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Post by Wicked Cricket on Oct 5, 2015 12:44:07 GMT
Closely reading the story, Mark Robinson makes an interesting comment.
“The biggest problem we are going to have is the budget. There was an increase in the playing budget last year after four years
in which it stood still but now it has gone back down again."
My understanding is, and perhaps it is wrong, the Club allowed Robinson more money last season, so he could secure the signings to
turn the Club into serious Championship Trophy contenders. One remembers at the 2014 'Players Awards' Ed Joyce stating they required
just a couple of new signings to give them that edge.
Those two signings were Tymal Mills and Ajmal Shahzad. Mills was the biggest gamble Robinson has ever made. It spectacularly
backfired; and Shahzad then gained several season-ending injuries after playing both white and red ball cricket. At Notts he only
played white. Was that for a reason?
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Post by hhsussex on Oct 5, 2015 13:01:41 GMT
The Captaincy silence is deafening. Mark Robinson tells the Argus Steve Hollis last week that a new Sussex captain has been appointed, so why hasn't this news hit the media channels? Meanwhile, Mark Robinson tells Steve in 'The Argus' today that "he is massively motivated" to continue on and "has signalled his intention to continue as Sussex coach". Reading between the lines this is a man under immense pressure to hold on to his job. This week could signify one of the most important decision-making periods for the Sussex CCC hierarchy in many a year. m.theargus.co.uk/sport/13802799.Robinson__massively_motivated__to_continue_as_Sussex_coach/This is a bizarre and unconvincing interview that reeks of safety-first and gives no comfort that there is a spirit of determination about getting out of the mire. Robinson said: “I’ve been here for ten years now and last season was my first poor year.
Apart from conveniently ignoring the last relegation season of 2009 , that does sound extremely defensive. 2014, when Sussex flirted with relegation for much of the season, then scrambled up to 3rd, whilst finishing 8th in the Royal London group and 7th in the T20 group was not exactly stellar/ In fact what we have seen since 2011 is a side gradually running out of steam as senior players leave and the flow of new talent dries up. There are exceptions, and some successful imports but the trend has been gradual and inevitable.
“We are always looking at how we go about things and the changes we can make. We have got to look at everything we do within the club to find ways we can improve. We did that a bit during last season so it is a case of making sure we see what we all can do better as individuals.
Perhaps the saddest part of this season's collapse into submission was the failure to innovate. Even before the injuries to the faster bowlers the tactics were defensive and batting appeared to be hard and not very enjoyable work. Finch had a couple of games when Wells started badly, but low in the order when he had been making second eleven runs early on. Later in the season came the bizarre series of loan imports - Dockrell, Linley and Thomas - and then in the last match the bizarre experiment with Jordan opening. Is Robinson suggesting there should be more of these gimmicks, that can then be blamed on the failure of "individuals" when they backfire? “ There was an increase in the playing budget last year after four years in which it stood still but now it has gone back down again.It is nothing to do with relegation but it means we are going to have to try to strengthen the squad in areas we feel we can with less money and CJ (Chris Jordan) coming off a central contract makes things more difficult.
Is this an admission that we wasted a lot of money paying expensive salaries to players who weren't fully fit to perform, or only in a very limited number of games, whilst other players underperformed? What is the strategy for the club now if there is no money to get in star players and we don't have faith in the Academy players coming through? Finally “We get great backing from the board who try to give us what we need whenever they can but we have to respect that the most important thing is that the club survives.”
Survives? What does he feel threatened by? Is this related to the remarks about salaries and is code for "we're running out of money and this year's financial results are going to be awful"? |
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Oct 5, 2015 13:34:38 GMT
Finally “We get great backing from the board who try to give us what we need whenever they can but we have to respect that
the most important thing is that the club survives.”
Survives? What does he feel threatened by?
Agreed, this is an odd comment to make.
Sussex received a £12m legacy which allowed them to redevelop their ground debt-free. Compared to most other counties, financially
the club are in a strong position. The problem being, after 10 years at the helm, the Robinson excuses of lack of budget money and
player injuries sound jaded. Perhaps, when he talks of "survives" he is referring to himself and not the club?
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Post by joe on Oct 5, 2015 13:43:09 GMT
The Captaincy silence is deafening. Mark Robinson tells the Argus Steve Hollis last week that a new Sussex captain has been appointed, so why hasn't this news hit the media channels? Meanwhile, Mark Robinson tells Steve in 'The Argus' today that "he is massively motivated" to continue on and "has signalled his intention to continue as Sussex coach". Reading between the lines this is a man under immense pressure to hold on to his job. This week could signify one of the most important decision-making periods for the Sussex CCC hierarchy in many a year. m.theargus.co.uk/sport/13802799.Robinson__massively_motivated__to_continue_as_Sussex_coach/This is a bizarre and unconvincing interview that reeks of safety-first and gives no comfort that there is a spirit of determination about getting out of the mire. Robinson said: “I’ve been here for ten years now and last season was my first poor year.
Apart from conveniently ignoring the last relegation season of 2009 , that does sound extremely defensive. 2014, when Sussex flirted with relegation for much of the season, then scrambled up to 3rd, whilst finishing 8th in the Royal London group and 7th in the T20 group was not exactly stellar/ In fact what we have seen since 2011 is a side gradually running out of steam as senior players leave and the flow of new talent dries up. There are exceptions, and some successful imports but the trend has been gradual and inevitable.
“We are always looking at how we go about things and the changes we can make. We have got to look at everything we do within the club to find ways we can improve. We did that a bit during last season so it is a case of making sure we see what we all can do better as individuals.
Perhaps the saddest part of this season's collapse into submission was the failure to innovate. Even before the injuries to the faster bowlers the tactics were defensive and batting appeared to be hard and not very enjoyable work. Finch had a couple of games when Wells started badly, but low in the order when he had been making second eleven runs early on. Later in the season came the bizarre series of loan imports - Dockrell, Linley and Thomas - and then in the last match the bizarre experiment with Jordan opening. Is Robinson suggesting there should be more of these gimmicks, that can then be blamed on the failure of "individuals" when they backfire? “ There was an increase in the playing budget last year after four years in which it stood still but now it has gone back down again.It is nothing to do with relegation but it means we are going to have to try to strengthen the squad in areas we feel we can with less money and CJ (Chris Jordan) coming off a central contract makes things more difficult.
Is this an admission that we wasted a lot of money paying expensive salaries to players who weren't fully fit to perform, or only in a very limited number of games, whilst other players underperformed? What is the strategy for the club now if there is no money to get in star players and we don't have faith in the Academy players coming through? Finally “We get great backing from the board who try to give us what we need whenever they can but we have to respect that the most important thing is that the club survives.”
Survives? What does he feel threatened by? Is this related to the remarks about salaries and is code for "we're running out of money and this year's financial results are going to be awful"? That is exactly what I was thinking but wasn't eloquent enough to pen. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2015 13:45:09 GMT
The unrealistic tone of defiance in Robinson's interview reminds one of Thatcher's comments after the first ballot in the Tory leadership election in 1990 when she failed to grasp that the party desired - and needed - change.
Whether Sussex has an inner cabinet of senior ministers prepared to tell Robinson this, I don't know.
Does the very public campaigning to keep his job at Hove mean that he has not applied for the Essex and England women's posts?
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Post by joe on Oct 5, 2015 14:04:11 GMT
What an absolute bore. Everything seems such an effort. No amount of spin will make the last 3/4 years look any better.
Wake up man, look lively, say something positive, inspirational and innovative, and say it with passion like you really mean it..........or go and let someone else do it.
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Post by coverpoint on Oct 5, 2015 18:39:59 GMT
If there was a trophy for the biggest whinger Robinson would win every year! The reality is that he is talking out of arse as per usual. The side has been in continual decline under him since 2009 and it's time for him to go now! Yes we might have Jordan back but we don't have Prior or Yardy and have released Liddle, Zaidi and Piolet. If money is so tight why haven't we released Anyon who has spent the last two years injured on the sidelines. His loan signings were an absolute disaster. The decision to open with Jordan was just plain daft and you can't be surprised if you sign injury prone bowlers like Mills and Shahzad when they get injured.
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Post by amatrice on Oct 5, 2015 19:03:34 GMT
Surrey sacked Ashley Wright from his S&C post in 2012 as part of the fallout from Tom Maynard's death. Surely that makes it less likely Luke would go there even if the management has largely changed.
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Post by fraudster on Oct 5, 2015 19:18:22 GMT
Much of that article grates on me, like all the cliche sayings about individuals and whatever, but nothing more than his second statement, which HH covers. Ultimately, on the whole, if during the last season we came up with ways to improve the club from within, and all this with the biggest spending budget we're likely to see, then Robbo should be dead in the water. The loan stuff and constant ignoring of Beer was the most baffling for me but it has a lot of competition, an unacceptable amount.
Like many though, I fear Robbo has the final say on his future, and he's said it. I sincerely hope our chiefs have some balls.
Stale, stagnant, negative, uninspiring and baffling. The words that best describe our leadership. And not just this season Robbo.
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Post by flashblade on Oct 5, 2015 19:30:31 GMT
"You have sat too long for any good you have been doing lately... Depart, I say; and let us have done with you. In the name of God, go!
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Oliver Cromwell's address to the Rump Parliament (20 April 1653).
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2015 20:14:26 GMT
Surrey sacked Ashley Wright from his S&C post in 2012 as part of the fallout from Tom Maynard's death. Surely that makes it less likely Luke would go there even if the management has largely changed. I'd forgotten all about Luke's big brother, who played a few games for Leics, I think. But now you mention it, I seem to recall that he was sacked as Surrey's strength and conditioning coasch by Chris Adams? Not sure that is going to be a significant factor in any considerations Luke may now be making about his future. I am also unaware that there was any direct connection between the removal of Wright major from his post and Maynard's death - unless it is being suggested that the S&C coach should have detected what the inquest found to be the player's "consistent use" of cocaine and MDMA ? But then Maynard's captain and flat mate also told the coroner that he was totally unaware of his chum's regular drug abuse. They were dark days for Surrey, that's for sure, although they did not deserve the indignity of Dobell's nauseating histrionics when Surrey lost the Lord's cup final to Glos last month. Did anybody else read it ? "The pain of those days will live with them forever. Many of those involved will never be the same. But they have found a way to live again. To progress." Real-life tragedy turned into a trailer for Eastenders. Ugh. |
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Post by amatrice on Oct 5, 2015 20:41:04 GMT
It's not what Ashley Wright did during his S&C job that was the issue - he was seemingly good. It's that he was part of RHB's social group that went out of an evening. For example, I think he was one of the guys who went out clubbing during the Horsham match when Maynard was injured two weeks before he died. He was considerably better placed than most people to at least know what was going on. Regardless of what he actually knew, S&C coaches are far easier to replace than players and he was an easy target to get rid of when they were trying to change the culture.
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Post by jonboy on Oct 5, 2015 22:07:17 GMT
So, it would seem the status quo has been maintained
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Post by oddsox on Oct 5, 2015 23:38:55 GMT
Surrey sacked Ashley Wright from his S&C post in 2012 as part of the fallout from Tom Maynard's death. Surely that makes it less likely Luke would go there even if the management has largely changed. I'd forgotten all about Luke's big brother, who played a few games for Leics, I think. But now you mention it, I seem to recall that he was sacked as Surrey's strength and conditioning coasch by Chris Adams? Not sure that is going to be a significant factor in any considerations Luke may now be making about his future. I am also unaware that there was any direct connection between the removal of Wright major from his post and Maynard's death - unless it is being suggested that the S&C coach should have detected what the inquest found to be the player's "consistent use" of cocaine and MDMA ? But then Maynard's captain and flat mate also told the coroner that he was totally unaware of his chum's regular drug abuse. They were dark days for Surrey, that's for sure, although they did not deserve the indignity of Dobell's nauseating histrionics when Surrey lost the Lord's cup final to Glos last month. Did anybody else read it ? "The pain of those days will live with them forever. Many of those involved will never be the same. But they have found a way to live again. To progress." Real-life tragedy turned into a trailer for Eastenders. Ugh. Not sure what happened regarding Ashley Wright but he and Adams still communicate on twitter. |
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Post by hhsussex on Oct 6, 2015 8:14:14 GMT
Really pleased to see the rumours proven wrong and that Luke Wright will be captain over all three formats next summer ( www.sussexcricket.co.uk/news-1/captaincy-luke-wright-appointed-new-sussex-skipper). A very nice, telling quote in the press release, too: "Mine and the coaches’ challenge is to get this club back to winning ways. This starts with not only trying to get back to Division One, but to create a culture that can challenge to win it. " |
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