when we will eventually lose them. It would be very difficult to recover from losing Joyce, RHB, Prior, Yardy plus maybe Mills and Anyon, all in a 12 month period. We don't yet have the young talent to replace them all, so keeping Joyce and Mags on, will hopefully buy us time for some of the academy lads to come through. I'd also keep Will Beer on, he hasn't had a great season, but who has I would like to see Will stay but I am struggling to come with a justifiable reason for doing so. Joyce has had a very poor season and I question whether the desire is still there to turn things around as he has something of Chris Adams in his final days about him at the moment. If we were going for a further young seam bowler I would go with Sakande rather than someone from outside. |
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Post by coverpoint on Aug 7, 2015 4:45:31 GMT
In the recent game which has just finished Sussex fielded no fewer than five spinners (Collard, Doram, Oxley, Rattle and Rawlins) and just two seamers (Fazakerley and Twine). Of these Collard, Oxley, Rattle and Twine will be eligible next year where they are likely to be joined by two seamers in Nick Smith and Tom Gordon. There are likely to be no fewer than nine changes to the Under 17 squad next year with Tom Nightingale (Guernsey), Tom Haynes, Delray Rawlins (Bermuda), Dominic Sear, Jonty Jenner (Jersey), Harry Lloyd, Daniel Doram (Holland), Will Fazakerley (Guernsey) and Jamie Piper no longer eligible for the Under 17s.
The squad next year is likely to look something like this:
Batsmen
Haines (c)
Clark (new)
Lenham (new)
Lincoln
Rollings (new)
Wood (new)
Walker (new)
Keepers
Billings
Orr (new)
Spinners
Collard
Oxley
Rattle
Seamers
Atkins (new)
Bradley
Gordon
Hobbs (new)
Sarro (new)
Smith
Twine
The strength of the squad lies in the quality of the spin bowlers where we have three Academy standard spin bowlers. The batting on the other hand has just two players who have played Under 17 cricket before and one of those has only played one game and faced ten balls and scoring just four runs.
With the starting XII being: Billings (+), Clark, Collard, Gordon, Haines (c), Hobbs, Lenham, Orr, Oxley, Rattle, Smith and Twine.
Although it could be argued that in terms of seniority that Bradley, Rollings, Wood and Walker should replace Clark, Hobbs, Lenham and Orr as the above side contains only three specialist batsmen and seven bowlers (not including Clark and Haines) who can also bowl.
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Post by coverpoint on Aug 29, 2015 6:48:02 GMT
My Academy and EPP squads for 2016 would be as follows:
Academy
Berwistle
Billings
Burt
Collard
Doram
Gordon
Haines
Jenner
Norris
Oxley
Rawlins
Smith
Flora Berwistle is a left arm seamer who has taken 26 wickets @ 13 for Sussex Under 17s and the Sussex Womens team.
Ellen Burt a right arm seamer and right handed batsman who captained Sussex Under 17s and has had a phenomenal season taking 36 wickets @ 14 and scoring 816 runs @ 48 and is undoubtedly the top player, batsman and bowler of the season.
Tara Norris is a left arm seamer who for Sussex Under 17s and Sussex Womens has taken 33 wickets at an average of 15 and scored 362 runs. Most improved player.
Joe Billings is the top run scorer this season with 562 runs @ 31 largely thanks to his all-time Junior record score of 210 against Surrey. Best innings of the season.
Will Collard is a leg spinner from Ditchling who has been a consistent wicket taker having taken 20 wickets @ 18 on the back of 30 wickets @ 16 last season.
Tom Gordon is a right arm seamer who has taken 14 wickets @ 29 with a best of 3-21 against Essex and has a top score of 71 this season.
Nick Oxley is a left arm Chinaman from Worthing who has been with Sussex since the age of 12 and who earlier this season took 7-86 against Brighton & Hove and overall 19 wickets @ 31. Best individual bowling performing of the season.
Nick Smith is a seamer from Eastergate who has taken 17 wicket @ 23 including 5-15 against Cambridgeshire.
EPP
I have selected 15 players with the potential to become an Academy players within the next 1-3 years nine of whom are girls.
Beadle (B) based on 2014 form as she has missed all of 2015 through illness
Botting
Bourne
Clark
Harman
Hobbs
Lenham
McCaughan
Orr
Rattle
Robinson
Streets
Twine
Wadey
Young
I would offer Garton and Salt Junior Pro contracts and release Cammish.
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Post by jonboy on Aug 30, 2015 12:20:05 GMT
Were any of our academy lads selected for the SuperFours tournament in Loughborough?
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Post by coverpoint on Aug 30, 2015 12:58:54 GMT
Were any of our academy lads selected for the SuperFours tournament in Loughborough? Haines, Jenner and Rawlins. |
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