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Post by therealab1 on Dec 19, 2023 11:33:50 GMT
www.espncricinfo.com/story/ipl-2024-auction-the-list-of-sold-and-unsold-players-1413396Some eye watering sums of money. Nothing for Phil Salt but i reckon he might get picked up in the 2nd round. This got me thinking, as big a loss as he was, just how much we'd see of him now anyway and to that point of all the players that have left. Looking at the list Will Anti Sussex MacPherson created David Wiese - Would only play T20 Phil Salt - Plays in multiple frnachises around the world and again youd see him sporadically. Luke Wells - Dizzys biggest error Harry Finch - No loss at all, lucky to still have a career with his stats. Laurie Evans - Again a golbal franchise player albeit the smaller ones but does so never the less so would only be a blast player. Ben Brown - A loss for sure with the bat but his keeping was hit and miss, we have a better player in Simpson Michael Burgess - Decent but at the time we had Ben Brown so was never going to be a first choice Chris Jordan - Blast only, global franchise player too Danny Briggs - Again a loss and would still get in above Carson although we'd risk losing the latter if Briggs would have stayed. Reece Topley - After reviving his career he turned down a big contract offer with us to go to Surrey. Delray Rawlins - Ive added him in this list, he had a breakthrough in the ODC but often flattered to deceive, i hope he continues his career in England but know he was massively homesick. Ali Orr - A big part of our future and would play all 3 fomats. Agent turned his head and a dangerous precedent set for Cricket in the future. Ravi Bopara - A one format player and never popular with the fans. 4 out of the 13 were of a huge loss and 2 i feel weve adequately replaced.
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Post by kevininnessupersub on Dec 19, 2023 13:36:40 GMT
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Post by ashingtonmartlet on Dec 19, 2023 21:12:21 GMT
www.espncricinfo.com/story/ipl-2024-auction-the-list-of-sold-and-unsold-players-1413396Some eye watering sums of money. Nothing for Phil Salt but i reckon he might get picked up in the 2nd round. This got me thinking, as big a loss as he was, just how much we'd see of him now anyway and to that point of all the players that have left. Looking at the list Will Anti Sussex MacPherson created David Wiese - Would only play T20 Phil Salt - Plays in multiple frnachises around the world and again youd see him sporadically. Luke Wells - Dizzys biggest error Harry Finch - No loss at all, lucky to still have a career with his stats. Laurie Evans - Again a golbal franchise player albeit the smaller ones but does so never the less so would only be a blast player. Ben Brown - A loss for sure with the bat but his keeping was hit and miss, we have a better player in Simpson Michael Burgess - Decent but at the time we had Ben Brown so was never going to be a first choice Chris Jordan - Blast only, global franchise player too Danny Briggs - Again a loss and would still get in above Carson although we'd risk losing the latter if Briggs would have stayed. Reece Topley - After reviving his career he turned down a big contract offer with us to go to Surrey. Delray Rawlins - Ive added him in this list, he had a breakthrough in the ODC but often flattered to deceive, i hope he continues his career in England but know he was massively homesick. Ali Orr - A big part of our future and would play all 3 fomats. Agent turned his head and a dangerous precedent set for Cricket in the future. Ravi Bopara - A one format player and never popular with the fans. 4 out of the 13 were of a huge loss and 2 i feel weve adequately replaced. Not anti-Sussex, he's a Sussex fan, as we all are. No matter which way you gloss over it or dress it up, or try to defend them, it's an unacceptable level of departures, and you'd be mad to think otherwise (or on the payroll, or on the wind-up). |
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Post by therealab1 on Dec 20, 2023 6:27:09 GMT
Again John you revert back to type because you know theres a lot of truth in what ive written.
Not once have i said the number of departures is acceptable. What im saying is the ways its written is designed to make you think its an absolute disaster but when you take the time to run through it only 3 of them would still be playing regularly in all formats and thats undeniable.
Theres no defence in my post of any one, just my personal analysis of current players situations. Again thats what bothers you John is the truth actually hurts you and you refuse to admit it.
We have a very exciting very talented squad.
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Post by therealab1 on Dec 20, 2023 12:40:58 GMT
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Post by therealab1 on Dec 20, 2023 14:25:42 GMT
www.thecricketer.com/Topics/county-cricket-premium/essex_sweating_financial_uncertainty_historic_racism_costs_escalate.htmlFascinating read this. Note the NDA's! Realised it was members only content so here goes. Essex sweating over financial uncertainty as historic racism costs escalate
NICK HOWSON: There is an acceptance that parts of the club's portfolio will need to be sold to ensure they survive to the end of 2024 after legal fees and costs associated with the scandal leapt to £760,609
"A material uncertainty exists" over the future of Essex as a result of mounting costs related to the historic cases of racism committed at the club.
That is according to the club's latest financial report and statement which confirms that legal and associated fees connected to the scandal have soared to £760,609 and are expected to climb over the coming months as the fallout continues.
Katharine Newton KC's report was released earlier this month (December 8), upholding complaints made by Jahid Ahmed, Maurice Chambers and Zoheb Sharif and unearthing numerous incidents of discriminatory behaviour. Chair Anu Mohindru KC admitted "fundamental errors in the past" and has apologised to the victims.
A disciplinary process is underway while the England and Wales Cricket Board - who have already fined Essex £50,000 for the use of alleged racist language at a board meeting six years ago - are also investigating.
Essex expect costs associated with the episode to continue to rise and, combined with losses of £378,983 for the year ended December 31, 2022, have short-term financial concerns.
Indeed, the club are now considering selling "part of its listed company investment portfolio" to guarantee they can meet costs for the final quarter of 2024 and believes there is "a material uncertainty" over the future.
While the club's finances are not as grave as those at Middlesex, who were sanctioned for breaching financial regulations in September, or Yorkshire who are refinancing club debts having been compromised by costs - including a £400,000 fine by the Cricket Discipline Commission - following their own racism scandal, there is an acceptance of the peril of their situation.
Last year's financial figures reveal net current assets sit at £442,482 and holding cash and investments at £2,494,845.
The club published a 38-page summary of the investigation carried out by Newton KC over the past two years but the contents of the full report remain undisclosed, though they have been passed to the ECB.
The Cricketer understands all Essex board members have been asked to sign five-year non-disclosure agreements regarding the specific details. Last Tuesday (December 12) cricket committee chair Jason Gallian, deputy chair Victoria Keil and members' committee member Piyush Somaiya were elected to the board from a list of eight candidates.
The report includes conclusions that a current player and member of the coaching staff engaged in racist or discriminatory behaviour, while a former chair and head coach are also implicated.
Mohindru KC hopes to have handed down sanctions to those implicated in the report by the end of next month. "I don't want to put up an unrealistic timeline but I want to get this done," he told The Cricketer. "January is realistic."
However, sources have questioned this pledge after numerous dates to release the Newton report were missed since it was commissioned in November 2021.
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Post by wrightstuff on Dec 20, 2023 15:35:02 GMT
A quick look at the Essex squad and coaches page on the official Essex webpage makes it fairly obvious who the player and coach must be, because only one player and one coach fits the bill in terms of being around when these incidents occurred. (in the case of the player, probably 'only' the later incidents with Maurice Chambers, as the other complainants were, I think, before his time).
Okay, they'll fight tooth and nail to stop their names being revealed, but the report narrows it down so much it is fairly obvious who it must be, (but as they haven't been named I won't name them either).
It looks like their defence and delaying tactics have helped add to Essex's mounting legal bill, and yet the club continues to employ them.
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Post by ashingtonmartlet on Dec 20, 2023 17:40:49 GMT
Again John you revert back to type because you know theres a lot of truth in what ive written. Not once have i said the number of departures is acceptable. What im saying is the ways its written is designed to make you think its an absolute disaster but when you take the time to run through it only 3 of them would still be playing regularly in all formats and thats undeniable. Theres no defence in my post of any one, just my personal analysis of current players situations. Again thats what bothers you John is the truth actually hurts you and you refuse to admit it. We have a very exciting very talented squad. Am I referring to type? Or is it just “the truth”….? |
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Post by joe on Dec 20, 2023 19:49:15 GMT
Again John you revert back to type because you know theres a lot of truth in what ive written. Not once have i said the number of departures is acceptable. What im saying is the ways its written is designed to make you think its an absolute disaster but when you take the time to run through it only 3 of them would still be playing regularly in all formats and thats undeniable. Theres no defence in my post of any one, just my personal analysis of current players situations. Again thats what bothers you John is the truth actually hurts you and you refuse to admit it. We have a very exciting very talented squad. I would suggest that all our exciting and talented players have left apart from perhaps James Coles. Even Carson and Haines have gone backwards. How do you think our band of so called exciting and talented players would fare in Division One? |
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Post by therealab1 on Dec 20, 2023 20:54:00 GMT
Again John you revert back to type because you know theres a lot of truth in what ive written. Not once have i said the number of departures is acceptable. What im saying is the ways its written is designed to make you think its an absolute disaster but when you take the time to run through it only 3 of them would still be playing regularly in all formats and thats undeniable. Theres no defence in my post of any one, just my personal analysis of current players situations. Again thats what bothers you John is the truth actually hurts you and you refuse to admit it. We have a very exciting very talented squad. Am I referring to type? Or is it just “the truth”….? You are an intelligent man John, you know what I've said in the post you responded to is correct, you haven't argued differently. Joe, I'd say Seales is exciting I'd say pujara is talented I'd say Hughes is both amongst so many. |
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Post by squarepoint on Dec 20, 2023 21:38:46 GMT
It’s concerning to hear of another county in financial difficulty. You have to hope they’re not all lined up like dominoes in the way the clubs appear to be in Rugby Union.
On another topic mentioned above … my adopted county of Kent has just awarded a new contract to Harry Finch and they’re no fools. I agree he hasn’t realised his early potential but I was disappointed when we released him. He would have been a stabilising factor while many others were deserting the sinking ship and added depth to a very thin squad.
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Post by joe on Dec 20, 2023 21:53:40 GMT
Am I referring to type? Or is it just “the truth”….? You are an intelligent man John, you know what I've said in the post you responded to is correct, you haven't argued differently. Joe, I'd say Seales is exciting I'd say pujara is talented I'd say Hughes is both amongst so many. All the players you’ve named are overseas and none are here all season. I’m talking about our Sussex squad. |
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Post by therealab1 on Dec 21, 2023 8:50:01 GMT
You are an intelligent man John, you know what I've said in the post you responded to is correct, you haven't argued differently. Joe, I'd say Seales is exciting I'd say pujara is talented I'd say Hughes is both amongst so many. All the players you’ve named are overseas and none are here all season. I’m talking about our Sussex squad. So theyre not part of the squad? |
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Post by therealab1 on Dec 21, 2023 8:52:43 GMT
It’s concerning to hear of another county in financial difficulty. You have to hope they’re not all lined up like dominoes in the way the clubs appear to be in Rugby Union. On another topic mentioned above … my adopted county of Kent has just awarded a new contract to Harry Finch and they’re no fools. I agree he hasn’t realised his early potential but I was disappointed when we released him. He would have been a stabilising factor while many others were deserting the sinking ship and added depth to a very thin squad. A 100 inning career averaging 28 isnt good enough. luckily Sussex wont be one of those dominoes. |
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Post by Short Leg (formerly yikemardy) on Dec 21, 2023 9:36:14 GMT
It’s concerning to hear of another county in financial difficulty. You have to hope they’re not all lined up like dominoes in the way the clubs appear to be in Rugby Union. On another topic mentioned above … my adopted county of Kent has just awarded a new contract to Harry Finch and they’re no fools. I agree he hasn’t realised his early potential but I was disappointed when we released him. He would have been a stabilising factor while many others were deserting the sinking ship and added depth to a very thin squad. Players of Finch’s quality are ten-a-penny. He had more chances than he deserved at Sussex. He's one of the few on therealab’s list that Sussex got right. |
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