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Oct 8, 2014 21:26:49 GMT
Post by Wicked Cricket on Oct 8, 2014 21:26:49 GMT
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Oct 9, 2014 8:06:02 GMT
Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2014 8:06:02 GMT
What on earth are the ECB playing at? Their privileged legal due dilligence non-dossier against Pietersen says: "Upon arrival in Adelaide for the Second Test, AF [Andy Flower] gave express instructions to players not to stay out late and not to give the scandal-voracious press any ammunition, which KP immediately disobeyed by taking out two young players drinking with him until late (an incident which was front page news in the Adelaide press the following day)." I've now this morning seen the Adelaide press coverage of this criminal act - and one of the "young players" whom KP led astray was Stuart Broad!!! A tweet from Shane Warne sums it all up I think: <Just saw this ECB document. Wow, are the players 2 year olds ? Actually giggling at this kindergarten stuff  ? >. Michael Vuaghan on reading it simply tweeted this : <Never laughed so much. England are 4-0 down In the Ashes and it's because of @piersmorgan tweets.> Away from the giggles of Warne and Vaughan (and just about everyone else in cricket), there's one very serious accusation that emerges from Pietersen's book that I have barely seen mentioned anywhere: Pietersen warned Flower in Australia that he believed Trott was close to the end of his tether. Flower appears to have ignored the warning. My guess - and that is all it is - is that the Trott situation may have more to do with why Flower is no longer in charge of the England team than we realise. His mishandling of Trott's personal crisis - a situation that could conceivably have ended with fatal consequences - may simply have made his position untenable. Is KP's tome the first book to cover last winter's Ashes? Because my bookshelves are groaning under the weight of half a dozen books on every other Ashes series, invariably rushed out within weeks of the series ending. Yet it seems that the series which, for good or bad, has possibly the most interesting hidden story behind it in decades, is the least written about. |
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Post by mrsdoyle on Oct 9, 2014 9:19:41 GMT
I can understand why Pietersen might have broken down during a conversation with Flower over the Parody Twitter account. Flower comes over as a cold fish and if KP went to him for help over this and received none he might have felt in a very lonely place just then. I never read the tweets, I don't do Twitter, but maybe the best way for KP to have dealt with it would have been to have adopted the name KPGenius himself, people can't laugh at you so much if you laugh with them.
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Oct 9, 2014 9:33:44 GMT
Post by flashblade on Oct 9, 2014 9:33:44 GMT
I can understand why Pietersen might have broken down during a conversation with Flower over the Parody Twitter account. Flower comes over as a cold fish and if KP went to him for help over this and received none he might have felt in a very lonely place just then. I never read the tweets, I don't do Twitter, but maybe the best way for KP to have dealt with it would have been to have adopted the name KPGenius himself, people can't laugh at you so much if you laugh with them. wise words, MrsD. |
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Oct 9, 2014 9:52:00 GMT
For me, the nub of this whole sorry affair is the KP parody Twitter account. It was this more than anything else which sent
Pietersen into an emotional free-fall and which lead to the texting claims plus everything else that came after it.
For someone as vain as KP, the parody account must have felt like the ultimate team treachery. His loyalty to
England was severely tarnished and his sense of being let down by the England management team for doing
little or nothing about it was complete.
Stewart says Broad, Swann and Bresnan had the Twitter password. They deny they used this password to access the
account and write on it. Only Richard 'Badger' Bailey knows the truth. Surely, this needs to be cleared up, once and for
all. Are the three 'Muskabusers' lying? Or was it all the work of Bailey?
Personally, I would inject Bailey with a truth serum and find out. He is responsible for starting this whole sorry mess.
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KP
Oct 9, 2014 10:12:17 GMT
Post by jonfilby on Oct 9, 2014 10:12:17 GMT
Is KP's tome the first book to cover last winter's Ashes? Because my bookshelves are groaning under the weight of half a dozen books on every other Ashes series, invariably rushed out within weeks of the series ending. Yet it seems that the series which, for good or bad, has possibly the most interesting hidden story behind it in decades, is the least written about. Gideon Haigh has published a book called Ashes to Ashes which is about both the series in England in 2013 and the meltdown trip of 2013-14. Its a cracker. |
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KP
Oct 9, 2014 10:20:22 GMT
Post by Wicked Cricket on Oct 9, 2014 10:20:22 GMT
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Post by hhsussex on Oct 9, 2014 10:52:00 GMT
Good recommendation Jon and a fine link, thank you, s and f. I shall place that in front of Mrs HHS with an off-handed mention of "Christmas is coming, perhaps a stocking-filler for someone?", and with a bit of luck and a couple of bottles of Tanqueray I might just get it.  |
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KP
Oct 9, 2014 11:39:36 GMT
Post by Wicked Cricket on Oct 9, 2014 11:39:36 GMT
As some light relief from the KP dramas, how about this for a refreshing interview in a world driven by fear and political correctness. John Humphrys interviews Johnny Rotten who calls Humphrys 'a silly sausage'. www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-29540999 |
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Post by mrsdoyle on Oct 9, 2014 13:30:32 GMT
Something else occurred to me as I was washing the floors lol. A key part of the dodgy dossier on KP is the allegation he threatened to use his knee as an excuse to quit if England lost the third test, well, if memory serves we did lose the third test, KP played on, and a certain Swann found his elbow injury was too bad to continue and quit.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2014 14:21:30 GMT
Guardian poll showing 56 per cent want Pietersen to return to the England team.
Probably the sort of people whose opinions don't count as they are what Giles Clarke would describe as "outside cricket" (by which he seems to mean everyone who actually pays to watch Test cricket rather than those who are paid to be there as administratiors/players/journalists).
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KP
Oct 9, 2014 14:51:50 GMT
Post by Wicked Cricket on Oct 9, 2014 14:51:50 GMT
I am surprised that figure is not higher. One remembers the SKY poll just after Pietersen was sacked
and it was nearer 80%.
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Oct 9, 2014 14:59:12 GMT
Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2014 14:59:12 GMT
I am surprised that figure is not higher. One remembers the SKY poll just after Pietersen was sacked and it was nearer 80%. I suspect some of those who voted no did so because they know for it to happen would require the sacking of Clarke/Downton/Moores and Cook and a ruinous Boycott/Yorkshire style revolution. I voted no for that reason, although I would actually love to see Pietersen answer his critics by winning the Ashes back for England next summer. |
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Oct 9, 2014 15:01:12 GMT
Post by grandavefan on Oct 9, 2014 15:01:12 GMT
Anyone think his T20 form (and IPL & CPL) good enough to attract the selectors attention?
Did Luke Wright score more runs than him? Did he get selected for England?
Answer to both, NO?
What's happened is handbags in real life. These are children bickering.
Time moves forward, life changes, sports people have a limited shelf life. Perhaps Pietersen has reached his?
If he's so popular, according to the Guardian, which county will sign him up next year?
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Oct 9, 2014 15:05:51 GMT
Post by maxh on Oct 9, 2014 15:05:51 GMT
Tim Bresnan @timbresnan · 6h 6 hours ago
Disappointed to be implicated in the #kpgenius account. I 100% did NOT have any password. And wasn't involved In any posting.
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