|
Post by coverpoint on Apr 27, 2022 19:53:28 GMT
Atkins has had all close season to get where he was Devon, and so has Hunt, Crocombe & Sarro. It makes me wonder if these lads have had a winter program at all. They should have been whipped in to shape all year. Looks like the only whip Atkins has had is donut whip, whatever that is. Fat or injured is no good here. The top six does not pick itself, it's wrong. Pujara should be at 3, Carter should be at 6, with gloves, and Alsop should be at Hants. Sarro is no longer with Sussex.
|
|
|
Post by devonexile on Apr 27, 2022 20:40:32 GMT
Atkins has had all close season to get where he was Devon, and so has Hunt, Crocombe & Sarro. It makes me wonder if these lads have had a winter program at all. They should have been whipped in to shape all year. Looks like the only whip Atkins has had is donut whip, whatever that is. Fat or injured is no good here. The top six does not pick itself, it's wrong. Pujara should be at 3, Carter should be at 6, with gloves, and Alsop should be at Hants. I get where you are coming from Liquid, but they are all young and still have time to make it. You are right to question the close season, but based on the three matches thus far, Atkins has gone all round the park, Crocombe has bowled well in phases, but I can't see him rolling a side out, we haven't seen Hunt yet and there appears a question over whether Sarro is even still at the Club (Joe - what can you tell us?). Bottom line, they are still developing and given the absences of our more established bowling options for a variety of reasons regretfully the loan market is the only option. I have sympathy with the predicament faced by management around the spinner. Injuries are difficult to predict and manage and clearly they were hoping to avoid surgery in the case of Carson. When it became evident late in the day that this wasn't going to be possible and he would miss the first set of matches, it appears they gambled on Lenham and the part-time options of Rawlins and Coles, combined with early season wickets generally being more conducive to seamers. It hasn't worked, but given the cries on here to use our own players and avoid loans, I don't think you can be over critical towards the management about trying this out first and therefore not planning ahead. However, the seamer situation is a different story. The recruitment and potential for injury of a 33 year old who has hardly played any 4 day cricket for two seasons when it was clear we would need to strengthen in this area given the limited availability of Robinson and Archer, combined with the aforementioned battery of young raw options could be argued to be an even bigger gamble. This was in my very humble opinion compounded by the poor handling of the Brown situation. I was not averse to seeing a new Captain, but not only did we need to have a natural replacement it would looking from the outside appear to have been handled very badly souring relations. Even so, I understand he still had a year on his contract and he should have been made to honour that and retained as part of this year's squad Yes, players who are unhappy can be a problem in the dressing room, but given his performances towards the end of last season and his affinity with the club over many years I believe he would have continued to perform and most importantly we could have used the second overseas spot for a much needed strike bowler as opposed to replacing the runs he would have no doubt contributed. So here, I personally think the management really didn't cover themselves in glory. Happy to be proved wrong, time will no doubt tell. Back to tomorrow's team I was giving Alsop the benefit of another chance, he was unlucky in the first two games with what appeared a bad LBW decision against Notts and Haines running him out on the 'road of a wicket' at Derby when he looked good. Although, a crazy run out of his own making and a first baller at Worcester haven't helped his cause. The interesting thing about him is his First Class record is very similar to one H Z Finch, one of our own who wasn't deemed up to the required standard. Given Alsop's loan signing and that of Finn were the principal activity during close season, it will be interesting come the end of the season to assess their contributions and consequently the quality of the recruitment by the current management. So if you despatch Alsop and play Carter at 6, who bats at 7 given the absence of a natural all rounder at present?
|
|
|
Post by coverpoint on Apr 28, 2022 6:11:07 GMT
So if you despatch Alsop and play Carter at 6, who bats at 7 given the absence of a natural all rounder at present? We need to pick our five best batsmen (Orr, Haines, Pujara, Alsop and Clark), five best bowlers (Beard, Burrows, Crane, Crocombe and Hunt) and the best keeper (Rizwan). It's up to the batsmen to get the runs and the bowlers to get the wickets.
|
|
|
Post by trolleybuss on Apr 28, 2022 8:49:02 GMT
ECB refused to let Ollie play. Not bowled enough in the nets apparently. You couldn't make it up!!🤔😬😔
|
|
|
Post by joe on Apr 28, 2022 9:43:54 GMT
We’ve lost the toss and field first.
Team is Orr, Haines, Alsop, Pujara, Clark, Rizwan, Rawlins, Crane, Beard, Burrows, Crocombe.
|
|
|
Post by skylark on Apr 28, 2022 9:47:46 GMT
How on earth does Delray keep getting selected he has had enough chances and never learns from his mistakes surely Ollie Carter deserves a chance especially as Sussex have got Mason Crane to fulfill the spin bowler option
|
|
|
Post by liquidskin on Apr 28, 2022 10:04:16 GMT
Disaster. Hope we left some grass on, but suspect that kind of innovation to be way beyond this bunch. 3 seamers and 2 spinners in April. 2 spinners with barely a wicket between them. At just gets dumber.
Rawlins would be my 7 Devon, that's who.
What has Alsop done to warrant best batsman status CP? Clark's only on your list cos of a ton - that's a young player given a chance. It's criminal Carter ain't in, criminal I tells ya.
Really needed this toss today. Although considering our leaders we'd have probably bowled.
|
|
|
Post by therealab1 on Apr 28, 2022 10:12:29 GMT
The FC Class Averages of our bowling options doesnt feel me with a great deal of confidence.
Crane 42 Burrows 43 Crocombe 45 Beard 32 Rawlins 57 Haines 43 Clark 79
To put things into Perspective bowlers we are missing Finn 28 Robinson 21 Archer 24 Carson 32 Hudson-Prentice 29 Garton 35
Its quite a significant difference and certainly proves the point especially that only 1 bowler playing this game has a better average than any of the 6 we dont have available.
|
|
|
Post by lovelyboy on Apr 28, 2022 11:48:12 GMT
The FC Class Averages of our bowling options doesnt feel me with a great deal of confidence. Crane 42 Burrows 43 Crocombe 45 Beard 32 Rawlins 57 Haines 43 Clark 79 To put things into Perspective bowlers we are missing Finn 28 Robinson 21 Archer 24 Carson 32 Hudson-Prentice 29 Garton 35 Its quite a significant difference and certainly proves the point especially that only 1 bowler playing this game has a better average than any of the 6 we dont have available. Have some faith RealAb! 😉 What a morning for the boys!
|
|
|
Post by therealab1 on Apr 28, 2022 11:51:02 GMT
Blimey!
|
|
|
Post by joe on Apr 28, 2022 12:01:28 GMT
2 bowling points with Tom Clark the hero with the ball in the first session.
|
|
|
Post by Wicked Cricket on Apr 28, 2022 12:02:59 GMT
|
|
|
Post by liquidskin on Apr 28, 2022 12:15:08 GMT
Yeah, would it kill you to have some faith Gordy? Jeez. Considerable point on the bowlers though. When are they all back? Then we can all cheer up.
I think we may have the best batting line-up for bowling we've ever had. Stick Bopara and Wright in there and we got a team.
Green top? Have we wised up? We should be green topping everyone's arses at Hove right now.
|
|
|
Post by philh on Apr 28, 2022 12:16:43 GMT
One is simply hope we win the toss on a typical boring Hove wicket and bat first and long. The second, which is what I would have been doing from the off, is produce a green top. Everyone knows if your bowling is weak and your batting is strong, produce a green top. And vice versa. That's obvious and it's easy to do. Remarkably easy. But our leaders have not done this and I'm beginning to wonder if the thought has even entered their simple little minds. Let's just hope we win the toss and then make it count. It doesn't really matter if it's our attack or someone else's flops running in, except that it's highly embarrassing. Have you taken over as groundsman, liquidskin?
|
|
|
Post by devonexile on Apr 28, 2022 12:28:08 GMT
Please can someone tell me where the real Sussex side are and who are these imposters?
I have to admit I shared therealab1's concerns over our bowling attack, but what a fantastic session!
The real difference for me this morning was how much straighter we have bowled compared to last week with far fewer deliveries wide outside off or straying down the leg.
Is it too soon to start considering Tom Clark as more than a part-time bowler?
Let's also be fair, Durham have also got a fairly decent batting line up, which makes this even more impressive. It does make you think how Robinson would have performed if he had played.
This is a great position, hopefully we can press home the advantage. This could all come down to how our batters cope with Rushworth.
I am not convinced this is a green top Liquid, but I will reserve final judgement until both sides have batted. With our luck, if it is we will probably get deducted points for an unfit pitch!!
|
|