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Post by joe on May 3, 2016 18:30:29 GMT
It would be nice if Sussex could win just one session before this match is over. Comisserations to those who are there today because from the radio commentary it sounds as if Sussex have been utterly abject again this morning. A few nice words from Lizzie about Garton's yorker ("he seems to be able to bowl one an over", she gushed admiringly); but otherwise I don't think I heard a single positive word about Sussex from the commentators all morning... Things can only get better. Can't they? Ceertainly can't get any worse than the bowling stats of Sussex's famous five this season to date (including the uni game!) Magoffin 5 @ 38 Garton 8 @ 43 Shahzad 6 @ 56 Robinson 5 @ 58 Briggs 5 @ 64 (championship only is even worse = 3 @ 93). The rich legacy just keeps on giving, eh? I have to give some plaudits to Garton, a young lad who would have thought at the beginning of the season that he'd be playing in the 2's, has stepped up quite admirably, and although far from the finished article, looks threatening and hungry and can work some magic at times with the old ball. More please!
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Post by mrsdoyle on May 3, 2016 19:06:09 GMT
So much Sussex taking this division by storm. I don't want to worry anyone but from memory for the past two seasons we started well then rapidly deteriorated!
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2016 19:14:50 GMT
Regardless of the result in this game we have to drop Briggs and bring in Finch. Briggs four an over and no wicket, Wells three runs an over and two wicket. No more excuses regarding Briggs and his continued lack of wickets. Brown at 6 and Robinson 7 is one and two positions respectively too high. Last month I had a series of private messages from Jon Filby headed 'Briggs' in which he claimed: " I expect us to outscore most teams we play against with our top class top six and developing all rounders Jordan, Robinson, Garton and Shahzad. I expect Briggs to bowl as beautifully as he did yesterday to stifle comfortably the strongest batting line up we will play against all season and enable our fab 4 fast bowlers ( perm any 4 from 7) to put terror into the hearts of any team brave enough to play us on a pitch with pace and bounce." Briggs , I was told, was the final gift in "Robbo's rich legacy" for which we should be eternally grateful and he had been signed to be an ever-present member of a five man attack after the four seamers. On April 16 I replied: "If Sussex insist on playing Briggs in unsuitable conditions early season, after the first four matches he's going to end up with half a dozen wickets at 70 runs apiece, and he will be damned as the new Dockrell/Burgoyne. That's really not what the poor lad wants or needs at the start of his Sussex career." Well three of those first four CC games have gone and he currently has three CC wickets at 102 runs apiece. I'd like to think Filby will be man enough to come on here and say 'sorry, you had a point'. But I'm not holding my breath.
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Post by philh on May 3, 2016 19:39:34 GMT
So much Sussex taking this division by storm. I don't want to worry anyone but from memory for the past two seasons we started well then rapidly deteriorated! Ah, but the plan this year is to start badly and finish well. So far so good with the plan, you might say.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2016 19:52:59 GMT
So much Sussex taking this division by storm. I don't want to worry anyone but from memory for the past two seasons we started well then rapidly deteriorated! Ah, but the plan this year is to start badly and finish well. So far so good with the plan, you might say. The problem with that is that the longer this disastrous run goes on - after this game it will be one win in the last 14 CC games - the more difficult it becomes to break the non-winning habit. Just ask our current opponents, who went three years without a win before they managed to turn it aropund. If they can overcome Sussex tomorrow Leics will record their fourth win in their last 14 CC matches. Success leads to more success. And failure, as Sussex are discovering, usually breeds yet further failure. Sussex needs to learn how Leics made the radical changes required at every level throughout the club to turn their fortunes around. At the moment, the 'Robbo's rich legacy/business as usual/jobs for the old boys' approach is dooming Sussex to further failure ad infinitum.
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Post by philh on May 4, 2016 9:06:51 GMT
Well, what will it be 96 overs of stout resilience or, once one wicket goes down, a procession commences?
At the risk of stating the obvious, I desperately hope Nash and Joyce come back together for lunch. Otherwise, I think we will struggle.
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Post by philh on May 4, 2016 9:07:29 GMT
Well, what will it be 96 overs of stout resilience or, once one wicket goes down, a procession commences?
At the risk of stating the obvious, I desperately hope Nash and Joyce come back together for lunch. Otherwise, I think we will struggle.
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Post by joe on May 4, 2016 10:53:58 GMT
You can say that again! Joyce back in the shed, 9 to go.
Better news from the 2's as Finch gets another ton. Knocking hard on the door now.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2016 16:22:40 GMT
Well done Chris Nash. Six and a half hours at the crease and an atypical dour innings.
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Post by hhsussex on May 4, 2016 17:00:49 GMT
All praise to Nash, above anyone else for saving this match. Since giving up the vice-captaincy and working on his batting during the winter he has run into a fine vein of form allied to a considerable toughness, whilst still showing plenty of the handsome shots and flair for opportunity of old. Last year's experiment of batting him at 4 or 5 should now be completely disregarded, and for as long as Joyce remains with Sussex they are the natural opening pair.
That just leaves the question of the middle order and while the return of Wright is impatiently awaited there are still some questions about who should join him there. Certainly this match has shown without doubt that there must be 6 batsmen higher than Ben Brown and he clearly needs time to breathe and to find his batting of the last couple of years. Machan's dash seems unabated, but if it doesn't come off immediately he is always giving a chance to the opposition to add a further quick wicket within minutes of breaking the first wicket partnership. Taylor's figures make very odd reading for a man with 13 Test hundreds and a first-class average in the middle 40s. In the 18 months since November 2014 he has now played 18 first class matches, 12 of them Tests, and scored 1088 runs at 38.86. That does include his huge innings of 290 against Australia last autumn, but in all that time he has only scored 1 further 100 and 3 50s, including today's innings. There are quite a few 20s and 30s in that sequence, and some single figure scores as well. I hope that we haven't signed a player on the downside of his career.
Otherwise, and assuming Wells keeps his place now as an all-rounder, there must be a slot for Finch or Hudson-Prentice - and Finch has the prior claim - to show what they can do to add solidity, and once Wright is back there should be a competition for top 6 batting places. As for the bowling it looks as if Wells has shot ahead of Briggs and also done as much as anyone could expect Beer to do. Garton, Magoffin and Shahzad all had their moments yesterday and Robinson will come again. It isn't a sharp-toothed attack but with a few runs to bowl at it ought to deliver as often as not. Not a promotion chasing side, but maybe one that realises the urgent need to rebuild and remake itself – on and off the field.
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Post by mrsdoyle on May 4, 2016 17:22:24 GMT
Don't want to be picky but we are scoring runs in the wrong innings, 4 batting points from 3 matches leaves us 2 above plumb bottom.
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Post by Wicked Cricket on May 4, 2016 17:31:08 GMT
Delighted that Sussex gained the draw. They got stuck in and managed to dig themselves out of their abject hole of the first innings. Nash has been a revelation since returning from the Gary Kirsten Academy in South Africa. Pity this hasn't rubbed off on his Academy partner Ben Brown. Could this be the turning point for the Club? Losing against Leicestershire at home would have been dire and shot their already vulnerable mental state to shreds. Hopefully, the side can gain confidence from this draw and build on the metal shown today. Amusingly, Dave Fulton of SKY Sports News appeared in the Media Centre today due to the Leicester theme the TV channel are presently running with. Winners of the Premiership, the snooker and, hopefully for them, against Sussex today. Coach Andrew McDonald being touted as the ginger variant of Claudio Ranieri. A mobile call from Fulton's SKY editor and the question, "Will Leicestershire beat Sussex?" with the rather bleated reply, "Looks, like it's heading for a draw," ended with a no show on the late afternoon news slot. Thank God for that.
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Post by Wicked Cricket on May 4, 2016 17:52:43 GMT
Sussex presently lie 7th in Division 2 after 3 matches. A drop of 13 County places since the end of the 2014 season. Much for Wright and Davis to ruminate about until the next club Championship game away to Derbyshire on Sunday. Once more the batting is letting the side down with just 4 points accrued - the lowest total of all the 18 counties. Murray Goodwin has a tough job to turn things around before he returns to Australia at the end of July. Question: Why isn't he staying for the whole season? The club desperately need him. www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/county-championship-division-two/table
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Post by jonboy on May 4, 2016 19:24:43 GMT
All praise to Nash, above anyone else for saving this match. Since giving up the vice-captaincy and working on his batting during the winter he has run into a fine vein of form allied to a considerable toughness, whilst still showing plenty of the handsome shots and flair for opportunity of old. Last year's experiment of batting him at 4 or 5 should now be completely disregarded, and for as long as Joyce remains with Sussex they are the natural opening pair. That just leaves the question of the middle order and while the return of Wright is impatiently awaited there are still some questions about who should join him there. Certainly this match has shown without doubt that there must be 6 batsmen higher than Ben Brown and he clearly needs time to breathe and to find his batting of the last couple of years. Machan's dash seems unabated, but if it doesn't come off immediately he is always giving a chance to the opposition to add a further quick wicket within minutes of breaking the first wicket partnership. Taylor's figures make very odd reading for a man with 13 Test hundreds and a first-class average in the middle 40s. In the 18 months since November 2014 he has now played 18 first class matches, 12 of them Tests, and scored 1088 runs at 38.86. That does include his huge innings of 290 against Australia last autumn, but in all that time he has only scored 1 further 100 and 3 50s, including today's innings. There are quite a few 20s and 30s in that sequence, and some single figure scores as well. I hope that we haven't signed a player on the downside of his career. Otherwise, and assuming Wells keeps his place now as an all-rounder, there must be a slot for Finch or Hudson-Prentice - and Finch has the prior claim - to show what they can do to add solidity, and once Wright is back there should be a competition for top 6 batting places. As for the bowling it looks as if Wells has shot ahead of Briggs and also done as much as anyone could expect Beer to do. Garton, Magoffin and Shahzad all had their moments yesterday and Robinson will come again. It isn't a sharp-toothed attack but with a few runs to bowl at it ought to deliver as often as not. Not a promotion chasing side, but maybe one that realises the urgent need to rebuild and remake itself – on and off the field. Pretty much agree with all of this. Taylor, although undoubtably a quality player, is not really what needed. An overseas all rounder should have been the priority, and hopefully this will be remedied in the second half of the season. Only when we balance the side, can we become serious promotion challengers
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Post by hhsussex on May 4, 2016 19:30:27 GMT
Sussex presently lie 7th in Division 2 after 3 matches. A drop of 13 County places since the end of the 2014 season. Much for Wright and Davis to ruminate about until the next club Championship game away to Derbyshire on Sunday. Once more the batting is letting the side down with just 4 points accrued - the lowest total of all the 18 counties. Murray Goodwin has a tough job to turn things around before he returns to Australia at the end of July.
Question: Why isn't he staying for the whole season? The club desperately need him. www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/county-championship-division-two/tableAccording to the members' magazine "Hove and Away"....'Goodwin, who will return to his home near Perth, Australia at the end of June because of business commitments...' Is Goodwin here till the end of June or the end of July?
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