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Post by hhsussex on Jun 3, 2015 13:16:05 GMT
Adrian Harms says on the BBC radio: "Walking around talking to people during the lunch interval there is a general view that the Sussex top order batsmen have lacked application." I'm sure that "general view" was expressed with considerably less circumlocution.
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Post by hhsussex on Jun 3, 2015 13:26:16 GMT
Adrian Harms says on the BBC radio: "Walking around talking to people during the lunch interval there is a general view that the Sussex top order batsmen have lacked application." I'm sure that "general view" was expressed with considerably less circumlocution. All over. Won 3, lost 3, 75 points. Currently 4th, equal on points to Warwickshire, and above Notts, now on 61 , and Worcestershire on 53. If Middlesex beat Warwicks - which they could do - they will soar into the lead in the First division. Worcester are probably favourites to beat Hampshire, which would give them 69 points. From a Sussex point of view, we must pick a team that will beat Hampshire with maximum points. That will keep us in mid-table and should give us some spirit for the inevitable lifeless draw at Arundel. Let us hope for some good and accurate news from the sick-room, that Ed Joyce comes back to county cricket determined to reproduce his Irish form, and that somehow at least two of Nash, Wells, Yardy, Machan, Wright and Cachopa learn to make 20s into 50s, and build 100 run partnerships.
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Post by rusty on Jun 3, 2015 13:56:24 GMT
How embarrassing! I was going to post last night that whatever we were set to chase, we would not make more than 150; however,I didn't want to be negative. Gurney took a Michelle! How depressing is that? Their two opening bowlers have little F/C experience but managed twelve wickets between them as opposed to Jordan's three. Finally, why pick Hobden if the skipper can't trust him to bowl in seamer-friendly conditions? Beer should be looking for another gig.
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Post by crickettrader on Jun 3, 2015 15:51:46 GMT
A few quick sums - 1st innings scores against Sussex in the 6 matches so far. 1st 6 wickets have produced 868 runs - the last 4 have produced 795. This really tells it's own story. We could quite easily be looking at 5 out of 6 wins without a few irritating late partnerships. Given the batting at the moment that would have been an amazing position to be in.
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Post by jonboy on Jun 3, 2015 15:59:06 GMT
A few quick sums - 1st innings scores against Sussex in the 6 matches so far. 1st 6 wickets have produced 868 runs - the last 4 have produced 795. This really tells it's own story. We could quite easily be looking at 5 out of 6 wins without a few irritating late partnerships. Given the batting at the moment that would have been an amazing position to be in. Something we may have avoided, had we been able to field five bowlers, or at least four and a genuine all rounder. It probably wouldn't have had much effect on the batting either
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Post by coverpoint on Jun 3, 2015 16:32:19 GMT
The problem is the Sussex batsman don't just lack application they don't even know what it is! They don't put a high enough price on their wicket. Perhaps the time has come to introduce performance related pay for the batsmen because after all if you don't score anything you don't deserve to be paid anything! At the moment the batsmen are a disgrace to themselves and the club. They don't seem to have any pride in their performance. To be beaten in two and a half days is unacceptable.
Someone once said on the old messageboard that I can piss for longer than Cottey can bat. Unfortunately that doesn't now only apply to one individual but to the whole team! It is an utter disgrace that we have only batted for 75 overs in the match and something needs to be done about it. Playing have been locked out of dressing rooms for less! They deserve to be deducted 25% of their match fee. Employing a full-time batting coach would be a start. We cannot continue as we are!
Looking at the Notts batting only four batsmen, really three because Wood did so in both innings, passed 26.
As for next match thankfully we have Joyce back.
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Post by coverpoint on Jun 3, 2015 16:35:12 GMT
I aslo forgot the bit about the positive side of the match ending in two and a half days is that it means we've got an extra day and a half to get in the nets and work on a few technical issues (well we would if we had a batting coach) and ensure we're on our A1 game for Sunday... In one and a half days it's not a batting coach we need but a miracle worker!
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Post by coverpoint on Jun 3, 2015 16:40:55 GMT
There jonboy, I've translated into coach-speak for you, to save Mark Robinson the bother later this afternoon! You have forgotten the bit about how diffilult it is for a side to feel settled when so many players have injuries and how Shahzad will definitely be back next month, and Anyon is now sitting up in bed and taking light refreshment, while Lewis Hatchett is doing splendidly on his new legs. What injury list? We're only missing Joyce and Shahzad from our first choice eleven because we will never see Prior again in a Sussex shirt. Hatchett, Zaidi and Anyon wouldn't have made the team anyway. Mills can't play four day cricket. Machan and Yardy returned for this game. There are no excuses for Robinson and Sussex. This is a disgraceful performance from the Sussex batsmen.
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Post by coverpoint on Jun 3, 2015 18:04:52 GMT
Sussex cricket manager Mark Robinson: "The game was won and lost really in the first 15 to 30 balls that Woody [Luke Wood] faced on the first day. "He could have been out to any one of them and then we he went into hitting mode we lost the plot a little bit - but he hit it well. "Really they should have been all out for 140-150 but to get up to 250 was a hundred too many and if we'd been able to get a 50 lead it could have been so different." And if my Granny had bulls she'd be my Grandad! www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/teams/sussex/averagesGood: Machan and Brown Disappointing: Joyce and Wright Rubbish: Wells, Cachopa, Nash and Yardy
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Post by crickettrader on Jun 3, 2015 18:31:47 GMT
I aslo forgot the bit about the positive side of the match ending in two and a half days is that it means we've got an extra day and a half to get in the nets and work on a few technical issues (well we would if we had a batting coach) and ensure we're on our A1 game for Sunday... In one and a half days it's not a batting coach we need but a miracle worker! Nash on interview intimated that he'd by taking to the golf course to end his run of poor form. 'to hit a ball that wasn't moving'.....
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Post by coverpoint on Jun 3, 2015 18:33:14 GMT
In one and a half days it's not a batting coach we need but a miracle worker! Nash on interview intimated that he'd by taking to the golf course to end his run of poor form. 'to hit a ball that wasn't moving'..... You can imagine if someone was watching him do a practice swing. I see you missed the ball once again!
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Post by mrsdoyle on Jun 3, 2015 18:49:44 GMT
In one and a half days it's not a batting coach we need but a miracle worker! Nash on interview intimated that he'd by taking to the golf course to end his run of poor form. 'to hit a ball that wasn't moving'..... My Mum was pretty good at sport, particularly tennis, and she always said golf and tennis were so different because in one the ball was moving and the other not, she found it hard to be good at both, so Mum's advice would be to get off the golf course Chris.
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Post by coverpoint on Jun 3, 2015 19:07:38 GMT
Nash on interview intimated that he'd by taking to the golf course to end his run of poor form. 'to hit a ball that wasn't moving'..... My Mum was pretty good at sport, particularly tennis, and she always said golf and tennis were so different because in one the ball was moving and the other not, she found it hard to be good at both, so Mum's advice would be to get off the golf course Chris. Spend the next three days for eight hours a day in the nets. The same goes for Wells, Yardy and Cachopa. It is about time Robinson kicked some players butts! Carry on batting like this and you will have 30/40 years of flipping burgers and asking would you like fries with that on minimum wage ahead of you!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2015 20:59:33 GMT
Sussex cricket manager Mark Robinson: "The game was won and lost really in the first 15 to 30 balls that Woody [Luke Wood] faced on the first day. Hilarious, as Jon Filby would say. The game was won and lost over two and a half days in which Sussex were second best in every department. Notts scored 500 runs. Sussex couldn't get 200 in either innings and pitifully lost 20 wickets in 75 overs. I trust the notion that the game turned on a tiny sub-section of play of between two and five overs in which the bowlers failed to dimsiss a tail-ender whose previous highes score was 26 is purely for public consumption, and a much harsher and more realistic message is being delivered behind closed doors to the Sussex batsmen. And what's going on with Hobden? Only bowled seven overs in each innings. Was Nash scared of the wides/no balls/byes he might give away? No point in having a fourth seamer if he's not trusted to bowl.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2015 22:12:29 GMT
To be fair this quote from Robinson seems closer to the mark and a lot more realistic: "I was disappointed that we started to feel a bit sorry for ourselves towards the end of the second day and I think that carried over a bit. But for the last four games we have played on result wickets and the batsmen are a bit shell-shocked, really, and they need to get some confidence back."
Shell-shocked batsmen surely need a batting coach. Chris Adams isn't doing anything, and is probably available as a consultant over the next three days...
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