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Post by trolleybuss on Oct 1, 2020 16:50:34 GMT
Doubt if grizz is woke but what I do know is that he has passion and desire to win which has been missing under dizzy. Reckon he would also do the job for a fraction of dizzys wages so another win win. The only problem is Greenfield who made pretty clear to me when we spoke pre dizzy is that grizz ain't coming back on his watch and kept mentioning grizzs Argus column which whenever I read it was nearly always positive and pro Sussex. Reckon it might be because Greenfield didn't play much under grizz. Am sure grizz rubbed some people up the wrong way but he is a winner which is just what we need now. Greenfield-put any petty differences you have with grizz and put the club first and bring grizz and home. We have hit rock bottom so what is there to lose? Nothing.
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Oct 1, 2020 16:58:47 GMT
I found Adam’s Argus column well balanced, fair and informative. I have no
idea why Greenfield was offended by it.
Agreed, Adam’s did upset some close to the club, especially concerning that Yorkshire fiasco,
but grudges from 15 years ago are not acceptable today, where hurt egos should be put
aside for the betterment of the club.
if what you say is true, and I find it hard to believe, then Greenfield should be severely
reprimanded.
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Post by trolleybuss on Oct 1, 2020 17:12:27 GMT
To confirm totally true. I remember the conversation behind the club office 4 years ago like it was yesterday. Greenfield told me he and others at the club didn't like Argus column. Very sad but shows how small minded Greenfield is to use that against grizz who anyone can see really loves Sussex and would do anything to help. We need big change and not just dizzy going. Thank god at least that is a good start.
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Post by liquidskin on Oct 1, 2020 17:24:36 GMT
It was weaponised way before I came along buddy boy. I wasn't suggesting you created the weapon, but you needn't have picked it up - that just encourages the morons who invented it. There is no rational reason for insisting that a virtue is a fault. Maybe someone will start weaponising empathy or kindness - equally stupid! No Flash, it is in opposition to the morons who invented it. The virtue itself isn't the fault, it's the abuse of the virtue that's the fault. Kindness has already been weaponised, haven't you noticed? You can't take the p**s out of anyone these days without someone s******g a brick about it, often not the supposed 'victim'. To mock it is to oppose it. |
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Post by liquidskin on Oct 1, 2020 17:25:45 GMT
To confirm totally true. I remember the conversation behind the club office 4 years ago like it was yesterday. Greenfield told me he and others at the club didn't like Argus column. Very sad but shows how small minded Greenfield is to use that against grizz who anyone can see really loves Sussex and would do anything to help. We need big change and not just dizzy going. Thank god at least that is a good start. Is it the Director of Cricket's job to appoint a coach? |
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Post by trolleybuss on Oct 1, 2020 17:49:14 GMT
Yes who else? Obviously talking to Andrew who controls the purse strings.
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Post by lovelyboy on Oct 1, 2020 19:16:17 GMT
Doubt if grizz is woke but what I do know is that he has passion and desire to win which has been missing under dizzy. Reckon he would also do the job for a fraction of dizzys wages so another win win. The only problem is Greenfield who made pretty clear to me when we spoke pre dizzy is that grizz ain't coming back on his watch and kept mentioning grizzs Argus column which whenever I read it was nearly always positive and pro Sussex. Reckon it might be because Greenfield didn't play much under grizz. Am sure grizz rubbed some people up the wrong way but he is a winner which is just what we need now. Greenfield-put any petty differences you have with grizz and put the club first and bring grizz and home. We have hit rock bottom so what is there to lose? Nothing. Give Grizz the key to the kingdom and give him Grubby and Dizzy’s job. Hell he can have squeaky’s as well if he wants it |
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Post by ashingtonmartlet on Oct 1, 2020 19:23:57 GMT
I’m not sure it is, I think the coach/manager reports into the chief executive rather than the director of cricket. I know Greenfield gets a lot of stick in here but I don’t think he’s anything to do with first team cricket.
As for Adams, interesting to read that about Greenfield and Adams, wouldn’t be anything to do with Grubby not playing much under Adams as he was made second eleven coach the same winter Adams joined us.
Any issue towards Adams from within the club is more likely to be over the RHB affair from 2009/10 when he was tapped up and left to be Surrey captain, as well as other players and coaching staff being approached. Caused a lot of bad blood. That said, the chief exec and chairman at the time aren’t here anymore so you never know.
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Post by jonboy on Oct 1, 2020 19:27:09 GMT
Adams wouldn’t accept mediocrity, Sussex seem happy with it, look no further for their reason not to have him back
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Post by trolleybuss on Oct 1, 2020 19:42:11 GMT
Agree but we had mediocrity before grizz joined but he changed the whole club with his positivity hard work and passion. Sure he would turn things around but needs a chance Andrew/Greenfield? Dizzy has failed and we have gone backwards under him. Time to move forward under the drizzly bear.
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Post by trolleybuss on Oct 1, 2020 19:44:31 GMT
Even the grizzly bear. Bloody predictive text!!! 😂
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Post by grandavefan on Oct 2, 2020 14:54:48 GMT
All this talk of Adams, once I thought he was the man, now? Too long out? Perhaps?
It's all very well saying passion & hardwork. You can supply that, I can too but will that make you & me a good player? No, course it won't.
Who will they bring in? Who's going to fund it?
Where might the players come from, which counties, rejects from other counties? Because after this year that's what they will be.
We have a young group coming through, 2-3 years? But, they need experience in the team, not only the coach, senior players will have a role to
nurture and mature them.
Money will rule the day at the end. Every county will be making cuts. Wait and see for the list of leavers.
As for a coach, It's going to be interesting. I fancy Kirtley.
Adams, long shot.
Greenfield leaving, only if Adams appointed.
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Post by trolleybuss on Oct 2, 2020 15:47:23 GMT
Didn't see much passion from dizzy which was backed up by the appalling red ball season and bang average white ball season. Why is there so much negativity about grizz? Forget what happened with Slurry and RHB who was under contract but yet again we rolled over to Slurry just like we did with Evans. Bloke is a fighter and winner. Of course money comes into it but that will be the same with anyone else. Give him a season and I will be amazed if there isn't an immediate improvement. We are a mess at rock bottom and need a boost. Dizzy has failed. End of. If I am wrong about grizz I will be happy to fall on my sword. Get behind him. He is the most passionate man I have seen and spoken to in all my 50 years of supporting Sussex and players will love to play under him. Fantastic cricket brain too well apart from bowling mushy too often!!! He is a born leader which is just what we need. Goodbye dizzy welcome home grizz. Sussex legend.
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Post by jonboy on Oct 2, 2020 17:24:53 GMT
The main reason for wanting Grizz back, is that he wouldn’t put up with this mediocre nonsense, conversely, that’s probably why the elite won’t have him back. Only Sussex seem to be pleading poverty here. For the other counties, it’s business as normal, well as near to normal as it can be. Most other counties are releasing a few peripheral players, and are busy recruiting for next season.
Paupers Durham, hot on the heels of some significant recruitment last season, are at it again. They’ve already re-signed Borthwick, and are trying to follow that up with Stoneman. Contrast that to Sussex, who have decided to let go first teamers Evans, Briggs, Wells, Wiese and Finch, and without a coach, will be rummaging around in the bargain basement bins for any leftovers. It’s pathetic
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Post by flashblade on Oct 2, 2020 17:54:36 GMT
The main reason for wanting Grizz back, is that he wouldn’t put up with this mediocre nonsense, conversely, that’s probably why the elite won’t have him back. Only Sussex seem to be pleading poverty here. For the other counties, it’s business as normal, well as near to normal as it can be. Most other counties are releasing a few peripheral players, and are busy recruiting for next season. Paupers Durham, hot on the heels of some significant recruitment last season, are at it again. They’ve already re-signed Borthwick, and are trying to follow that up with Stoneman. Contrast that to Sussex, who have decided to let go first teamers Evans, Briggs, Wells, Wiese and Finch, and without a coach, will be rummaging around in the bargain basement bins for any leftovers. It’s pathetic I tend to agree with you, jonboy - but I think I'll sit back and see what actually happens over the winter - then I'll make a judgement. To be fair, we don't know what's going on behind the scenes at the moment. My fingers are firmly crossed! |
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