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Post by jonboy on Apr 26, 2015 15:57:17 GMT
Surely this guy needs his own thread after his exploits today. I thought his performance the other day for the seconds was mightily impressive, but today was out of this world, especially given the circumstances
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Post by coverpoint on Apr 26, 2015 16:05:56 GMT
Surely this guy needs his own thread after his exploits today. I thought his performance the other day for the seconds was mightily impressive, but today was out of this world, especially given the circumstances This surely has count as one of the goatmouths of all time!
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Post by lovelyboy on Apr 26, 2015 16:16:18 GMT
Hudson-Prentice is a better option than Robinson. The reality is Robinson neither has the temprament nor the talent to succeed in first class cricket. He's like George Best but without the talent. Have you changed your mind on young Robinson yet CP?!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2015 16:16:38 GMT
Robinson doesn't have talent to back up his off-field antics and Sussex are better off without him. That is two counties (Yorkshire and Kent) he has been chucked out of. Whoops, cp! Glad to see I stuck up for him at the time of his sacking and, as Mark Robinson and Sussex also concluded, felt that he deserved a second chance. Fairytale stuff for the lad. Thank you Jason Gillespie for being such an authoritarian martinet and sacking him. (Wasn't Gillespie also in charge when Yorks "parted company" with Shahzad? If so, we have an awful lot to thank Jason for..) The other Robbo's reputation for these Lazarus-like career resurrections is fast reaching legendary proportions. In the second XI match last week that earned Ollie his promotion, he followed his century with a five wicket haul, so now looking forward to him bowling Durham out. 186 to avoid the follow on (not that we would enforce it, though!)
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Post by coverpoint on Apr 26, 2015 17:18:28 GMT
Robinson doesn't have talent to back up his off-field antics and Sussex are better off without him. That is two counties (Yorkshire and Kent) he has been chucked out of. Whoops, cp! Glad to see I stuck up for him at the time of his sacking and, as Mark Robinson and Sussex also concluded, felt that he deserved a second chance. Fairytale stuff for the lad. Thank you Jason Gillespie for being such an authoritarian martinet and sacking him. (Wasn't Gillespie also in charge when Yorks "parted company" with Shahzad? If so, we have an awful lot to thank Jason for..) The other Robbo's reputation for these Lazarus-like career resurrections is fast reaching legendary proportions. In the second XI match last week that earned Ollie his promotion, he followed his century with a five wicket haul, so now looking forward to him bowling Durham out. 186 to avoid the follow on (not that we would enforce it, though A century on debut doesn't guarantee success (Rayner and Gatting are two examples that spring immediately to mind). To be fair Yorkshire don't sack too many good players. However, he has done everything he could have done so far. The proof of the pudding will be how he performs over the rest of the season. As Mark Robinson himself said every dog has its day. This is certainly Robinson's day. With Shahzad Notts released him too so that's two coaches with very different coaching styles.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2015 17:31:25 GMT
And the young lad has followed up his century with the first two wickets. I first saw him for Kent seconds wen he was 17 and even at that young age he looked supremely talented.
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Post by coverpoint on Apr 26, 2015 17:43:59 GMT
And the young lad has followed up his century with the first two wickets. I first saw him for Kent seconds wen he was 17 and even at that young age he looked supremely talented. I too saw him in 2011 in the game I mentioned on another thread where he scored a hundred and took seven wickets. However, after that game he seemed to lose his way and this lead to him leaving Kent and signing for Yorkshire. He started promisingly things but was subsequently dismissed by Yorkshire as a result of a series of minor misdemeanors. That said Robbo has given him his chance and it is now up to him to make the most of it.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2015 17:49:47 GMT
He left Kent for Yorkshire because Farbrace, who had been coach at Kent, got the number two job at Yorks and so Ollie's mum - who at the time was Farbrace's partner (now wife, I believe) - moved to Leeds.
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Post by coverpoint on Apr 26, 2015 17:54:57 GMT
Hudson-Prentice is a better option than Robinson. The reality is Robinson neither has the temprament nor the talent to succeed in first class cricket. He's like George Best but without the talent. Have you changed your mind on young Robinson yet CP?! Let's judge them at the end of their career rather than after one game because after one innings Joe Gatting and Ollie Rayner had a better batting average than Donald Bradman. However, that wasn't the case for very long!
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Post by lovelyboy on Apr 26, 2015 17:57:35 GMT
Have you changed your mind on young Robinson yet CP?! Let's judge them at the end of their career rather than after one game because after one innings Joe Gatting and Ollie Rayner had a better batting average than Donald Bradman. However, that wasn't the case for very long! But you judged him before his career had even started!
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Post by coverpoint on Apr 26, 2015 17:59:16 GMT
Let's judge them at the end of their career rather than after one game because after one innings Joe Gatting and Ollie Rayner had a better batting average than Donald Bradman. However, that wasn't the case for very long! But you judged him before his career had even started! Fair point.
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Post by hhsussex on Apr 27, 2015 8:44:08 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2015 9:01:48 GMT
Yes, nice interview. He seems a smart and well-balanced young man as well as obviously being hugely talented. Thanks again to Yorks and Jason Gillespie for seeing it differently! In terms of Sussex, the lad potentially provides the 'balance' in the XI that Mark Robinson was recently talking about. Jordan and Shahzad are bowlers who can bat a bit. Robinson has the potential to be a genuine all-rounder. Sussex have long coveted a bowler who can bat in the top six (that was the aspiration when Zaidi signed, if you remember, and perhaps what it was hoped Piolet could become). Early days but if Ollie continues to progress he could conceivably end up batting at six with Ben Brown at seven. That then allows a fully balanced attack of four seamers and a specialist spinner - and if you have Jordan (depending on how his England career goes) and Shahzad at eight and nine, you have five front line bowlers without saddling the side with a long tail. All we need now is to find that specialist spinner (Tredwell on loan again?) and perhaps another opening batsman if Joyce is doing the job reluctantly and out of duty.
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Post by jonboy on Apr 27, 2015 9:13:57 GMT
Yes, nice interview. He seems a smart and well-balanced young man as well as obviously being hugely talented. Thanks again to Yorks and Jason Gillespie for seeing it differently! In terms of Sussex, the lad potentially provides the 'balance' in the XI that Mark Robinson was recently talking about. Jordan and Shahzad are bowlers who can bat a bit. Robinson has the potential to be a genuine all-rounder. Sussex have long coveted a bowler who can bat in the top six (that was the aspiration when Zaidi signed, if you remember, and perhaps what it was hoped Piolet could become). Early days but if Ollie continues to progress he could conceivably end up batting at six with Ben Brown at seven. That then allows a fully balanced attack of four seamers and a specialist spinner - and if you have Jordan (depending on how his England career goes) and Shahzad at eight and nine, you have five front line bowlers without saddling the side with a long tail. All we need now is to find that specialist spinner (Tredwell on loan again?) and perhaps another opening batsman if Joyce is doing the job reluctantly and out of duty. Yep, that's pretty much it. Let's not forget Hudson-Prentice as a potential candidate for that role as well. I was torn between a genuine all rounder, or a front line spinner, when considering who might fill our overseas slot when Mags qualifies. Still undecided, but the emergence of young Robinson gives us options.
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Post by flashblade on Apr 27, 2015 9:53:09 GMT
I think we should be careful not to place too much expectation on the young man's shoulders so soon. Yesterday's performance was breathtaking, but he might not be able to maintain that level of achievement!
Let's just take it easy before we re-structure the side around him.
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