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Post by coverpoint on Jul 24, 2014 19:22:14 GMT
Very good win by Sussex made all the more impressive by the fact that their best bowler Steve Magoffin didn't even take a wicket. Changes may need to be made for the next game with Machan and Jackson off the back of big hundreds, Beer and Hobden off the back of four second innings wickets surely coming into the reckoning to replace the potentially departed Tredwell, England bound Jordan and Piolet who must be in the team to drive the airplane.
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Post by hhsussex on Jul 24, 2014 20:22:12 GMT
Very good win by Sussex made all the more impressive by the fact that their best bowler Steve Magoffin didn't even take a wicket. Changes may need to be made for the next game with Machan and Jackson off the back of big hundreds, Beer and Hobden off the back of four second innings wickets surely coming into the reckoning to replace the potentially departed Tredwell, England bound Jordan and Piolet who must be in the team to drive the airplane. Unfortunately big hundreds on an old flat Hove wicket against a Middlesex IIs team doesn't really impress a lot. Machan had a good run earlier and seemed to have lost some fluency. I'm sure he'll come back soon, but I'm less convinced about Jackson. Would you suggest he should replace Nash or Wells? They're both appallingly inconsistent but one or other of them usually makes a 50 in one innings or another. Beer for Tredwell? Not exactly like for like and I would worry for Beer if he is expected to bowl 40 or 50 mean overs at Scarbrough to keep one end closed while the seamers rotate. Hobden is a natural; unless he falls prey to injury or plays with theories about his action I'm sure he will be a big star and a stalwart of our pace attack. He'll leak runs now - all the more reason for some containing bowlers around him - but will gradually get more economical with greater experience, without sacrificing pace and swerve. |
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Post by coverpoint on Jul 24, 2014 20:32:44 GMT
Jackson won't replace Nash or Wells. People ask our young batsmen to get big runs in the seconds two batsmen deliver in the same game and people still say it is not enough. I don't see many of the first team making big hundreds. As for the spinner unless Kent allow us to keep Tredwell for a third month we will have to make a choice between Beer and Zaidi. Kent may go with two spinners. With the greatest of respect Zaidi isn't the answer. Of the seamers playing at Hove Hobden looked a class above the rest.
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Post by hhsussex on Jul 24, 2014 20:44:22 GMT
Jackson won't replace Nash or Wells. People ask our young batsmen to get big runs in the seconds two batsmen deliver in the same game and people still say it is not enough. I don't see many of the first team making big hundreds. As for the spinner unless Kent allow us to keep Tredwell for a third month we will have to make a choice between Beer and Zaidi. Kent may go with two spinners. With the greatest of respect Zaidi isn't the answer. Of the seamers playing at Hove Hobden looked a class above the rest. Yes, I do understand your frustration but Zaidi was sold to us, in part, on the basis of making 191 for the seconds. So who should make way for Jackson? Next year he will probably have to fight it out with Brown as wicketkeeper-batsman or pure batsman. No Zaidi isn't the answer as a spinner, sadly, because he's an engaging character, but that doesn't really cut it. Neither does Beer's years of service waiting in the wings, bowling flatter to get under the ball in one-day cricket. I'm afraid we have to really go for broke to get Tredwell for a third month, and more, because we need someone of that calibre and there aren't any more around. |
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Post by coverpoint on Jul 24, 2014 20:46:43 GMT
I'm afraid we have to really go for broke to get Tredwell for a third month, and more, because we need someone of that calibre and there aren't any more around. And if you can't get Tredwell...... Hobden, Jackson and Machan have certainy thrown their names into the ring for Scarborough. |
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Post by howardh on Jul 25, 2014 7:10:40 GMT
This is plain daft. Essentially you are comparing a Middlesex 2nd XI bowling attack, with Barker and 4 chaps with international experience.
Nope, doesn't cut it for me.
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Post by jonboy on Jul 25, 2014 7:23:04 GMT
A Middlesex attack that had, just Sandhu, offering any first team experience, I might add
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2014 7:54:47 GMT
A flat slow unresponsive wicket at Hove I'm told. Makes a difference, easy runs look good, no wickets looks poor. No contest.
Horsham, pacy, bounce and turn. Good runs, good wickets. Fair contest.
Now which would you want to play on?
Forget Middx, how about the groundsman preparing a wickets like Horsham? Why can't it be done? Horsham is just an outground, not a proper ground. You don't get proper wickets at these places.
Who'd swop Hove for Horsham in the Sussex dressing room?
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Jul 25, 2014 8:48:47 GMT
Huge plaudits must go to Hove groundsman Andy Mackay for the Horsham wicket. From all accounts he worked
really hard alongside his counterpart to produce a pitch which was one of the best I've seen this season. The
criticism of the Arundel wicket stung him into action. It gave interest to the seamers with the new ball and then
20 or 30 overs later gave the batsmen a chance to score although offering the spinners opportunities to pick up
wickets too. A fair, balanced and honest pitch which are rare to find these days.
So, why not Hove?
My understanding, and it may be wrong, is that during the noughties, the pitch was set up for Mushy. After
the spinner retired, Robinson looked to seam as the main Sussex attack and so Mackay had to then change, re-lay
etc.. to help the fast bowlers. Perhaps, the square is still in 'the middle' of that change-over?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2014 10:08:10 GMT
Yeah! Yeah!
Horsham has always been good. he's not turned it round from poor to very good! You're falling for the spin S & F. Robbo getting what he's reaped?
He's always blamed the wickets, never his selection! Robbo master of shifting the blame? I like Robbo but he has his faults.
I'm sure Eastbourne will be a test quality wicket for you next year S & F!
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Jul 25, 2014 10:34:16 GMT
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Post by flashblade on Jul 25, 2014 10:46:04 GMT
Zac appears to be making encouraging noises to Eastbourne. In the days when we played at the Saffrons, IIRC we also played at Horsham and Arundel. Whether the club would be interested in using 3 outgrounds again is an interesting question.
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Post by jonboy on Jul 25, 2014 10:51:01 GMT
Zac appears to be making encouraging noises to Eastbourne. In the days when we played at the Saffrons, IIRC we also played at Horsham and Arundel. Whether the club would be interested in using 3 outgrounds again is an interesting question. Why not, if they can make the sums add up. We know all three games would be better supported, in terms of numbers, at the outgrounds It also stimulates interest around the county |
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Post by jonboy on Jul 25, 2014 13:52:10 GMT
I went to Hastings to watch second eleven games back in the day Whereabouts in Brighton did we play?
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Post by coverpoint on Jul 26, 2014 9:30:47 GMT
Do we really need Horsham and Arundel given the close proximity to one another? Horsham pays its way and creates exciting cricket that produces results Arundel does neither.
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