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Post by joe on Jun 2, 2017 10:07:41 GMT
Worcester take the option of bowling and Sussex drop Briggs, keep all the batsmen and 5 right arm over the wicket pace bowlers. Good luck. As with England dropping Rashid yesterday, don't think this is a good move. |
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Post by wishibowledfaster on Jun 2, 2017 10:21:54 GMT
This ploy to have everyone do a bit of everything seems to result in a very unbalanced team each week. Seems the coaching staff lack the ruthlessness to cut a big name bowler to help the batting.
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Post by hhsussex on Jun 2, 2017 15:44:51 GMT
Wright probably nailed on for a big 100 in this match now. I'd bring Magoffin in for Jordan, he's already had a stint in the 2's and got wickets, and dont forget his 5fer against Notts before he went lame. He may yet do that, but while we wait for him Luke Wells again in magnificent form and Harry Finch too confounding all who said he couldn't open effectively. It is a confidence issue, and it looks as if they have it back. Meanwhile Van Zyl crawling on to accumulate more runs: he will probably score as many as Goodwin, but less eye-catchingly. |
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Post by liquidskin on Jun 2, 2017 17:20:23 GMT
That's very impressive. What a difference Wells has made. Maybe it's gonna be a season of continuous ups and downs but that's quite an improvement if that is the case.
I think Davis knows what he wants but he's screwing up getting it. This selection is a step in the right direction for me, Briggs isn't gonna get you wickets unless someone goes after him. It's right that we have our four best bowlers playing. If, for example, we had Shakib Al Hasan playing instead of Wiese, I think Davis would be clearer and more successful.
The batting has gone well today thanks to Wells, VZ and very pleased for Finch but it looks kinda fragile on paper. An opener is probably the way forward for Davis, with all our seaming options once Philander leaves, but we do have a spinner issue as well so we may get a bit of a two for one with Shakib.
It'll be very interesting to see what Davis does because he could lose the muddled thinking with one smart signing. Today's team, like many of our recent teams, is kinda blinkered and inconsistent. It's not a tough fix. He's close but then he gets muddled again.
P.S. Journeyman means a man of many clubs in cricket HH and I'll hear no more of it.
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Post by philh on Jun 2, 2017 20:34:30 GMT
I think you're right. liquidskin. The frailty of the batting doesn't mean it's all wrong but before today, at least, Finch looked a vulnerability, Wright had lost his mojo and Burgess looked wrong at 6 even though he's done well. Great batsmen fail sometimes but we do seem to lack one reliable batsman. Joyce is a big gap to fill. I've not compared Joyce last season v Finch but I suspect it explains a lot - not that I am pinning all the blame on Finch by any means. At other end of the batting order, plenty bat well relative to their position but you shouldn't be relying on nine, ten, jack in any way. And, that seems to be the story of this season so far, we either don't need the strength of the lower order or we need a ton from someone who bowls. In the 50 over thingy, it seemed to be ok generally but in 4 dayers we look frail which seems a strange thing to say looking at the close of play scoreboard. |
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Post by hhsussex on Jun 3, 2017 11:11:08 GMT
Wright halfway to the predicted release score and Burgess playing with nice timing and an eye for where the runs van be found. Wells played for something that wasnt there off Lyon's second ball
Didn't get the 5th bonus point but should be good for 500.
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Jun 3, 2017 17:33:06 GMT
Disappointing end to the day after a superb batting performance from Sussex. One hoped with a team seamer-loaded Sussex would
strike early but apart from Van Zyl missing a catch at short leg early on from D'Oliviera and various unfortunate moments including
a drop from Jordan, of all people, what looked like a Sussex cert win could now dribble towards a draw.
Tomorrow is another day though. The Sussex seamers just need some luck.
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Post by deepfineleg on Jun 3, 2017 19:18:19 GMT
Worcester take the option of bowling and Sussex drop Briggs, keep all the batsmen and 5 right arm over the wicket pace bowlers. Good luck. Mark Davis was asked about this at the members forum this morning. He said the wicket hadn't spun in the Durham game and he expected this wicket to become 'up and down' as the game progresses, so they went for the seam option with Nash and Van Zyl as variation. |
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Post by coverpoint on Jun 3, 2017 19:34:12 GMT
Can I have a bat? This must be the easiest wicket to bat on in Championship history! You wouldn't in ten days let alone four!
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Jun 3, 2017 20:13:40 GMT
dfl,
Is there any chance you can offer us a flavour of the Members Forum?
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Post by philh on Jun 4, 2017 11:44:08 GMT
One down at last, but it's hard to see anything other than a draw already.
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Post by hhsussex on Jun 4, 2017 13:26:15 GMT
A sudden sparking of interest as wickets begin to fall...can it be sustained?
On edit: two bowling bonus points now, and whatever else may happen, I hope we get the third.
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Jun 4, 2017 14:30:03 GMT
Bloody hell! Well done Sussex. Who would have thought it? Worcestershire's 10 wickets fell for 97 runs after the initial 215 opening stand.
Quite incredible and a huge pat on the back for Davis's decision to go with a 5 man seamer attack. Archer the hero of the afternoon.
Bad news about Magoffin's latest injury but are we surprised?
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Post by hhsussex on Jun 4, 2017 16:00:07 GMT
Bloody hell! Well done Sussex. Who would have thought it? Worcestershire's 10 wickets fell for 97 runs after the initial 215 opening stand. Quite incredible and a huge pat on the back for Davis's decision to go with a 5 man seamer attack. Archer the hero of the afternoon. Bad news about Magoffin's latest injury but are we surprised? Nonsense fluffy! The composition of the bowling was predicated on two things: getting Magoffin back into the team at the earliest opportunity, and not upsetting any of the other pace bowlers by asking them to make way. It was unbalanced and ineffective for nearly two whole sessions, then the remaining 4, plus part-timers Van Zyl and Nash finally broke through. In taking so long to do so they may have lost the opportunity to force victory if the wather is as bad tomorrow as feared. There are no guarantees that Briggs would have taken lots of wickets, but the variation and the change of style might have stopped Worcester from getting into the groove of scoring at a steady 3 an over for 70 overs or so. Now Magoffin has broken down and may not be back for a long time. That is a blow but it will just have to be borne. After all we have 3 international pace bowlers now plus Archer, who certainly will be one, and Garton, Whittingham and Sakande in reserve. We should be able to manage...and of course we do have spinners in Briggs, Rawlins and the perennial Beer. |
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Post by deepfineleg on Jun 4, 2017 16:50:35 GMT
dfl, Is there any chance you can offer us a flavour of the Members Forum? Here's a few notes from memory. Packed forum on Saturday. Bob Warren, Rob Andrew, Mark Davis & Keith Greenfield formed the panel. Rob in his introductory remarks referred to attacks on social media, but wasn't specific. Topics raised from the floor included: Philander will not be replaced as overseas when his contract ends - the only overseas signing is Ross Taylor for T20 (sorry jonboy). Captaincy - no decisions taken yet. Wells knee injury continues to prevent him bowling. A member called for use of 3rd Man - Davis agreed; (I noticed the position was employed later) How do ECB work out who play twice and who once - Sussex play twice v Kent & Notts and once v Derby, Northants & Glam. RA/BW are to meet with Michael Fordham (i.c. fixtures) soon. Rob sadi he is against promotion/relegation in cricket - leads to bottom Div 1 & top Div 2 clubs spending extra. Could Ollie Robinson play as batter only? Mark said he needed to be able to bowl as his batting is not enough on its own - winter shin op seems to have not been as effective as hoped. Michael Burgess remains a trialist. A questioner asked if Robson who is on trial also can play - only if he's offered a 2 year contract. Meeting went on past start of play although about 75% left when given the option at 1055. |
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