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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2015 16:33:00 GMT
We have more fools than spinners. If Zaidi is a specialist spinner we're doomed, doomed.
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Post by coverpoint on Aug 31, 2015 16:49:12 GMT
We have more fools than spinners. If Zaidi is a specialist spinner we're doomed, doomed. He is the best we have given the management and captain's insistence on not picking Beer in the four day team under any circumstances. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2015 18:51:04 GMT
Amazingly no Beer but the red ball king Liddle is included. Straight choice between Hatchett and Zaidi.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2015 19:02:19 GMT
Amazingly no Beer but the red ball king Liddle is included. Straight choice between Hatchett and Zaidi. It says "there are a couple of injury doubts in the squad that will need testing on the day of the game" so not a question of choices, but more a case of whoever is fit. Assuming the injury doubts are to the seam bowlers, the first eight should pick themselves: Wells Joyce Machan Nash Wright Yardy Brown Zaidi then it's Magoffin, Jordan and Robinson if they are fit, with Hatchett and Liddle in reserve if not... |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2015 19:09:45 GMT
Amazingly no Beer but the red ball king Liddle is included. Straight choice between Hatchett and Zaidi. It says "there are a couple of injury doubts in the squad that will need testing on the day of the game" so not a question of choices, but more a case of whoever is fit. Assuming the injury doubts are to the seam bowlers, the first eight should pick themselves: Wells Joyce Machan Nash Wright Yardy Brown Zaidi then it's Magoffin, Jordan and Robinson if they are fit, with Hatchett and Liddle in reserve if not... Would any competent coach play Liddle in a four day game? |
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Post by hhsussex on Aug 31, 2015 19:44:42 GMT
It says "there are a couple of injury doubts in the squad that will need testing on the day of the game" so not a question of choices, but more a case of whoever is fit. Assuming the injury doubts are to the seam bowlers, the first eight should pick themselves: Wells Joyce Machan Nash Wright Yardy Brown Zaidi then it's Magoffin, Jordan and Robinson if they are fit, with Hatchett and Liddle in reserve if not... Would any competent coach play Liddle in a four day game? Liddle can look convincing, but finds it hard to sustain. Against Middlesex he was a key bowler in the first innings, then rather lost his way. Against Yorkshire he was indescribably bad on the Friday: full tosses, half-trackers, all manner of filth, yet given a very reluctant second chance by Joyce on the Saturday morning he put in a spell full of venom, genuine pace and a slingy, skiddy line that had genuine batsmen troubled. That threat that he could still perform probably keeps him in the squad. What worries me is the inclusion of Hatchett, never a threat last year when he was fit, and having only played a little bit of second eleven cricket. It suggests that one of the big three is probably unlikely to play, and my heart sinks at the thought. I hope that borderman is right and that Zaidi will play, though I have my doubts that Zaidi is still regarded as a credible option by the Robinson-Joyce machine. It's not that he is particularly good at either branch of his game, rather than we need his bowling to offer variety, to get through the overs a little more efficiently, and that a last four of Zaidi, Jordan, Robinson, Magoffin would be a lot more inspiring as batting (as well as bowling) than , for example, Jordan, Magoffin, Hatchett and Liddle. |
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Post by jonboy on Aug 31, 2015 20:22:40 GMT
If the injury concerns involve any of our three main bowlers, Magoffin, Jordan or Robbo 2, which I think could be the case, given the make up of the squad, then we are in big trouble
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2015 6:52:16 GMT
Would any competent coach play Liddle in a four day game? Liddle can look convincing, but finds it hard to sustain. Against Middlesex he was a key bowler in the first innings, then rather lost his way. Against Yorkshire he was indescribably bad on the Friday: full tosses, half-trackers, all manner of filth, yet given a very reluctant second chance by Joyce on the Saturday morning he put in a spell full of venom, genuine pace and a slingy, skiddy line that had genuine batsmen troubled. That threat that he could still perform probably keeps him in the squad. What worries me is the inclusion of Hatchett, never a threat last year when he was fit, and having only played a little bit of second eleven cricket. It suggests that one of the big three is probably unlikely to play, and my heart sinks at the thought. I hope that borderman is right and that Zaidi will play, though I have my doubts that Zaidi is still regarded as a credible option by the Robinson-Joyce machine. It's not that he is particularly good at either branch of his game, rather than we need his bowling to offer variety, to get through the overs a little more efficiently, and that a last four of Zaidi, Jordan, Robinson, Magoffin would be a lot more inspiring as batting (as well as bowling) than , for example, Jordan, Magoffin, Hatchett and Liddle. Thanks for adding some useful context regarding Liddle"s performances. Assuming our top three seamers play, I still expect them to take most of the wickets. |
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Post by fraudster on Sept 1, 2015 10:09:08 GMT
Yes, at last, we finally have the balance right after weeks and weeks of tried and tested balance failure - even if few of you chaps could see it, Sussex finally have. Wonder if it's anything to do with Joyce not playing? Bit confused as to why Nash is captain, according to the Beeb, and not Wright. I can't expect us to get everything right though.
Great start.
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Post by hhsussex on Sept 1, 2015 10:13:17 GMT
Yes, at last, we finally have the balance right after weeks and weeks of tried and tested balance failure - even if few of you chaps could see it, Sussex finally have. Wonder if it's anything to do with Joyce not playing? Bit confused as to why Nash is captain, according to the Beeb, and not Wright. I can't expect us to get everything right though. Great start. A great start as you say, but more questions than answers. Why Nash captains instead of Wright? Why Machan is listed to open with Wells, rather than Nash? Whtehr Zaidi would have been playing at all if Joyce was fit? |
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Post by coverpoint on Sept 1, 2015 12:05:44 GMT
Yes, at last, we finally have the balance right after weeks and weeks of tried and tested balance failure - even if few of you chaps could see it, Sussex finally have. Wonder if it's anything to do with Joyce not playing? Bit confused as to why Nash is captain, according to the Beeb, and not Wright. I can't expect us to get everything right though. Great start. A great start as you say, but more questions than answers. Why Nash captains instead of Wright? Why Machan is listed to open with Wells, rather than Nash? Whtehr Zaidi would have been playing at all if Joyce was fit? Nash is the club's vice captain. Machan is listed as opener as that is the way they appear on the scorecard with Joyce out of the team. No Zaidi wouldn't have played if Joyce was fit. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2015 12:24:27 GMT
If playing with five batsmen is a balanced approach, I'd sooner we were unbalanced.
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Post by hhsussex on Sept 1, 2015 12:48:26 GMT
A handy wicket for Jordan, just as I was thinking about posting the reverse goatmouth that it has been 43 overs of his bowling since Magoffin last took a wicket.
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Post by hhsussex on Sept 1, 2015 12:58:40 GMT
:)Oh look! It worked!  |
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Post by philh on Sept 1, 2015 13:10:24 GMT
102 for 5. I really must stop getting too optimistic at least until we have batted.
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