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Post by joe on Oct 10, 2017 10:52:08 GMT
Beer has signed a new one year contract. Where did you get that info from? Nothing on the Sussex website.
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Post by joe on Oct 10, 2017 14:02:56 GMT
Beer is 29, a one year contract is neither here nor there, usually players get a one year contract at the beginning or end of their careers. Doesn’t show much confidence in the player does it?
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Post by jonboy on Oct 10, 2017 14:25:12 GMT
Beer is 29, a one year contract is neither here nor there, usually players get a one year contract at the beginning or end of their careers. Doesn’t show much confidence in the player does it? Know what you mean Joe, but personally I'd be happy enough if he signs up for another year On the face of it, last year was another nothing one for Beer, although in his limited appearances (Arundel) he did pretty well Not sure whether it says more about the decline of Briggs, or some marginal improvement from Beer, but for me, there isn't much between them
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Post by hhsussex on Oct 17, 2017 7:52:22 GMT
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Post by jonboy on Oct 17, 2017 9:05:18 GMT
Happy with this, and it almost certainly rules out the recruitment of an overseas spinner, I'd have thought
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Post by hhsussex on Oct 17, 2017 9:22:17 GMT
Happy with this, and it almost certainly rules out the recruitment of an overseas spinner, I'd have thought It almost certainly rules out any real ambition or vision. Yes, Beer had great figures at Arundel, although the strength of the opposition and their readiness to collapse must detract a little from this, but he has now been a professional with Sussex for 10 years, given many opportunities in white-ball cricket at least and his star has waned in that format. He hasn't shown the obvious signs of dissatisfaction with his lot: going off to another county for a fresh start. His supporters will say that he has never had an extended run in the side and that may indicate that neither of his coaches feel that he is going to perform at the highest level. So why eke out another year? This looks like yet another of these embarrassingly inept "Sussex family" appointments; not having the determination to say to him that he doesn't meet the needs of the club, but neither being prepared to use him extensively. For the avoidance of any doubt I am not suggesting that Briggs is the saviour; far from it, his contract seems to be another wasted opportunity and a brake on Sussex ambitions. All the time that they haver over whether to play Briggs becuse the wickets don't "suit" him they miss the opportunity to find a spinner that could be trusted, could deliver something - control if not destruction - on any wicket. And in turn that leads to unbalanced team selections, cramming the side with rightarm pacebowling allrounders, detracting from the batting strength. If the rumours are true and Davis is on the way out, save for some details of contractual payoff, then this reappointment must have been made on the strong recommendation of someone other than Davis. Who could that be? Who would rather muddle through with his old alumni from Academy days and avoid difficult decisions?
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Post by jonboy on Oct 17, 2017 10:21:11 GMT
Hmm, I can only surmise that there are more pressing issues, and a limited budget We definitely need at least one, quality top order batsman. I wouldn't say Beer's star is on the wane There may have been a slight drop off in his one day form, but that just mirrors the clubs recent poor one day record If we can use the existing budget to finally bring in a replacement for Joyce, and perhaps a strike partner for Archer, then I think Briggs and Beer are adequate for now
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Post by coverpoint on Oct 17, 2017 11:23:48 GMT
Hmm, I can only surmise that there are more pressing issues, and a limited budget We definitely need at least one, quality top order batsman. I wouldn't say Beer's star is on the wane There may have been a slight drop off in his one day form, but that just mirrors the clubs recent poor one day record If we can use the existing budget to finally bring in a replacement for Joyce, and perhaps a strike partner for Archer, then I think Briggs and Beer are adequate for now Van Zyl replaced Joyce.
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Post by coverpoint on Oct 17, 2017 11:24:21 GMT
Hmm, I can only surmise that there are more pressing issues, and a limited budget We definitely need at least one, quality top order batsman. I wouldn't say Beer's star is on the wane There may have been a slight drop off in his one day form, but that just mirrors the clubs recent poor one day record If we can use the existing budget to finally bring in a replacement for Joyce, and perhaps a strike partner for Archer, then I think Briggs and Beer are adequate for now What strike bowler worth his salt is going to sign for a side languishing in division 2?
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Post by jonboy on Oct 17, 2017 12:11:03 GMT
Hmm, I can only surmise that there are more pressing issues, and a limited budget We definitely need at least one, quality top order batsman. I wouldn't say Beer's star is on the wane There may have been a slight drop off in his one day form, but that just mirrors the clubs recent poor one day record If we can use the existing budget to finally bring in a replacement for Joyce, and perhaps a strike partner for Archer, then I think Briggs and Beer are adequate for now Van Zyl replaced Joyce. No, no, he was the replacement for Goodwin
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Post by joe on Oct 17, 2017 12:43:26 GMT
Happy with this, and it almost certainly rules out the recruitment of an overseas spinner, I'd have thought It almost certainly rules out any real ambition or vision. Yes, Beer had great figures at Arundel, although the strength of the opposition and their readiness to collapse must detract a little from this, but he has now been a professional with Sussex for 10 years, given many opportunities in white-ball cricket at least and his star has waned in that format. He hasn't shown the obvious signs of dissatisfaction with his lot: going off to another county for a fresh start. His supporters will say that he has never had an extended run in the side and that may indicate that neither of his coaches feel that he is going to perform at the highest level. So why eke out another year? This looks like yet another of these embarrassingly inept "Sussex family" appointments; not having the determination to say to him that he doesn't meet the needs of the club, but neither being prepared to use him extensively. For the avoidance of any doubt I am not suggesting that Briggs is the saviour; far from it, his contract seems to be another wasted opportunity and a brake on Sussex ambitions. All the time that they haver over whether to play Briggs becuse the wickets don't "suit" him they miss the opportunity to find a spinner that could be trusted, could deliver something - control if not destruction - on any wicket. And in turn that leads to unbalanced team selections, cramming the side with rightarm pacebowling allrounders, detracting from the batting strength. If the rumours are true and Davis is on the way out, save for some details of contractual payoff, then this reappointment must have been made on the strong recommendation of someone other than Davis. Who could that be? Who would rather muddle through with his old alumni from Academy days and avoid difficult decisions? Spot on, you’ve just written exactly what I was thinking. Not sure if your last question was rhetorical but the obvious answer is of course Kieth Greenfield.
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Oct 17, 2017 15:17:38 GMT
It's a 'sad sad situation' as Elton John might sing about Will Beer. www.youtube.com/watch?v=YL42GI-X5WAPerhaps, a professional sportsman with about as much ambition as a wet tea bag on a hot day. Cricinfo sums this up: In 2009 he impressed for England Under-19s against New Zealand, taking 10 wickets at 17.10. In the same year it was his performance on Twenty20 finals day, though, that grabbed attention as he blended wrist-spinning ability with guts to help Sussex take the title. Beer was part of ECB's spin-bowling programme and was mentored by the late Terry Jenner. He spent the 2011 winter at Darren Lehmann's cricket academy in Adelaide but his progress was slow and Sussex, it seemed, would have to show considerable patience if he was to have a chance of making an impression in the first-class game. I like Will Beer. I have interviewed him several times. But after chatting you ask yourself the question, 'Where's it gone wrong Will? Where is that desire to live up to your potential?' Eight years after all the T20 accolades, he is now captain of the Sussex 2nd XI and is more a batsman than a spinner. If Sussex had been kind, they would have let Beer go some years ago and forced him to find another club. To achieve that Will would need to change his mentality but at 29 years-old now, this seems a bit late. Whoever the new Head Coach is, Beer may find a new lease of life under him? One hopes so.
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Post by flashblade on Nov 6, 2018 12:24:02 GMT
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Nov 6, 2018 15:04:37 GMT
Loyal to the end. Will may even gain the Sussex CCC Club buildings contract for decoration and painting, after he retires!
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Post by flashblade on Jul 13, 2019 8:39:46 GMT
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