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Post by ashingtonmartlet on Sept 24, 2020 21:59:42 GMT
Fair point about Moores though. Has anyone ever had a player/coach in cricket Joe? There's probably loads. Frankly, anyone is an improvement in the longer game. Anyone. Gillespie clearly couldn't care less about this form. Although to be fair, that was the spec from Andrew. For all our longer form woes there's been no such failings in T20 recruitment, starting with the glorified coach. We have had one of, if not the best T20 side for the last three years. Yet we have won nothing. That can still change of course and hopefully it will. We need it. I see Jordan is sat on his arse already at the IPL. He usually is. Should be here playing with his team. We could still win the T20 this season, which would be within those 3 years. Yep - Peter Moores with us when he first got the coaching job! And Mark Alleyne was a player coach for Gloucestershire for a while I recall. Hi
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Post by trolleybuss on Sept 24, 2020 22:39:09 GMT
Are you related to dizzy?!! It was pretty obvious he wanted Nash out and told him that. Thats a form of sacking. He also made it pretty clear to Wright he should give up red ball cricket. The jury is still out on t20 but dizzy has been a total failure for the red ball side. The fact that he couldn't improve Wells says it all. Glad dizzy is going. I said at the time it was the wrong appointment and I have been proved right.
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Post by kevininnessupersub on Sept 25, 2020 19:07:54 GMT
I think you will find that Chris Nash left cause of Mark Davies, before Gillespie was even appointed.
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Post by flashblade on Sept 25, 2020 19:33:56 GMT
I think you will find that Chris Nash left cause of Mark Davies, before Gillespie was even appointed. That’s my strong recollection, also. It’s alleged that Davis offered Nash the captaincy, and then withdrew the offer a few days later. Perhaps others can flesh out this story?
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Post by trolleybuss on Sept 25, 2020 20:02:46 GMT
Yes but before Nash made a final decision he spoke to dizzy who sent him on his bike. Same with Wright who was told to give up red ball cricket. Good riddance dizzy. Couldn't cope with a small non test playing club with small budget unlike Yorkshire.
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Post by ashingtonmartlet on Sept 25, 2020 22:44:33 GMT
Are you related to dizzy?!! It was pretty obvious he wanted Nash out and told him that. Thats a form of sacking. He also made it pretty clear to Wright he should give up red ball cricket. The jury is still out on t20 but dizzy has been a total failure for the red ball side. The fact that he couldn't improve Wells says it all. Glad dizzy is going. I said at the time it was the wrong appointment and I have been proved right. Nash left before Gillespie arrived. So no, I’m not related to Dizzy, I just know my facts.
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Post by trolleybuss on Sept 26, 2020 6:44:09 GMT
I repeat Nash spoke to dizzy before he arrived and was told he wasn't wanted. How do you know that wasn't a fact?
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Post by hhsussex on Sept 26, 2020 7:05:41 GMT
I think you will find that Chris Nash left cause of Mark Davies, before Gillespie was even appointed. That’s my strong recollection, also. It’s alleged that Davis offered Nash the captaincy, and then withdrew the offer a few days later. Perhaps others can flesh out this story? A couple of contemporary references to this story which pre-date any involvement with Gillespie. Those of us who were around will remember how Davis gradually lost the plot and effectively found the job too much, too complex to handle the man-management and politics of the role. No need to seek for sinister plots and hatred.
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Post by liquidskin on Sept 26, 2020 10:11:17 GMT
Hatred? Get a grip HH. Don't be banding that pathetic word, which has lost all meaning thanks to the woke community, around. There's a discussion on what may have happened, that's all. Sounds like TB, that's unfortunate, Trolleybuss knows to me.
Regardless of, damage done by both Gillespie & Davis. Gillespie has a chance to repair some though. Wright was the bigger mistake than Nash anyway, he still had plenty left in 4 day cricket.
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Post by flashblade on Sept 26, 2020 11:20:48 GMT
Hatred? Get a grip HH. Don't be banding that pathetic word, which has lost all meaning thanks to the woke community, around. There's a discussion on what may have happened, that's all. Sounds like TB, that's unfortunate, Trolleybuss knows to me. Regardless of, damage done by both Gillespie & Davis. Gillespie has a chance to repair some though. Wright was the bigger mistake than Nash anyway, he still had plenty left in 4 day cricket. I can't understand why the word 'woke' is used as an insult, when the OED defines it to mean "alert to racial or social discrimination and injustice". On that basis, I'm happy to be described as woke.
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Post by trolleybuss on Sept 26, 2020 11:58:21 GMT
I had it from a reliable source that before dizzy was officially announced in Nov 17 and before Nash left just a few weeks earlier Nash contacted dizzy to see if he would be in his plans before he left. Dizzy said no so Nashy went off to Notts.If anyone has a hotline to Nash and dizzy which proves this is incorrect then I am happy to stand corrected. The main point that I am trying to make is that its good news for our club that dizzy is going. We have gone backwards under him in red ball cricket and I have had enough. To sit and watch us get hammered and humiliated at home to Durham and Northants last season when they were both bottom of the table says everything about the overrated dizzy. This is my honest opinion shared by many but I understand differently. I want the best for Sussex and us back in division 1 but we were never going to do that with him. Moores grizz and Matt can't do any worse in red ball cricket as we literally are rock bottom. Bring them home and bring some much needed pride and passion back to our club.
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Post by liquidskin on Sept 29, 2020 18:53:48 GMT
Hatred? Get a grip HH. Don't be banding that pathetic word, which has lost all meaning thanks to the woke community, around. There's a discussion on what may have happened, that's all. Sounds like TB, that's unfortunate, Trolleybuss knows to me. Regardless of, damage done by both Gillespie & Davis. Gillespie has a chance to repair some though. Wright was the bigger mistake than Nash anyway, he still had plenty left in 4 day cricket. I can't understand why the word 'woke' is used as an insult, when the OED defines it to mean "alert to racial or social discrimination and injustice". On that basis, I'm happy to be described as woke. Do you know why it's used in ridicule yet? I think you do.
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Post by flashblade on Sept 29, 2020 19:16:14 GMT
I can't understand why the word 'woke' is used as an insult, when the OED defines it to mean "alert to racial or social discrimination and injustice". On that basis, I'm happy to be described as woke. Do you know why it's used in ridicule yet? I think you do. Can't understand why you want to weaponise a virtue.
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Post by liquidskin on Sept 30, 2020 20:32:08 GMT
It was weaponised way before I came along buddy boy.
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Post by flashblade on Sept 30, 2020 20:48:37 GMT
It was weaponised way before I came along buddy boy. I wasn't suggesting you created the weapon, but you needn't have picked it up - that just encourages the morons who invented it. There is no rational reason for insisting that a virtue is a fault. Maybe someone will start weaponising empathy or kindness - equally stupid!
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