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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2014 19:15:08 GMT
I don't think any county will take a chance on a player who has been chucked out by two counties for unprofessional behaviour.
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Can we have a 1000 $ wager on that? Because I can guarantee you that his agent is already in talks with 3 or 4 counties.
But yeah, kick out all the immigrants taking our jobs and Britain can be great again. Good ridance to magoffin, cachopa, Jordan. British jobs for British workers.
Jeez, cp, I'm supposed to be on holiday and that is so depressing I don't ever want to come home!
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Post by coverpoint on Jul 31, 2014 19:28:53 GMT
What Shropshire, Dorset, Suffolk and Norfolk?
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Post by jonboy on Jul 31, 2014 19:54:03 GMT
I'd like to think we might be one of the counties offering him the chance With most of our quicks the wrong side of thirty, we really do need to get some younger blood. Only Hobden at 21 can be classed as a youngster. CP will tell you, there's unlikely to be any quicks graduating from the academy this year, so we will have to look outside.
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Post by coverpoint on Jul 31, 2014 20:03:40 GMT
Hudson-Prentice is a better option than Robinson. The reality is Robinson neither has the temprament nor the talent to succeed in first class cricket. He's like George Best but without the talent.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2014 20:25:10 GMT
You may be right. But you need to explain why a strong Yorks side made Robinson a regular member of their t20 side but a weak Sussex side hasnt blooded h-p. But I have never said Sussex should sign Ollie Robinson.all I said was those in the know rate him a serious talent and the game of cricket needs him more than it needs the sad suits,blazers and has-been track suits who administer the game so ineptly.
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Post by coverpoint on Jul 31, 2014 20:29:47 GMT
Gillespie is no sad suit, blazer and has been track suits who administer the game he is a top coach and even he did not think Robinson was worth the effort to try and keep. Would this be the same so called experts who said Moeen Ali was a part-time spinner? The other point that is worth making is that Gillespie isn't shy at giving youngsters a chance as he showed last season when he gave Matthew Fisher his debut at age 15. They are seeing the benefits of this with the emergence of several talented youngsters such as Rhodes, Tattersall, Fisher, Shaw and Carver. Robinson is quite the opposite and is always reluctant to give youngsters a chance relying on experience instead.
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Post by jonboy on Jul 31, 2014 21:40:33 GMT
Hudson-Prentice would seem the best of the bunch but has he done enough in his second eleven appearances to warrant a full contract? Don't get me wrong here, I think the guy has a future and at 18 his performances have been par for the course. A lot of promise, but not exactly turning in the sort of match winning performances that would fast track him onto the staff. An academy plus contract awaits I would think. Perhaps that's the problem, maybe we bring some youngsters onto the staff without their performances demanding it. Just a thought. Anyhow, Robinson has two years on Hudson-Prentice, and with only Hobden to represent the new generation of Sussex quick bowlers, it makes sense to look at the lad.
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Post by leedsgull on Aug 1, 2014 7:40:49 GMT
I think it is worth mentioning that Robinson is not a product of the much praised Yorkshire Academy. He only turned up when his stepfather Paul Farbrace moved from Kent to manage Yorkshire 2nd xi and brought him with him.
Incidentally Moin Ashraf missed yesterday's match v Sri Lanka A with yet another injury. He badly needs a change of club and luck and in my view would be an exciting signing for Sussex.
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Post by jonboy on Aug 1, 2014 7:52:15 GMT
Interesting Leedsgull, having I presume seen both play, which would you rank as the better prospect, Robinson or Ashraf? Obviously, Ashraf at 22 is a bit further down the line but this may be as far as he goes development wise. I think I'd like to take a punt on Robinson's more precocious all round skills, he reminds me a bit of a younger Luke Wright
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Post by hhsussex on Aug 1, 2014 8:53:26 GMT
As I haven't seen Robinson play, and hadn't heard of him before this thread, the passion aroused does seem to be remarkable. More so than his achievements so far: linkThat appears to suggest that in 2nd XI cricket he can bat a bit, but isn't regarded much as a bowler, whereas in T20 he turns his arm over often but rarely gets a chance to bat. On the other hand, Moin Ashraf, whom leedsgull has seen and rates highly, has quite a good record, before this season, and a lot of first-class experience in all disciplines as a bowler. www.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/player/407889.htmlInteresting that the cricinfo biog speaks well of his skill at bowling yorkers on cue.... |
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Post by jonboy on Aug 1, 2014 9:04:07 GMT
Sorted then, we'll just sign em both
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Post by leedsgull on Aug 1, 2014 14:20:49 GMT
Asraf is a genuine no 11 batsman and for someone with an athletic build rather a poor fielder. However two years ago he was bowling the "death" overs for Yorkshire in one day cricket with some skill as the county had a very good 20/20 campaign finishing runners up. Plunkett and Brooks then arrived and Ashraf has barely had a look in since. I really think he has a lot of talent. I never understood why Robinson was included in this seasons 20/20 team. He achieved little in a losing team. There were far better options in my opinion.
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Post by coverpoint on Aug 1, 2014 17:46:26 GMT
Leedsgull I think it maybe in Ashraf's best interests to move as the arrivals of Brooks and Plunkett certainly seem to have been limited. I personally think he would better served joining a second division county where he is more likely to get in.
Jonboy two things we shouldn't sign either as wasting money on several mediocre seamers is what got us in this mess in the first place and I would rather sign one person who could do the job properly and secondly to compare Oliver Robinson to Luke Wright is quite ridiculous given what the latter has achieved. As I have said before Robinson is like George Best but without the talent.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2014 18:53:41 GMT
Three times the George Best analogy. Reminds me of the picture of him in bed with Miss World and a bottle of champagne in his hand. The caption read 'Where did it all go wrong?' You missed out that he'd also been gambling in the casino and there were huge piles of bank notes strewn all over the bed. My favourite GB quote: "I spent 90% of my money on women, drink and fast cars. The rest I wasted." On the other hand there was the football coach at Ford Open Prison who said: "I don't care if he is George Best, unless he's willing to do hard training, he won't get a look in." You have it all there. Stoics v Epicureans. Roundheads v Cavaliers. It is "unprofessional" for pro-sportsmen and women to relax by smoking a spliff or drinking champagne, the proper use of which is to be sprayed over victorious team-mates. 'Professional' sportsmen who care about their performance stick to EPOs, human growth hormone, ephedrine, albuterol, beta-blockers and tamoxifen. |
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Post by leedsgull on Aug 14, 2014 9:56:06 GMT
Oliver Robinson is playing for Hampshire v Sri Lanka A today so perhaps that bird has flown.
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