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Post by hhsussex on Sept 22, 2016 11:01:29 GMT
Good to see Brown past 50 and Sussex heading for at least one more bonus point. Ben Brown has now scored over 900 first class runs this year, after a shaky championship start, and despite some erratic wicket-keeping he has held up very well to the unexpected challenges thrust on him by Wright's absence. It is one thing to take on a new role as vice-captain, another to have to captain throughout most of the season, and quite exceptional to have to be, with Nash, the mainstay of the side's batting through the last quarter of the season. I think he has had a very effective season and has shown real responsibility.
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Sept 22, 2016 12:10:45 GMT
Hhs,
I think he has had a very effective season and has shown real responsibility.
Hear hear! I've been really impressed by Brown since he's taken on the Captaincy for the
second time this season. His batting has improved markedly. It seems being in charge suits him.
Perhaps, he should Captain the Championship side next season and Luke Wright the white-ball formats?
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Post by hhsussex on Sept 22, 2016 12:39:12 GMT
Hhs, I think he has had a very effective season and has shown real responsibility.Hear hear! I've been really impressed by Brown since he's taken on the Captaincy for the second time this season. His batting has improved markedly. It seems being in charge suits him. Perhaps, he should Captain the Championship side next season and Luke Wright the white-ball formats? I think I'd like to see a fit Luke Wright taking charge of the team before considering any changes. Brown has shown that he can rise above the challenges but it did take him a while. Next year there will have to be a new opener, probably a new middle order batsman and somebody who can both spin and control the ball. Otherwise there is the nucleus of a very decent side there in both formats. |
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Post by joe on Sept 22, 2016 13:44:01 GMT
Brown gets his 3rd 100 of the season and the second against Gloucestershire. I agree he's been solid in the middle and partnering the tail. He'd be my player of the season with Archer as young player of the season.
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Post by hhsussex on Sept 22, 2016 14:17:23 GMT
At the end of the innings Brown has 980 fc runs for the season and Wells 955. Not likely either will get the 1000 with Glos 206 behind - if they get to 280 or so they will probably save the match.
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Post by jonboy on Sept 22, 2016 18:17:24 GMT
Top stuff from Ben Brown today, and it's not the first time he's managed the tail, guiding us to a possible winning position. Perhaps, just perhaps, he's shown that he can bat at six, and that we may not need an all rounder. Although one would of course be favourable, a genuine all rounder would probably be extremely difficult to find and we may have to rely on Ben and the ever improving batting skills of our bowlers. Of course, Stevens would be a decent fit, but if he doesn't wish to play championship cricket, then we might have to find another way in red ball cricket. Most of the bowlers are capable batsmen, but it's a big ask for any of them to bat as high as seven in the order. It would need a rock solid top order, for us to be confident enough to play five bowlers. Finding a couple of batsmen who will strengthen our top five will be a huge task, more so when you consider we already had a top five of Nash, Joyce, Wells, Taylor and Wright.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2016 19:11:56 GMT
It's weird that Sussex has played its best red ball cricket of the season in recent matches without Joyce and Wright.
And I slightly disagree with jonboy that it's a big ask for any of the bowlers to bat as high as seven. Bresnan batted at five today for Yorks and was absolutely brilliant. Give Ollie Robinson and/or Jordan more responsibility at six or seven and I suspect they would rise to the ocassion.
Talking of Bresnan, for those who refuse to line Murdoch's pockets by subscribing to Sky Sports paying channels, I think the last day of Midx v Yorks is free to view tomorrow on the new Sky Sports Mix channel (#407, I believe).
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Post by hhsussex on Sept 22, 2016 21:22:18 GMT
Top stuff from Ben Brown today, and it's not the first time he's managed the tail, guiding us to a possible winning position. Perhaps, just perhaps, he's shown that he can bat at six, and that we may not need an all rounder. Although one would of course be favourable, a genuine all rounder would probably be extremely difficult to find and we may have to rely on Ben and the ever improving batting skills of our bowlers. Of course, Stevens would be a decent fit, but if he doesn't wish to play championship cricket, then we might have to find another way in red ball cricket. Most of the bowlers are capable batsmen, but it's a big ask for any of them to bat as high as seven in the order. It would need a rock solid top order, for us to be confident enough to play five bowlers. Finding a couple of batsmen who will strengthen our top five will be a huge task, more so when you consider we already had a top five of Nash, Joyce, Wells, Taylor and Wright. Quite so, except that the current leader in the Sussex championship averages is Jordan with 323 runs at 64.60, and except that Robinson's figures of 389 runs at 38.90 are better than those of Machan, Wright and Finch, and except that Archer's 8 innings for 195 at 24.37 compares well with the combined figures of Salt, Cachopa and Hudson-Prentice (15 innings for 198 runs, average 13.20). In fact there is no reason why Sussex should look for an all-rounder because we have some very good ones, and if Jordan does fall out of favour with England and Robinson can get back to full fitness and bowl with the verve of last year, and if Archer continues to develop we will have three outstanding players available. |
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Post by hhsussex on Sept 22, 2016 21:26:06 GMT
It's weird that Sussex has played its best red ball cricket of the season in recent matches without Joyce and Wright. And I slightly disagree with jonboy that it's a big ask for any of the bowlers to bat as high as seven. Bresnan batted at five today for Yorks and was absolutely brilliant. Give Ollie Robinson and/or Jordan more responsibility at six or seven and I suspect they would rise to the ocassion. Talking of Bresnan, for those who refuse to line Murdoch's pockets by subscribing to Sky Sports paying channels, I think the last day of Midx v Yorks is free to view tomorrow on the new Sky Sports Mix channel (#407, I believe). Thank you borderman, I will take that as one for me - if I get back from the allotment in time.  |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2016 7:10:56 GMT
Better still it is free at Lords today for over-65s and under-16s and just a fiver for everyone in between... a crowd of 5,000 is anticipated and I shall be one of them, hoping to make up for an absolute crap day there last Saturday for the worst one day finals I have ever seen!
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Post by hhsussex on Sept 23, 2016 8:01:01 GMT
Better still it is free at Lords today for over-65s and under-16s and just a fiver for everyone in between... a crowd of 5,000 is anticipated and I shall be one of them, hoping to make up for an absolute crap day there last Saturday for the worst one day finals I have ever seen! As somebody or other said recently, give me a reason why anybody should travel two hours to a big city to watch a team that doesn't contain your own county players.  #puerile#stuffandnonsense#harrumph! |
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Sept 23, 2016 15:24:29 GMT
A draw and Sussex end up 4th in Division 2 or 13th overall as Worcestershire's game is either going to be a win for them or if a draw,
their 12 points will place them 3rd due to 5 wins rather than Sussex's 4.
So, the 2016 Sussex CCC season reads
Championship: 13th
T20: 13th
RLC: 18th
Make of this disappointment and hugely mediocre season as you will. Best to forget about it; focus on the talented youngsters; and pray that 2017 offers us a far more successful year. Either that or tear up your Membership card.
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PS: Delighted for Middlesex. Worthy winners of Division 1. TRJ gets a hatrick - a local lad who came through the club's Junior Academy. And so pleased for Angus Fraser who has worked tirelessly behind the scenes. Yorkshire did not deserve another trophy. Although, sympathy for Somerset who had a flyer at the end and almost won by a nose.
PPS: Worcestershire won their match.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2016 19:11:35 GMT
Better still it is free at Lords today for over-65s and under-16s and just a fiver for everyone in between... a crowd of 5,000 is anticipated and I shall be one of them, hoping to make up for an absolute crap day there last Saturday for the worst one day finals I have ever seen! As somebody or other said recently, give me a reason why anybody should travel two hours to a big city to watch a team that doesn't contain your own county players. #puerile#stuffandnonsense#harrumph! An enjoyable day out but one deep in irony, as you suggest. Fans banging on all day about it being 'proper' cricket not like the awful looming nightmare of franchises (#stuffandnonsense#harrumph) - and then wetting themselves with excitement over non-bowlers serving up lobs and Yorkshire batsmen heaving across the line like it was a T20 (in a run chase which the Middx suppoerters all reckoned was too generous). I have some sympathy with Somerset if they feel tonight that 64 days of hard-fought championshp cricket should not have come down to such a farcical (if exciting) ending. There's no denying the drama of it all, though. I was glad that man of the moment Toby Roland-Jones then went out of his way to express his support for the new eight team T20 tournament: “I am a huge fan of county cricket and I think it is in good shape. The administrators are working hard to improve it, and I think they should be given time. I certainly don’t think what they are doing is trying to sideline county cricket in any way.” |
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Post by flashblade on Sept 23, 2016 19:37:21 GMT
As somebody or other said recently, give me a reason why anybody should travel two hours to a big city to watch a team that doesn't contain your own county players. #puerile#stuffandnonsense#harrumph! An enjoyable day out but one deep in irony, as you suggest. Fans banging on all day about it being 'proper' cricket not like the awful looming nightmare of franchises (#stuffandnonsense#harrumph) - and then wetting themselves with excitement over non-bowlers serving up lobs and Yorkshire batsmen heaving across the line like it was a T20 (in a run chase which the Middx suppoerters all reckoned was too generous).
I have some sympathy with Somerset if they feel tonight that 64 days of hard-fought championshp cricket should not have come down to such a farcical (if exciting) ending.There's no denying the drama of it all, though. I was glad that man of the moment Toby Roland-Jones then went out of his way to express his support for the new eight team T20 tournament: “I am a huge fan of county cricket and I think it is in good shape. The administrators are working hard to improve it, and I think they should be given time. I certainly don’t think what they are doing is trying to sideline county cricket in any way.” This artificial joke bowling always leaves me feeling very queasy; it's just one team openly and brazenly agreeing to deliberately underperform in order to distort the progress of the match. Is it: a) match fixing? or b) conduct bringing the game into disrepute? or c) both of the above? Is there any other professional sport that would dare to condone this type of behaviour? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2016 20:17:26 GMT
The only vague equivalent I can come up with is David Beckham deliberately getting himself a yellow card as England captain against Wales in that World Cup qualifier because he had a rib injury and knew he would miss the next game, so he wanted all his cautions from the qualifying campaign wiped from the slate by serving a one-match ban in a game he was going to miss anyway.
And I've now thought of another one. Wasn't there a Chinese team - was it in hockey? - that deliberately lost a group stage match in order to finish second rather than first because they reckoned the runners-up had an easier tie than the winners in the knock-out stage ?
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#puerile#stuffandnonsense#harrumph!