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Post by hhsussex on May 30, 2017 13:34:37 GMT
Which Sussex team is going to come out for this game? The one that is limping along just ahead of Leics, Derbys and the stricken Durham, already with no hope of promotion, lacking in self-belief and prone to being bullied? Or the confident, swaggering side that made a nonsense of earlier form and even overcame some late first-innings resistance from Durham, and went from 41-2 to 600+?
Worcestershire are, as usual, challenging for a promotion place without quite suggesting that if it is achieved they will be strong enough to consolidate in the first division. They are a little more lacking in batting strength than usual, only Mitchell and Kohler-Cadmore having made more than one 50 this year, but the seam bowling looks impressively strong, captain Leach having taken 26 wickets at 16 each: very much Magoffin-esque.
If Magoffin and Brown are both fit to return, a possible team might be:
Nash Wells Van Zyl Brown Wright (C) Burgess (WK) Wiese Archer Philander Magoffin Briggs
Finch to be rested - not blamed - and to get his form and confidence back in nets and seconds so that he can take a rightful batting place later in the summer. Jordan to have a diplomatic injury to cover the fact that with the wealth of seam bowling we have no one is safe, Briggs to stay because he is a valuable minor player and offers some alternative to right arm over the wicket ad infinitum.
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Post by joe on May 30, 2017 14:27:34 GMT
Yes, like that team hh.
I might go one step further and add Evans if he's fit, rest Wright and give Brown the captaincy.
........ stands back and waits for onslaught!
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Post by flashblade on May 30, 2017 14:31:16 GMT
Yes, like that team hh. I might go one step further and add Evans if he's fit, rest Wright and give Brown the captaincy. ........ stands back and waits for onslaught! I quite like that, joe.
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Post by jonboy on May 30, 2017 14:40:10 GMT
Not sure what Evans has done to warrant a recall, even if he is fit He has the worst championship stats of everyone
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Post by joe on May 30, 2017 15:59:05 GMT
Not sure what Evans has done to warrant a recall, even if he is fit He has the worst championship stats of everyone An average of 33 and a top score of 213 isn't too shabby plus he's already shown what he can do this season and is in better form than Wright.
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Post by jonboy on May 30, 2017 16:11:32 GMT
Not sure what Evans has done to warrant a recall, even if he is fit He has the worst championship stats of everyone An average of 33 and a top score of 213 isn't too shabby plus he's already shown what he can do this season and is in better form than Wright. Actually he isn't, his championship scores this season are 0,2,9 and 0 That's averaging under 3
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Post by wishibowledfaster on May 30, 2017 20:54:46 GMT
I like the idea of mixing it up HH, taking Finch out of the firing line, and also making some senior players step up. Brown through no fault of his own hasn't been a proper influence on the team yet, and keeping Burgess could allow Brown to show some desperately needed leadership, let him work his way into form with the bat, whilst also showing that good performances by younger players are rewarded by retaining your place and that no-one is undroppable. I think as much as anything, the selection of the 11 needs to send a message. Loyalty is one thing, but there are repercussions for lack of performance. Jordan has been woeful in all but a few glimpses, and this selection will show what the coaching staff are about as much as anything. Are they going to allow the big names to coast along, take the easy choice and keep meandering along this path of mediocrity, or will they ruffle some feathers, put down a marker, and say to players step up or goodbye? Because there's a decent strain of young players waiting for their chance, and they're hungry.
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Post by coverpoint on May 31, 2017 17:55:34 GMT
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Post by hhsussex on May 31, 2017 19:14:33 GMT
That sounds very messy indeed. Feelings must run deep, especially between Steve Rhodes and his senior players, for such a step to be taken. I can't recall anything like this in recent years; in fact it is the sort of thing that used to characterise Yorkshire, with their autocratic sense of entitlement over their own players many years ago.
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Post by magik on Jun 1, 2017 10:17:46 GMT
I'd quite like to see...
Nash Wells Van Zyl Brown Finch Burgess (WK) Wiese Archer Philander Briggs Magoffin
...although admitted it does leave quite a long 'lower order' from Wiese @ 7 and I'm not sure Sussex are brave enough to drop Jordan!
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Post by hhsussex on Jun 1, 2017 13:49:29 GMT
After Wright's resignation Nash takes over as captain, Brown still injured, and this is the squad:
Jofra Archer Danny Briggs Michael Burgess (wkt) Harry Finch Chris Jordan Steve Magoffin Chris Nash (c) Vernon Philander Stiaan van Zyl Luke Wells David Wiese Luke Wright
Thus, the fascinating question: who to leave out? We are told that Magoffin has "returned to the frame", presumably meaning he is fully fit, so one of Finch, Wright or Briggs will drop out. If Briggs is left out we go in with 5 right arm seam bowlers, plus Nash and maybe Wells, who hasn't bowled yet this year, and yet another tight-arm seamer in Van Zyl. Plenty of bowling but not a lot of options. If Briggs plays to balance out the bowling then the batting is weaker, either because Finch is left out and Wiese goes up as high as No6, or one of Wiese/Jordan/Philander is omitted. Jordan would be the logical choice on form, but his prestige and renown are high, and it would be a bitter pill to swallow after all the many times we have fumed about his non-availability because of ECB or IPL commitments to have him available and not play him.
This is the culmination of Davis's policy of going for supposed all-rounders, players who are excellent at 7 or 8 or even 9, but whom you would never think of as batting 5 or 6. One or at most two would be ideal, preferably to include Ollie Robinson, who is apparently on the road to fitrness again, who can offer off-spin as well as medium pace. Jordan, Wiese and Philander, although different in their modes of bowling attack have just too much in common all to be taking up vital places in the team.
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Post by coverpoint on Jun 1, 2017 14:38:53 GMT
I would rest Jordan.
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Post by wishibowledfaster on Jun 1, 2017 15:11:25 GMT
It may not be a popular option, and whilst the performances overall have been lacking, the bowling has actually been sound. I would not pick Magoffin, make him go get good figures in the seconds. Batting and a more effective spinner is our issue, not the seam bowling. Jordan has been poor but I feel that you'd weaken the batting to a greater degree than you'd strengthen the bowling. The choice will be interesting but I think the biggest conundrum will come in a week or so when it seems Brown will return to fitness.
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Post by joe on Jun 1, 2017 17:55:36 GMT
Wright probably nailed on for a big 100 in this match now. I'd bring Magoffin in for Jordan, he's already had a stint in the 2's and got wickets, and dont forget his 5fer against Notts before he went lame.
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Post by hhsussex on Jun 2, 2017 10:05:32 GMT
Worcester take the option of bowling and Sussex drop Briggs, keep all the batsmen and 5 right arm over the wicket pace bowlers. Good luck.
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