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Post by jonboy on Sept 19, 2019 14:39:21 GMT
Claydon joins the club next season, who would fill a seam bowling slot, along with Robinson and Topley if he stays fit enough. Whether Gillespie thinks another bowler is needed I'm not sure. Jordan doesn't immediately spring to mind as a four day bowler. I would hope that Clayden is viewed as back up, somebody who can come in and do a job if needed |
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Post by joe on Sept 19, 2019 15:22:28 GMT
We have to give Garton a good run of CC games next season otherwise he’ll be the next one to seek pastures new. His contract is up at the end of 2020. It was unfortunate that he was injured as I think he would have played a lot this season and been another year along in his development.
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Post by jonboy on Sept 19, 2019 15:30:47 GMT
We have to give Garton a good run of CC games next season otherwise he’ll be the next one to seek pastures new. His contract is up at the end of 2020. It was unfortunate that he was injured as I think he would have played a lot this season and been another year along in his development. Yes, I don’t think that’s an issue, he would have played plenty, had he been fit We can’t expect Robbo to shoulder the burden next season, and it’s obvious the level of contribution from our existing bowlers, isn’t enough |
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Post by liquidskin on Sept 19, 2019 20:25:56 GMT
This is how I see us lining up at the beginning of next season. New batter (c) New batter van Zyl Wells/Haines/Finch Salt Rawlins Brown (wk) Wiese Robinson Garton Topley I think we should keep the blueprint of the side we've played in the last few games. I'm convinced the side we put out when we battered Glos, who are probably gonna go up, is the right one, with a little tweak or two. An OS in for Haines, who can join Finch in the twos and score big, and simply slipping Salt down the order. I think it's imperative that there's a change of captain though, if not coach. Burns Wells VZ Salt Rawlins Brown Wiese Beer Jordan Garton Robinson Plenty of experience surrounding the young expansive batters (who need to play free), bats all the way down and six bowling options. Six homies, three foreignies and two outsidies, everyone's a winner. |
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Post by liquidskin on Sept 20, 2019 13:02:56 GMT
Burns
Wells
Duckett
Salt
Rawlins
Brown
H-P
Beer
Jordan
Garton
Robinson
Sorry I meant three signings, I forgot about Brexit and the Kolpak culling.
Seven homies, three outsidies and one foreignie, as per rules, everyone's a winner.
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Post by foxy on Sept 25, 2019 10:08:59 GMT
Burns Wells Duckett Salt Rawlins Brown H-P Beer Jordan Garton Robinson Sorry I meant three signings, I forgot about Brexit and the Kolpak culling. Seven homies, three outsidies and one foreignie, as per rules, everyone's a winner. Will Travis Head open, where we really need experience and quality, or bat at 3 or 4? My starting 11 next year from current squad would be Wells Head Van Zyl Salt Rawlins Brown Weise Garton Beer Jordan Robinson Jordan is probably the most questionable and could be replaced by another youngster or Claydon as part of a rotation of the seamerss |
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Post by sussexforever on Sept 25, 2019 10:17:29 GMT
/ Burns Wells Duckett Salt Rawlins Brown H-P Beer Jordan Garton Robinson Sorry I meant three signings, I forgot about Brexit and the Kolpak culling. Seven homies, three outsidies and one foreignie, as per rules, everyone's a winner. Will Travis Head open, where we really need experience and quality, or bat at 3 or 4? My starting 11 next year from current squad would be Wells Head Van Zyl Salt Rawlins Brown Weise Garton Beer Jordan Robinson Jordan is probably the most questionable and could be replaced by another youngster or Claydon as part of a rotation of the seamerss That looks a good side to me, we just need Wells to sort his current slump out. I have faith in CJ too as I don't think his injuries have helped him all that much in 2019. If we could sign Topley permanently he will be a good rotation option alongside Claydon. Let's hope Rawlins has signed a new deal too! And Tymal for the T20! |
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Post by liquidskin on Sept 25, 2019 16:48:18 GMT
I think Topley has been signed permanently Sussexforever.
Head's not an opener really Foxy, I think he's a three or four. Three for us I would suggest cos nobody here wants that spot.
Salt
Wells
Head
VZ
Rawlins
Brown
Wiese
Garton
Beer
Jordan
Robinson
That's the team people, all bases covered, bats long, loads a bowling. I could coach that team to promotion, easy. The stupid thing is that we have been one signing away from that side for two years. That's why I'm critical of the Gillespie. It's been right there the whole time barring one decent OS signing. With his contacts too. The mind boggles.
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Post by joe on Sept 25, 2019 17:07:36 GMT
I think Topley has been signed permanently Sussexforever. Head's not an opener really Foxy, I think he's a three or four. Three for us I would suggest cos nobody here wants that spot. Salt Wells Head VZ Rawlins Brown Wiese Garton Beer Jordan Robinson That's the team people, all bases covered, bats long, loads a bowling. I could coach that team to promotion, easy. The stupid thing is that we have been one signing away from that side for two years. That's why I'm critical of the Gillespie. It's been right there the whole time barring one decent OS signing. With his contacts too. The mind boggles. I don’t think Rawlins is good enough for the No5 spot, yet. He’s still in smash-it mode and needs to learn to play within himself. I’d give Head the captaincy and maybe promote Brown up to 5. I’d also hope to have signed Topley for another season ( he owes us that much ) and he’d come in for Jordan who’s been below par in the CC for 2 or 3 seasons now. Robinson and Topley opening the bowling would be as good as, and probably better than anything else in Div 2. I still think we need another opener, perhaps someone like young Hameed from Lancs? |
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Post by liquidskin on Sept 25, 2019 19:05:09 GMT
I think Topley has been signed permanently Sussexforever. Head's not an opener really Foxy, I think he's a three or four. Three for us I would suggest cos nobody here wants that spot. Salt Wells Head VZ Rawlins Brown Wiese Garton Beer Jordan Robinson That's the team people, all bases covered, bats long, loads a bowling. I could coach that team to promotion, easy. The stupid thing is that we have been one signing away from that side for two years. That's why I'm critical of the Gillespie. It's been right there the whole time barring one decent OS signing. With his contacts too. The mind boggles. I don’t think Rawlins is good enough for the No5 spot, yet. He’s still in smash-it mode and needs to learn to play within himself. I’d give Head the captaincy and maybe promote Brown up to 5. I’d also hope to have signed Topley for another season ( he owes us that much ) and he’d come in for Jordan who’s been below par in the CC for 2 or 3 seasons now. Robinson and Topley opening the bowling would be as good as, and probably better than anything else in Div 2. I still think we need another opener, perhaps someone like young Hameed from Lancs? There's only one place to learn. Yep to the captaincy issue. Anyone but a keeper. Not for me, bad message to Rawlins. We have signed Toppers ain't we? Jordan likes the old ball, give Garton the newie. And rotate the lot anyway, they're all a bit limpy at the best of times. Hameed has also been poor for two or three years, worse than Jordan, but he's young so why not. Him, Finch, Haines and Clarke in reserve are what you need. |
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Post by joe on Sept 25, 2019 19:25:58 GMT
Topley was only signed till the end of this season, haven’t heard of any extension yet.
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Post by andrenel on Sept 26, 2019 8:24:44 GMT
I immediately thought that when the news broke that Hameed would be released from Lancashire at the end of the season, his best bet would be to move to another division two club, a change of scenery, get regular CC matches and build himself back up from there. Not sure many division one sides would be overly interested in him. Newell at Notts said recently they signed too many young, inexperienced players this year, whether or not they would be keen on Hameed to open up their batting next season in division two I'm not sure - Sussex maybe? Who knows, he would fit in with the policy of getting "damaged goods" players - either injury prone or have lost their way previously - Topley, Robinson, Mills for example.
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Post by jonboy on Sept 26, 2019 8:25:52 GMT
Re Head and the batting order. I did read that Head’s favoured position is batting at 5, although often, he’s batting lower than that Maybe a legacy from his keeping days?
If he bats at 5 for Sussex, with Van Zyl at 4, that still leaves us trying to form a top three from the usual suspects. In my opinion, we still need to bring in a proper opener
As for Rawlins, him and Salt are the ones who’ve shown enough to keep their places, though personally, I’d use Rawlins at 6, followed by Brown. Browns best ever season was batting there. Wiese at 8 followed by our best three attacking seamers. There is usually no justification to play any of our specialist spinners
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Post by joe on Sept 26, 2019 18:28:00 GMT
My County Championship player ratings
Robinson 9, (63 wickets for the season, we'd have lost a lot more games without him.)
van Zyl 8, (leading run scorer, missed a few games through injury but a class player)
Brown 7.5 (second highest run scorer and most dismissals by a keeper in div 2)
Wiese 7.5 ( played every game of every format with decent returns with bat and ball)
Salt 7 ( continues to show improvement, played some well controlled innings)
Hamza 6.5 ( not earth shattering but a decent return from our O/S bowler)
Rawlins 6.5 (great prospect, will only improve)
Beer 6 (thrown in at the deep end more than once but rose to the challenge more often than not too)
Jordan 5 (a big 100 saved him from getting a 4. Seems to have stalled somewhat)
Wells 4 (very disappointing with the bat, his 5fer stopped him from getting a 3)
Haines 3 (very poor batting, only above Finch because he can bowl some containing overs)
Briggs 3 (gone backwards this season,)
Finch 2 (just not good enough, confidence seems shot)
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Post by liquidskin on Sept 26, 2019 20:15:39 GMT
Gotta feel for Jordan, he averages 28 with the bat and 35 with the ball with 17 catches and gets a 5. Wiese averages 26 and 35 with one catch and gets a 7.5. Are you a Nevada state boxing judge Joe?
JB, Head ain't batting five for us. If that's the plan Gillespie has made another poor signing. You may be right regarding our balance, especially early season. That's either or for me.
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