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Post by fraudster on Jun 15, 2014 16:56:10 GMT
Cook ain't got a clue and it's been clear for all to see throughout this match, like the coms. He's so defensive, what the hell have we been doing for the last hour? Very slowly bat them out of the game, and our chances of winning. We could be 380 ahead by now and declaring soo we could have 8 at them. It ain't the road it was for the first three days. Very boring, uninspiring cricket.
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Post by ketmandid on Jun 15, 2014 18:02:08 GMT
The lower order get England out of a fix again, no real change in the England game from the winter apart from the lower not being blown away every innings. Well played Jordan and Balance, could have been in a pickle and SL needing under 300
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Post by fraudster on Jun 15, 2014 19:31:13 GMT
That would have been the best thing that could have happened Ketters, for England and the fans - maybe not under 300 but not many over it. This is the first Test since that winter, and in the first innings the top order did a job, so I don't get the "again" mate? Anyway, the change is in personnel only, and there's a fair amount in that. But there's no change in our brand. I think Cook is the most cautious captain in my lifetime, which ultimately means zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
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Post by ketmandid on Jun 16, 2014 1:41:34 GMT
That would have been the best thing that could have happened Ketters, for England and the fans - maybe not under 300 but not many over it. This is the first Test since that winter, and in the first innings the top order did a job, so I don't get the "again" mate? Anyway, the change is in personnel only, and there's a fair amount in that. But there's no change in our brand. I think Cook is the most cautious captain in my lifetime, which ultimately means zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. In the first innings it was 120-4 and might have been 210-6 if Prior had been given out by the on-field umpire. It was the lower order that took it from 120-4 575-9dec I don't think the top order did a good job in the first innings. I agree, it is only the first test so a long way to go this summer. They must declare overnight - if not then I think you are right that Cook is even MORE conservative than Strauss. But they do not want it to be six test loses in a row so I would probably have batted to the close today
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Post by mrsdoyle on Jun 16, 2014 19:36:55 GMT
That would have been the best thing that could have happened Ketters, for England and the fans - maybe not under 300 but not many over it. This is the first Test since that winter, and in the first innings the top order did a job, so I don't get the "again" mate? Anyway, the change is in personnel only, and there's a fair amount in that. But there's no change in our brand. I think Cook is the most cautious captain in my lifetime, which ultimately means zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. In the first innings it was 120-4 and might have been 210-6 if Prior had been given out by the on-field umpire. It was the lower order that took it from 120-4 575-9dec I don't think the top order did a good job in the first innings. I agree, it is only the first test so a long way to go this summer. They must declare overnight - if not then I think you are right that Cook is even MORE conservative than Strauss. But they do not want it to be six test loses in a row so I would probably have batted to the close today I agree, first don't lose, not only had we lost 5 in a row, it could have been 8 or 9 in a row if things had panned out slightly differently, so OK to make the game safe. Also I think it was nice to let Ballance get his century. Of course with hindsight we can say we should have had 5 overs at them last night lol.
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Post by ketmandid on Jun 16, 2014 20:01:15 GMT
or as they said on commentary, taken the game each night to the full 90 overs and not stopped at 6.30, what a stupid rule. If the players were kept hanging around until 7.00 to get in the full number then they might get through them a bit quicker. It was great when Broad won the test only for it to be a big inside edge - England did well to get near a victory, it looked nailed on for a draw so probably the right result in the end.
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Post by fraudster on Jun 16, 2014 20:27:07 GMT
You two are nuts. Clearly, Cook's made himself look foolish with his defensive declaration, just as I complained about yesterday. This is the worse thing that could have happened to him after all the criticism for not declaring earlier. We needed one wicket but ran out of time with them 190 runs behind a winning total for themselves - what part of that do you not see? The pitch and conditions changed big time from the fourth day, and we blew it. They were never gonna get close to 350 let alone 390. If we'd have been bowled out 300 ahead we'd have won. And we missed Panesar badly, him being the only viable option.
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Post by flashblade on Jun 18, 2014 16:48:34 GMT
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Post by ketmandid on Jun 20, 2014 13:28:55 GMT
Second Test and no posts yet.
Just tuning in and Plunkett gets two in two, I was going to moan about winning the toss and putting SL in, is Cook trying to hide. Plunkett has saved him a bit. Matthews has a really good average for someone I would have considered a bit average 46.69 I think they had on my cricinfo sky coverage. 109-4 but it was 108-2, why did Cook bowl first? WHY WHY WHY, the sun is shining, was it grey first thing? WHY?
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Post by mrsdoyle on Jun 20, 2014 15:03:35 GMT
Second Test and no posts yet. Just tuning in and Plunkett gets two in two, I was going to moan about winning the toss and putting SL in, is Cook trying to hide. Plunkett has saved him a bit. Matthews has a really good average for someone I would have considered a bit average 46.69 I think they had on my cricinfo sky coverage. 109-4 but it was 108-2, why did Cook bowl first? WHY WHY WHY, the sun is shining, was it grey first thing? WHY? Missed the start of the match but apparently it was overcast at the toss which obviously justifies the decision to bowl first, bearing in mind how well that choice panned out for Sri Lanka last test, not. Maybe everyone is still hung over from another stonking performance from our footballers, dare I hope that for the Costa Rica game we say thank you and goodnight to the remnants of the 'golden generation' and go with our youngsters who show promise.
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Post by wally on Jun 20, 2014 15:49:09 GMT
Had prior appealed when he caught sangakkara or had sangakkara not been dropped three times ( one a dolly to prior) then they wouldn't have made such a big score
229-9
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Post by ketmandid on Jun 20, 2014 16:15:17 GMT
I did not see the early part. I could see Sanhga has lived a charmed life, not the best person to drop 3 times Just would have thought that batting first was the best idea. SL still batting so who knows how many they will get, 257-9 . Not much intelligence in bowling at the last two. But it is fun to watch
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Post by leedsgull on Jun 20, 2014 18:32:10 GMT
Just back from an interesting day at Headingley. It was overcast until near lunchtime but I would have still batted first. I guess the end of play score however justifies the decision to insert. Plunkett was the most effective bowler and Anderson also looked good. Sadly Moin looks totally out of his depth and having watched Jordan from square leg all day what is wrong with his run up? It is very laboured but he did deserve a wicket. Only Prior's drop was very bad the others were missed run-outs or very sharp chances.
The ground was barely 2/3 full. It is a myth that Yorkshire people support cricket. I paid £40 for an excellent seat. The same seat on Monday will cost me £20. I consider that excellent value and compares very favourably with the prices at Elland Road for Championship football. Yorkshire do not deserve to stage Test matches with this poor support.
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Post by flashblade on Jun 22, 2014 17:04:17 GMT
Just back from an interesting day at Headingley. It was overcast until near lunchtime but I would have still batted first. I guess the end of play score however justifies the decision to insert. Plunkett was the most effective bowler and Anderson also looked good. Sadly Moin looks totally out of his depth and having watched Jordan from square leg all day what is wrong with his run up? It is very laboured but he did deserve a wicket. Only Prior's drop was very bad the others were missed run-outs or very sharp chances. The ground was barely 2/3 full. It is a myth that Yorkshire people support cricket. I paid £40 for an excellent seat. The same seat on Monday will cost me £20. I consider that excellent value and compares very favourably with the prices at Elland Road for Championship football. Yorkshire do not deserve to stage Test matches with this poor support. I'm amazed at the size of today's crowd. Looks well under half full, on a Sunday.
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Post by fraudster on Jun 22, 2014 19:18:29 GMT
Yep, shame on Yorkshire for that. I hope it's duly noted.
As Rod, Jane and Freddy used to say, this is a free for all. Although they had something much more dispicable, yet temporarily fantastic, in mind. Filthy bunch.
Anyway, a few more runs and I quite fancy Sri Lanka.
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