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Post by coverpoint on Sept 19, 2016 16:45:45 GMT
My XI would be: Nash, Haines, Wells, Hudson-Prentice, Salt, Brown (wk, c), Jordan, Archer Robinson, Rawlins, Magoffin
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2016 18:51:49 GMT
In defence of those of us who optimisticaly tipped Sussex for promotion back in April, if you had told us that Luke Wright would contribute 213 runs to the championship campaign, Machan 249 and Finch just 175, then I think we would have happily settled for sixth place!
Cachopa's 195 runs in 13 maches across the three competitions was sadly more predictable...
Serious question. When a batsmen like Cachopa is in the middle of such an appalling run of form and has just got a pair as he did in the last match, who is it who takes him into the net and works on technque and confidence with him? Mark Davis? Jon Lewis? The ghost of Ranji? I've absolutely no idea...
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Post by joe on Sept 19, 2016 19:03:10 GMT
In defence of those of us who optimisticaly tipped Sussex for promotion back in April, if you had told us that Luke Wright would contribute 213 runs to the championship campaign, Machan 249 and Finch just 175, then I think we would have happily settled for sixth place! Cachopa's 195 runs in 13 maches across the three competitions was sadly more predictable... Serious question. When a batsmen like Cachopa is in the middle of such an appalling run of form and has just got a pair as he did in the last match, who is it who takes him into the net and works on technque and confidence with him? Mark Davis? Jon Lewis? The ghost of Ranji? I've absolutely no idea... I would suggest that when a batsman has had 2 years worth of an appalling run of form, no one can help him.
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Post by flashblade on Sept 19, 2016 20:38:28 GMT
In defence of those of us who optimisticaly tipped Sussex for promotion back in April, if you had told us that Luke Wright would contribute 213 runs to the championship campaign, Machan 249 and Finch just 175, then I think we would have happily settled for sixth place! Cachopa's 195 runs in 13 maches across the three competitions was sadly more predictable... Serious question. When a batsmen like Cachopa is in the middle of such an appalling run of form and has just got a pair as he did in the last match, who is it who takes him into the net and works on technque and confidence with him? Mark Davis? Jon Lewis? The ghost of Ranji? I've absolutely no idea... I would suggest that when a batsman has had 2 years worth of an appalling run of form, no one can help him. Form is temporary?? Surely someone could help him? Is he getting the right help?
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Post by howardh on Sept 19, 2016 21:51:19 GMT
Of course not. We keep turning away offers of FREE help from the best two men in the country.
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Post by joe on Sept 20, 2016 10:34:43 GMT
Sakande and Rawlings miss out.
At one point there was doubt over Brown who has/had an illness and Cachopa was called up from Hove but he is now playing although he's already had a drink taken out to him.
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Post by hhsussex on Sept 20, 2016 10:44:11 GMT
Sakande and Rawlings miss out.At one point there was doubt over Brown who has/had an illness and Cachopa was called up from Hove but he is now playing although he's already had a drink taken out to him. Pity not to have played them at this stage of the season. They ought to know that Sussex has faith in them for the future and it might have been worth giving them both a bowl, especially in these damp conditions. 6 out of these last 8 fixtures have been Toss awards to the visiting side, and it could be 7 if Canterbury ever dries out.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2016 11:53:44 GMT
This pink ball stuff is nonsense. What can they possibly learn from playing in September with all the dew/mist etc? As I recall the last match played at Kent was heartily disliked by the players. As to the poor spectators silly enough to sit around at 8 o,clock .... Nothing. But there is determination to try it out in a Test in the next year or two and they want to be able to say "yes, we have trialled it in county cricket and none of the players were killed because they couldn't see the ball", or something of the kind. When they do it in a Test they will market a big dinner hospitality package and make even more money with even less of the actual contest being watched. The explanation for no pink ball trial in this round of matches offered on cricinfo is that both Bristol and Leicester had issues with their local authorities because playing a four day game at night would exceed the alloted number of days per season on which they have permission to use floodlights (which both clubs knew all along, so not sure why those two grounds were ever suggested as trial venues in the first place - someone didn't do their homework). cricinfo claims that the ECB then asked the clubs to trial the pink ball at Bristol and/or Grace Road in normal daylight conditions. It appears that in both cases the players sensibly vetoed this idea (and you have to assume they would have vetoed the day/night option, too, if the floodlight issue had not already scuppered that idea). As a result I'd say it is now certain the proposed night-day test v West Indies at Edgbaston next season will be played with a red ball in normal hours. They cannot have a day-night pink ball Test when there has only ever been one first-class match in English cricket played under such conditions (and that was way back in 2011 and was judged by players and spectators alike to be a colossal failure). We have had a narrow escape, is seems!
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Sept 20, 2016 15:36:31 GMT
It is so frustrating to see, time and time again this season, that when Sussex get their opponents against the ropes eg. today, they had Glos 7-97, they then allow them to fight back - Glos now 7-201.
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Post by flashblade on Sept 20, 2016 16:01:30 GMT
It is so frustrating to see, time and time again this season, that when Sussex get their opponents against the ropes eg. today, they had Glos 7-97, they then allow them to fight back - Glos now 7-201.You've gone all Aussie, S&F - surely 97-7 and 201 - 7 !!
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Sept 20, 2016 20:11:08 GMT
I've gone all Cricinfo Live Commentary!
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Post by hhsussex on Sept 22, 2016 7:00:31 GMT
The Sussex season's life is drawing peacefully towards its close and all that is left is between Sussex and Worcestershire either to gain additional bonus points or to force a result against their opponents and finish third behind Kent and Essex. Sussex have 45 overs to gain a theoretical 4 batting points, Worcester could get 3 bowling points from Derbyshire and that would set both sides level before the draw points are awarded. Both Bristol and Worcester should have dry days today, though low cloud will probably curtail the play. Of the two you would have to say that Worcester, equipped with Miguel Cummins, are more likely to get the win than Sussex, but it is good to see that Salt seems to have played with plenty of determination yesterday and restrained his normal attacking inclinations to avoid yet another middle order collapse. Perhaps that is a good sign for him and for Sussex.
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Post by jonboy on Sept 22, 2016 7:26:49 GMT
The Sussex season's life is drawing peacefully towards its close and all that is left is between Sussex and Worcestershire either to gain additional bonus points or to force a result against their opponents and finish third behind Kent and Essex. Sussex have 45 overs to gain a theoretical 4 batting points, Worcester could get 3 bowling points from Derbyshire and that would set both sides level before the draw points are awarded. Both Bristol and Worcester should have dry days today, though low cloud will probably curtail the play. Of the two you would have to say that Worcester, equipped with Miguel Cummins, are more likely to get the win than Sussex, but it is good to see that Salt seems to have played with plenty of determination yesterday and restrained his normal attacking inclinations to avoid yet another middle order collapse. Perhaps that is a good sign for him and for Sussex. Yes, it's fair to say that the performances of Salt and FHP in this game, are probably as important as the points, with both out of contract this year.
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Post by joe on Sept 22, 2016 8:07:19 GMT
Salt is a naturally attacking batsman more suited to white ball cricket. Listening to the commentary yesterday he did have a few wild swings across the line but thankfully is still there at the close which is good for Sussex. The only reason he's in the side is because there's no one else but I think he's shown enough promise in the one day and T20 games to be kept on.
Fynn Hudson-Prentice and Cachopa will be lucky if their services are required further than the end of the season.
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Post by hhsussex on Sept 22, 2016 8:59:03 GMT
Salt is a naturally attacking batsman more suited to white ball cricket. Listening to the commentary yesterday he did have a few wild swings across the line but thankfully is still there at the close which is good for Sussex. The only reason he's in the side is because there's no one else but I think he's shown enough promise in the one day and T20 games to be kept on. Fynn Hudson-Prentice and Cachopa will be lucky if their services are required further than the end of the season. My initial thoughts too, on seeing him against the Pakistanis earlier. But I understand he is going to South Africa along with Finch and one other to get coaching from Gary Kirsten, and we've seen how much that did for Chris Nash this season. If only Sussex hadn't been so stupid and wasted their money on the old pal's act for Goodwin we might have seen some of these younger players - and slightly older ones, like Machan - making more of an advance this year. Anyway, that is a lesson that deserves to be learnt and let's hope that Davis will stand up against the Sussex contra mundum loyalists and argue that he deserves a proper, full-time batting coach if he is going to be able to build a new team.
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