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Post by jonboy on Sept 11, 2014 20:51:54 GMT
I take it that he has been told that he will be able to play on, and be able to keep Hopefully he can, although fully fit Matt Prior is good enough to challenge for an England place purely as a batsman
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Post by hhsussex on Sept 18, 2014 16:04:56 GMT
Interesting that Matt Prior has just retwweted the link to this blog Legacy of Matt Prior tribute to him, with a rather final opening paragraph: "Following the Buttler heroics at the end of the Indian series and following the revelation that Matt Prior’s injury is worse than feared, even the most ardent fan must admit that a comeback for the wicket keeper is unlikely. The sad end to his career." That would seem to suggest that Matt has decided enough is enough and to put his energies into finding another career rather than battling to be fit and perhaps second-best, or less. That would be understandable and I'd echo the tone of the blog in paying tribute to all his many fine qualities. At the same time it will undoubtedly come as a great relief to Messrs Robinson, Toumazi and May, because there's no doubt that finding even a fraction of Prior's former ECB salary would not only deprive the club of any chance of finding another player to join the payroll next season, but would have seriously jeopardised the livelihoods of all those who remain. If this is the end of the road, it does at least have the consolation that it gives Sussex a little more breathing space in what is becoming a very tight financial climate.
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Post by fraudster on Sept 20, 2014 15:14:21 GMT
A couple of days ago he sounded as keen as the Colonel from what I heard. Can't remember where I heard it though so maybe it was a dream - he was sitting next to a pork pie with arms and legs and a giraffe the size of a packet of rolos so I'm not sure I can clarify it.
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Post by jonboy on Oct 1, 2014 13:36:41 GMT
Got to be happy about that Hope this and Robbo's comments about budgetary pressures doesn't cast fresh doubts about the future of Luke Wells. According to the Argus, he wasn't one of those out of contract but I've seen conflicting information elsewhere. Really wouldn't want Luke to leave Sussex, and I hope he isn't tempted to do so
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Oct 1, 2014 14:56:28 GMT
Yep, the conflict of hearts and minds between coach and club hierarchy begins. Can Sussex CCC afford to keep Matt Prior? Are there any players in contract the club can let go of without too much of a pay-off? One can think of at least one high paid Sussex player who is not required now but may have another year left on his contract. (Mark Robinson) "We've got to fit him on to the wage bill, which isn't easy and is giving the chief executive and the chairman some sleepless nights," he said. "It has been softened by Chris Jordan getting a central contract, but it is still an outlay.
"The playing budget here has stayed static for five years and times are hard. You have to constantly beg, steal and borrow to make things better while trying to hang on to your best players.”www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cricket/29429446No surprise then, the club are advertising for a 'Non-Match Day Sales Executive' in a bid to increase the off-field revenue streams. This will be needed if Robinson wins the day. (click on pic to read it)
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Post by jonboy on Oct 1, 2014 15:39:29 GMT
Yep, the conflict of hearts and minds between coach and club hierarchy begins. Can Sussex CCC afford to keep Matt Prior? Are there any players in contract the club can let go of without too much of a pay-off? One can think of at least one high paid Sussex player who is not required now but may have another year left on his contract. (Mark Robinson) "We've got to fit him on to the wage bill, which isn't easy and is giving the chief executive and the chairman some sleepless nights," he said. "It has been softened by Chris Jordan getting a central contract, but it is still an outlay.
"The playing budget here has stayed static for five years and times are hard. You have to constantly beg, steal and borrow to make things better while trying to hang on to your best players.”www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cricket/29429446No surprise then, the club are advertising for a 'Non-Match Day Sales Executive' in a bid to increase the off-field revenue streams. This will be needed if Robinson wins the day. (click on pic to read it) View AttachmentIt's a question I've asked before but, can the budget be set over a two or three year period. It must come into the thinking at least, because we are able to offer a three year contract to players. What I mean is, Robbo might be hamstrung next season, but we still need a couple of recruits. If we cannot balance the books next year, due to Matt losing his central contract, could we not go slightly over budget, and claw it back the following year, when we appear to have more flexibility?
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Post by flashblade on Oct 1, 2014 16:02:29 GMT
Yep, the conflict of hearts and minds between coach and club hierarchy begins. Can Sussex CCC afford to keep Matt Prior? Are there any players in contract the club can let go of without too much of a pay-off? One can think of at least one high paid Sussex player who is not required now but may have another year left on his contract. (Mark Robinson) "We've got to fit him on to the wage bill, which isn't easy and is giving the chief executive and the chairman some sleepless nights," he said. "It has been softened by Chris Jordan getting a central contract, but it is still an outlay.
"The playing budget here has stayed static for five years and times are hard. You have to constantly beg, steal and borrow to make things better while trying to hang on to your best players.”www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cricket/29429446No surprise then, the club are advertising for a 'Non-Match Day Sales Executive' in a bid to increase the off-field revenue streams. This will be needed if Robinson wins the day. (click on pic to read it) Wonder why our existing sales/marketing team can't do this?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2014 23:52:13 GMT
Yep, the conflict of hearts and minds between coach and club hierarchy begins. Can Sussex CCC afford to keep Matt Prior? Probably not. But they don't have any choice as he is is under contract (signed in April this year apparently, when Prior and England allegedly knew his injury was a lot more serious than was being admitted - at least according to Dobell, who made the allegation in the same Sussex article last April in which he said Zaidi would take zero wickets and alleged that Luke Wells was out out contract and looking to move to a side that would guarantee him T20 cricket. At the time all three claims seemed like a typical piece of dodgy ****-stirring, but to be fair he was at least right about Prior). When Robinson says "we've got to fit him on the wage bill" that's "got to", as in May and Toumasi don't have any wiggle room in the matter. If he was 'let go', Sussex would have to pay-off his contract for 2015, anyway.
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Post by lovelyboy on Oct 2, 2014 6:02:40 GMT
Yep, the conflict of hearts and minds between coach and club hierarchy begins. Can Sussex CCC afford to keep Matt Prior? Probably not. But they don't have any choice as he is is under contract (signed in April this year apparently, when Prior and England allegedly knew his injury was a lot more serious than was being admitted - at least according to Dobell, who made the allegation in the same Sussex article last April in which he said Zaidi would take zero wickets and alleged that Luke Wells was out out contract and looking to move to a side that would guarantee him T20 cricket. At the time all three claims seemed like a typical piece of dodgy ****-stirring, but to be fair he was at least right about Prior). When Robinson says "we've got to fit him on the wage bill" that's "got to", as in May and Toumasi don't have any wiggle room in the matter. If he was 'let go', Sussex would have to pay-off his contract for 2015, anyway. As always Dobell was slated by the normal suspects on here for saying that Prior had a serious injury and Wells wanted to move on. And as usual dobell was right
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2014 8:36:52 GMT
Probably not. But they don't have any choice as he is is under contract (signed in April this year apparently, when Prior and England allegedly knew his injury was a lot more serious than was being admitted - at least according to Dobell, who made the allegation in the same Sussex article last April in which he said Zaidi would take zero wickets and alleged that Luke Wells was out out contract and looking to move to a side that would guarantee him T20 cricket. At the time all three claims seemed like a typical piece of dodgy ****-stirring, but to be fair he was at least right about Prior). When Robinson says "we've got to fit him on the wage bill" that's "got to", as in May and Toumasi don't have any wiggle room in the matter. If he was 'let go', Sussex would have to pay-off his contract for 2015, anyway. As always Dobell was slated by the normal suspects on here for saying that Prior had a serious injury and Wells wanted to move on. And as usual dobell was right Remarkable that he was slated on here, given that this message board didn't actually exist at the time! And perhaps you could tell us where Luke Wells is going?
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Post by lovelyboy on Oct 2, 2014 8:42:32 GMT
You know what I meant. Slated on the old messageboard by posters who continue to snipe at Dobell on this board. The fact that Wells still hasn't signed a new contract (the argus is wrong) shows that he is looking at moving on. Time for a large slice of Dobell humble pie for some!
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Post by jonboy on Oct 2, 2014 8:50:28 GMT
Crikey, if you're right, that would leave us with a huge hole to fill. Without dragging the skipper from his favoured position, we don't have any other openers. Machan at a push, but he has no real experience there in the longer form. I do hope you are wrong on this one
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2014 8:51:11 GMT
We can only go on what you write, lovelyboy. You cannot expect us to guess or interpret what you might mean! As it happens there is a reference to the Dobell article in this very thread, posted on May 24 (a month after the article). It reads: "George Dobell claimed on cricinfo that it is a long-term injury and that he would not be fit to play for England this summer and implied that there was a cover-up to conceal the full extent of the injury. Perhaps he was right. Mind you , he also said Stephen Davies would be England's keeper in the first Test - and the chap has now given up the gloves even in the Surrey side. So who knows? I suspect nobody really does, even Prior and the physios, hence Robinson's comment that the decision on his fitness may not be taken until the morning of the match." Whether there was a cover-up as Dobell suggested, I don't know. Any evidence you have would be interesting. And I wonder what happened to Stephen Davies succeeding Prior as England keeper? Disturbing if you are correct that Wells is not contracted for 2015. It does indeed raise the prospect that he might not be at Hove next season.
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Post by lovelyboy on Oct 2, 2014 8:56:18 GMT
BM I'm 99 percent sure Wells hasn't signed a new contract with Sussex. Like everyone else I really hope he does. I don't know anymore than that I'm afraid!
I was just trying to point out that when it comes to Sussex and Sussex players Dobell is normally on the money and find it strange how much flak he gets
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2014 9:18:03 GMT
Sort of thinking aloud here, but I wonder if Sussex are actually prepared to let Wells go?
I'm sure it would be done with a heavy heart, but Robinsion has told us that the Prior situation is making it very difficult to balance the budget and we know we need to bring in one and possibly two bowlers (Mills and Tredwell?)
So something has to give.
And as we potentially now have ten basmen comepeting for six places (Nash/Wells/Joyce/Cachopa/Wright/Prior/Yardy/Hamilton-Brown/Machan/Finch), one of them is sadly surplus to requirements - and that one might be the chap who doesn't do white ball cricket and has a list A avge of 8 and a T20 avge of 3 ?
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