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Post by Wicked Cricket on Jun 25, 2019 20:14:02 GMT
Like the football, England can't hack the pressure.
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Bazpan
2nd XI player
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County club member: Kent
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Post by Bazpan on Jun 27, 2019 13:31:33 GMT
Anyone think Hales will be recalled for the India game on Sunday? I felt that Eoin Morgan might have been laying the groundwork for such a climbdown in an interview ten days ago. It seemed I was probably mistaken when England persisted with Vince, but they might now be at the point of accepting that if they want to get these games won they're going to have to jettison some values (which would be quite a spectacle in itself). This is going to be difficult for Morgan to pull off with a straight face after he went all-in with his headmasterly stuff about breach of trust and jeopardising the culture.
It seems to be generally accepted that Morgan pretty much gets the team he wants. Ahead of the World Cup squad selection Trevor Bayliss said “If it got down to a bit of a stalemate in discussions, in the four years that I’ve been here the captain gets a big say. He’s got to be the one comfortable with going out on the field with the other 10 players. The captain has a very big say."
And so it seems. Morgan doesn't rate Joe Denly. Ed Smith does. Denly didn't make the squad. Regarding David Willey's omission, Morgan commented that "it was a very tough decision and probably the hardest that I have ever been involved in." Of course you'd expect him to be involved, but he's acknowledging that he found the actual decision a tough one to make (as distinct from just agonising over what recommendations or arguments to make).
In that interview the Monday before last Morgan seemed to be dissociating himself from the selection process somewhat. "If Ed Smith, the national selector, came to myself and Trevor Bayliss, the coach, and said he felt that Alex was the best option, we would have to assess how that would sit in the changing room and the stigma it would bring with Alex coming back. Ultimately Ed gets the final call." It was particularly striking that Morgan felt compelled to emphasise Smith's and Bayliss's job titles. (Noted!) I suspect that Morgan would be delighted to have Hales back in the side as long as the impression can be created that it's 'against his better judgement'.
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Post by flashblade on Jun 29, 2019 18:03:37 GMT
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Post by coverpoint on Jun 29, 2019 18:53:00 GMT
WTF are New Zealand doing? They need to hit the remaining 3 overs of Maxwell/Smith/FInch/Stonis out of the park. Why is Taylor trying to hit Cummins rather than the donkey bowler at the other end? Stupid shot. De Grandhomme WTF was that? NZ should be hitting Smith out of the ground.
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Jul 2, 2019 8:32:04 GMT
A cruel but fair assessment. The two previous edgbaston pitches in the World Cup had been slow, slow, slow. No doubt, the ECB had wined and dined the ground staff, pleading for a fast but lifeless pitch with a short boundary on one side to take out the Indian spinners, and that is exactly what they got. Another lifeless fast track. No doubt the same request has been sent to the Durham ground staff. For if at home, it is very important to contrive the correct home conditions. EnglandMotto: "Flatophiles" England are deservedly the No. 1 ODI cricket team in the universe, in the sense that almost all planets in existence do not have living things, and England are amazing in conditions that are completely lifeless.
High point: Finally getting a pitch to their liking, at Edgbaston against India. Low point: Coming across any surface that has seam movement, spin, slowness, undue fastness, undue bounce, reverse swing potential, or slower-ball envenomation...
www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/27095095/andrew-fidel-fernando-satirical-look-back-cricket-june-2019
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Post by liquidskin on Jul 3, 2019 13:16:02 GMT
Well, England have made a real balls-up of this innings against the Kiwis today. At one point looking at 380/400, now struggling to get 300. This complacency could hit very hard. Great track, I think NZ will chase this down. England could be left hanging on Pakistan. Totally absent minded today and against SL, England. If they go out they'll deserve to for me.
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Post by joe on Jul 3, 2019 17:37:11 GMT
Well, England have made a real balls-up of this innings against the Kiwis today. At one point looking at 380/400, now struggling to get 300. This complacency could hit very hard. Great track, I think NZ will chase this down. England could be left hanging on Pakistan. Totally absent minded today and against SL, England. If they go out they'll deserve to for me. But not quite as much of a balls-up as NZ thankfully.
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Post by philh on Jul 3, 2019 18:00:12 GMT
Not the smoothest qualification for England, but we are in the semis. It looks like we will face India which will be tough but winnable. From what I’ve seen Oz will take some beating. I think they will tonk NZ if they meet them but Pakistan are a bit Jekyll and Hyde and could give them a run for their money. I think they are favourites though.
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Post by joe on Jul 3, 2019 18:10:54 GMT
Not likely Pakistan will qualify, they’ll need to beat Bangladesh by over 300 runs.
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Jul 3, 2019 22:13:15 GMT
England play in the second of the semi-finals on Thursday, July 11th. No doubt the ECB continue to wine and dine the Edgbaston ground staff as they did before the India game, so expect a flat-track with the ball quickly coming on to the bat alongside a short boundary on one side to counteract the spinners... again.
It would be a little bizarre if we play India once more at Edgbaston less than 2 weeks after the previous game, but this is looking very likely. If so Kohli will, no doubt, have an irritated say leading up to the contest about the pitch and the short boundary, but sorry Virat, England have home conditions and can ask the ground staff to deliver a pitch to their liking.
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Post by coverpoint on Jul 5, 2019 9:17:45 GMT
Pakistan need to win by at least 316 runs against Bangladesh to qualify.
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Post by philh on Jul 6, 2019 8:38:52 GMT
I feel a bit sorry for Pakistan for ending below NZ. They had the easier of the two games rained off that involved Pakistan and NZ. Pakistan’s game against Sri Lanka was called off and NZ missed India. If either game had been played and gone in Pakistan ‘s favour, they would have qualified. I’ll never understand why there can’t be a second day when needed.
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Post by gmdf on Jul 6, 2019 9:22:07 GMT
I feel a bit sorry for Pakistan for ending below NZ. They had the easier of the two games rained off that involved Pakistan and NZ. Pakistan’s game against Sri Lanka was called off and NZ missed India. If either game had been played and gone in Pakistan ‘s favour, they would have qualified. I’ll never understand why there can’t be a second day when needed. You can have a 2nd day, but given that the WC started on 30th May and we haven't yet finished the group games, how long do you want the WC to be?
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Post by joe on Jul 6, 2019 9:55:02 GMT
There are reserve days for the semis and the final.
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Post by flashblade on Jul 6, 2019 10:01:40 GMT
I feel a bit sorry for Pakistan for ending below NZ. They had the easier of the two games rained off that involved Pakistan and NZ. Pakistan’s game against Sri Lanka was called off and NZ missed India. If either game had been played and gone in Pakistan ‘s favour, they would have qualified. I’ll never understand why there can’t be a second day when needed. You can have a 2nd day, but given that the WC started on 30th May and we haven't yet finished the group games, how long do you want the WC to be? In theory, having reserve days wouldn't extend the length of the tournament, because the 2nd day needn't clash with any other fixture. Are there other issues to consider?
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