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Post by therealab1 on Feb 6, 2024 8:03:55 GMT
Yes very sad news, a regular at Hove over the years, good friend of Peter Graves I believe as he was always at the Sussex Invitation League dinner when Graves was president. And of course, a famous cameo role in the best sitcom of all time. Sussex Invitation League, great league until Gary Stanleys mass player surveys changed the face of Sussex Village Cricket forever. |
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Post by ashingtonmartlet on Feb 6, 2024 9:12:34 GMT
Interesting...I didn't play league cricket from 2010-2016 so was out of the loop - was it during that period?
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Post by therealab1 on Feb 6, 2024 9:19:59 GMT
Interesting...I didn't play league cricket from 2000-2016 so was out of the loop - was it during that period? That era i'd say was my enjoyable years of village cricket at Clayton and then Poynings, not entirely sure when all the leagues merged but i know the invitational league was one of the first to merge. The mid Sussex league always attracted some top players. I remember 1 bowler Dominic Lanaway, firey character used to play for Colemans Hatch he would bowl from 1 end all innings. Used to play for Sussex 2s and Tunbridge Wells after and was a real challenge. Now sadly its 40/40 with silly fielding restrictions and pro level laws. |
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Post by ashingtonmartlet on Feb 6, 2024 10:26:46 GMT
Sorry - that should read 2010-2016. The West Sussex League and Invitation League merged for the 2009 season (to become the West Sussex Invitation League), then the Sussex Cricket League was formed in 2018 (I think) which brought together the East Sussex League, the West Sussex Invitation League and the Sussex League, but not the Mid-Sussex League, who were merged in for 2019 (I think).
I remember that name, saw it in Sussex 2nds scorecards.
I'm glad it's not just me that doesn't like 40/40 for all but 4 of the divisions, ok in the lower divisions, but much preferred the proper game with the draw option. Divisions 3 play 45 overs a side, and it's 40 overs below that.
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Post by therealab1 on Feb 6, 2024 10:30:26 GMT
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Post by squarepoint on Feb 6, 2024 18:48:41 GMT
Because the club get paid compensation for anyone who has an ECB central contract (so costs nothing) [That was in response to my comment that there would be no point signing a centrally contracted bowler like Robinson who’s scarcely ever made available to play for their county] My point wasn’t that it’s a waste of money, more a waste of time. You might get a couple of early season games out of it if you’re lucky. Much better to build a consistent and committed team. |
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Post by therealab1 on Feb 6, 2024 20:12:08 GMT
Because the club get paid compensation for anyone who has an ECB central contract (so costs nothing) [That was in response to my comment that there would be no point signing a centrally contracted bowler like Robinson who’s scarcely ever made available to play for their county] My point wasn’t that it’s a waste of money, more a waste of time. You might get a couple of early season games out of it if you’re lucky. Much better to build a consistent and committed team. Hard to get a consistent team with none of those players pushing to play for England though. We have a duty to produce England players and we do, we take the rough with the smooth and have a world class bowler when we can. |
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Post by sixandout on Feb 6, 2024 20:49:34 GMT
[That was in response to my comment that there would be no point signing a centrally contracted bowler like Robinson who’s scarcely ever made available to play for their county] My point wasn’t that it’s a waste of money, more a waste of time. You might get a couple of early season games out of it if you’re lucky. Much better to build a consistent and committed team. Hard to get a consistent team with none of those players pushing to play for England though. We have a duty to produce England players and we do, we take the rough with the smooth and have a world class bowler when we can. I think it should be a two-way street, though. I don’t see much evidence of England caring about Sussex. |
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Post by therealab1 on Feb 7, 2024 8:07:44 GMT
Hard to get a consistent team with none of those players pushing to play for England though. We have a duty to produce England players and we do, we take the rough with the smooth and have a world class bowler when we can. I think it should be a two-way street, though. I don’t see much evidence of England caring about Sussex. completely agree but that isnt Ollie's fault. I think its madness you would pick say Henry Crocombe over Ollie Robinson just because he's available every week, thats village cricket mentality. |
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Post by squarepoint on Feb 7, 2024 8:55:33 GMT
[That was in response to my comment that there would be no point signing a centrally contracted bowler like Robinson who’s scarcely ever made available to play for their county] My point wasn’t that it’s a waste of money, more a waste of time. You might get a couple of early season games out of it if you’re lucky. Much better to build a consistent and committed team. Hard to get a consistent team with none of those players pushing to play for England though. We have a duty to produce England players and we do, we take the rough with the smooth and have a world class bowler when we can. Yes, retaining an England contracted player is fine by me. However, causing disruption by signing a centrally contracted player that you’d hardly ever get to see play isn’t worth the trouble in my view. I reckon that’s why it very rarely happens. |
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Post by therealab1 on Feb 7, 2024 9:09:12 GMT
Hard to get a consistent team with none of those players pushing to play for England though. We have a duty to produce England players and we do, we take the rough with the smooth and have a world class bowler when we can. Yes, retaining an England contracted player is fine by me. However, causing disruption by signing a centrally contracted player that you’d hardly ever get to see play isn’t worth the trouble in my view. I reckon that’s why it very rarely happens. Yeah big counties generally will be the only ones that do do that and thats more for white ball availability. It's also the influence they have on the squad too when theyre back at Hove. Imagine a youngster learning in nets facing Jofra and Ollie. |
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Post by ashingtonmartlet on Feb 7, 2024 16:06:38 GMT
Yeah I think there's a big difference, that's why someone like Cook never left Essex (apart from him being happy there), because they become totally unattractive as a potential signing.
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Post by therealab1 on Feb 19, 2024 12:55:31 GMT
With it now looking 99.9% likely that we will have no more new incoming players, we are going to be relying on huge improvement from some of our squad to prvide much needed depth.
The winter Bertie Foreman and Dan Ibrahim have had may push them in to First Team contention, Foreman especially as Carsons form with the ball hasnt been very steady.I suspect he may end up being a batter that bowls a bit.
It's almost criminal allowing Orr to go and not replacing him, we should have made him see out his contract!
The good news is i heard a rumour we may have Ollie for 4 or 5 of the first 7 games and he is likely to be available for the first game providing no injury.
1. Tom Haines
2. Tom Clark
3. Tom Alsop
4. Cheteshwar Pujara
5. James Coles
6. John Simpson (WK)(C)
7. Fynn Hudson-Prentice
8. Jack Carson
9. Ollie Robinson
10. Ari Karvelas
11. Jayden Seales
Leaving Oli Carter, Henry Crocombe, Bertie Foreman, Sean Hunt, Dan Irahim, Danny Lamb, Archie Lenham, Zach Lion-Cachet, Henry Rogers and Charlie Tear.
Theres numbers but is there the quality to really drive them on!
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Post by surreysteve on Feb 19, 2024 17:08:49 GMT
Oli Carter was one of your best batsman last season!! Pujara should open with Haines and Carter in the middle order. I am amazed you havent signed another bowler after Wright saw how your lot behaved against Leics and decided to knock it on the head.
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Post by j on Feb 19, 2024 17:52:16 GMT
With it now looking 99.9% likely that we will have no more new incoming players, we are going to be relying on huge improvement from some of our squad to prvide much needed depth. The winter Bertie Foreman and Dan Ibrahim have had may push them in to First Team contention, Foreman especially as Carsons form with the ball hasnt been very steady.I suspect he may end up being a batter that bowls a bit. It's almost criminal allowing Orr to go and not replacing him, we should have made him see out his contract! The good news is i heard a rumour we may have Ollie for 4 or 5 of the first 7 games and he is likely to be available for the first game providing no injury. 1. Tom Haines 2. Tom Clark 3. Tom Alsop 4. Cheteshwar Pujara 5. James Coles 6. John Simpson (WK)(C) 7. Fynn Hudson-Prentice 8. Jack Carson 9. Ollie Robinson 10. Ari Karvelas 11. Jayden Seales Leaving Oli Carter, Henry Crocombe, Bertie Foreman, Sean Hunt, Dan Irahim, Danny Lamb, Archie Lenham, Zach Lion-Cachet, Henry Rogers and Charlie Tear. Theres numbers but is there the quality to really drive them on! Even a miserable sod like me can't deny that there is some quality in that 11. There are still so many issues though: Not all of that 11 will be with us for the entirety of the season. As a result, the biggest problem is the squad depth. We have numbers but they're so unders in terms of quality. Just can't keep flogging dead horses like Crocombe and Hunt every season and expect change. The rumours you've heard on Robinson sound encouraging, however we all know what England are like, especially towards Div 2/smaller counties. The moment they get a whiff of any injury to a Robinson, they'll standing him down. Plus he has golf and podcasting commitments with that bint of his, which I'm sure will be his focus. The Simpson signing I think will prove to be a good one, however it does leave us with a logjam of keepers. I can't see Tear playing this season and Carter improved with the bat last year. If he doesn't play, I can a situation where the see the test county vultures start circling around him. This is also Simpson's first time as a captain in his career, after the massive climbdown from Farbrace claiming he wanted 1 captain for the season. |
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