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Post by joe on Sept 1, 2015 13:24:01 GMT
And a 5fer for CJ, good toss to lose?
........and Liddle joins the party, 7 down!
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Post by hhsussex on Sept 1, 2015 13:27:24 GMT
And a 5fer for CJ, good toss to lose? ........and Liddle joins the party, 7 down! Easy stuff, this first division cricket
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Post by philh on Sept 1, 2015 14:35:15 GMT
142 for 8 has become 172 for 8. Another wicket now please.
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Post by jimbon on Sept 1, 2015 16:02:12 GMT
Downpour has left a lot of standing water around edge of outfield. Stopped now and umpires just had a look. No news yet though. Blotter at work.
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Post by jimbon on Sept 1, 2015 16:03:38 GMT
Play now abandoned.
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Post by joe on Sept 1, 2015 16:08:21 GMT
Oh bother! And other words beginning with B. Would have been good to get them all today, let's hope the momentum carries through to tomorrow.
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Post by fraudster on Sept 1, 2015 17:28:54 GMT
If playing with five batsmen is a balanced approach, I'd sooner we were unbalanced. Why? We shall see anyway. Five batters, an all rounder and a wicky is old school but for me, unless you have four proper and decent bowlers, or it's April, the old school way is more positive. The other way has been thoroughly exhausted by our leaders and clearly hasn't worked so change it, and they have, finally. So far so good but it takes two to tango - to use a saying that means something quite different but that might just make sense.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2015 18:37:02 GMT
If playing with five batsmen is a balanced approach, I'd sooner we were unbalanced. Why? We shall see anyway. Five batters, an all rounder and a wicky is old school but for me, unless you have four proper and decent bowlers, or it's April, the old school way is more positive. The other way has been thoroughly exhausted by our leaders and clearly hasn't worked so change it, and they have, finally. So far so good but it takes two to tango - to use a saying that means something quite different but that might just make sense.
fraudster knows what he's talking about when he's not singing Rule Britannia and spouting nonsense about three day pitches being great for Test cricket. Brown is more than good enough to bat at six - only seven batsmen have scored more Div One runs this season and I'd say it's between him and Ollie Robinson for player of the season, despite the way Mark Robinson has messed him around in white ball cricket. Well bowled Chris Jordan. Does anyone else think he seems to be a bowler who has to be tuned just right to get the best out of him? When he's not had enough cricket (England please note) he seems to struggle and it has taken him a couple of matches to get back to his best after the recent injury. And when he's overbowled he tends to lose his radar a bit and get too leggy. Seems like we've got him at absolute optimum peak in this match and if he can bowl Sussex to victory at New Road he may just have saved the season.
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Post by jonboy on Sept 1, 2015 19:56:06 GMT
Yes, have to be pleased with today's efforts. If we can stop them from achieving a single batting point, and then aim to bat ourselves for the best part of two days. We will probably need to do that, as the weather forecast isn't that great for tomorrow. It won't be easy batting through the showers tomorrow, but we need to make sure we have enough wickets intact to be able to post a decent lead on Thursday.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2015 20:42:10 GMT
Why? We shall see anyway. Five batters, an all rounder and a wicky is old school but for me, unless you have four proper and decent bowlers, or it's April, the old school way is more positive. The other way has been thoroughly exhausted by our leaders and clearly hasn't worked so change it, and they have, finally. So far so good but it takes two to tango - to use a saying that means something quite different but that might just make sense.
fraudster knows what he's talking about when he's not singing Rule Britannia and spouting nonsense about three day pitches being great for Test cricket. Brown is more than good enough to bat at six - only seven batsmen have scored more Div One runs this season and I'd say it's between him and Ollie Robinson for player of the season, despite the way Mark Robinson has messed him around in white ball cricket. Well bowled Chris Jordan. Does anyone else think he seems to be a bowler who has to be tuned just right to get the best out of him? When he's not had enough cricket (England please note) he seems to struggle and it has taken him a couple of matches to get back to his best after the recent injury. And when he's overbowled he tends to lose his radar a bit and get too leggy. Seems like we've got him at absolute optimum peak in this match and if he can bowl Sussex to victory at New Road he may just have saved the season. Wells, Nash, Machan, Wright and Yardy have not dug in and scored consistently this yer. brown averages 4.4 in T 20 this year. Not a recipe for success. As you say, we will see. I don't think Nash should be captain. He's reckless with the bat and a bad example. There is no logic to Liddle's selection.
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Post by jonboy on Sept 1, 2015 20:46:12 GMT
fraudster knows what he's talking about when he's not singing Rule Britannia and spouting nonsense about three day pitches being great for Test cricket. Brown is more than good enough to bat at six - only seven batsmen have scored more Div One runs this season and I'd say it's between him and Ollie Robinson for player of the season, despite the way Mark Robinson has messed him around in white ball cricket. Well bowled Chris Jordan. Does anyone else think he seems to be a bowler who has to be tuned just right to get the best out of him? When he's not had enough cricket (England please note) he seems to struggle and it has taken him a couple of matches to get back to his best after the recent injury. And when he's overbowled he tends to lose his radar a bit and get too leggy. Seems like we've got him at absolute optimum peak in this match and if he can bowl Sussex to victory at New Road he may just have saved the season. Wells, Nash, Machan, Wright and Yardy have not dug in and scored consistently this yer. brown averages 4.4 in T 20 this year. Not a recipe for success. As you say, we will see. I don't think Nash should be captain. He's reckless with the bat and a bad example. There is no logic to Liddle's selection. The other thing is, will Nash open? He hasn't been opening for a while now, but with no obvious opening candidates, perhaps he should return alongside Wells
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Post by hhsussex on Sept 2, 2015 7:25:26 GMT
fraudster knows what he's talking about when he's not singing Rule Britannia and spouting nonsense about three day pitches being great for Test cricket. Brown is more than good enough to bat at six - only seven batsmen have scored more Div One runs this season and I'd say it's between him and Ollie Robinson for player of the season, despite the way Mark Robinson has messed him around in white ball cricket. Well bowled Chris Jordan. Does anyone else think he seems to be a bowler who has to be tuned just right to get the best out of him? When he's not had enough cricket (England please note) he seems to struggle and it has taken him a couple of matches to get back to his best after the recent injury. And when he's overbowled he tends to lose his radar a bit and get too leggy. Seems like we've got him at absolute optimum peak in this match and if he can bowl Sussex to victory at New Road he may just have saved the season. We are not playing T20. In the championship Brown averages 44.57, Machan 43.00, Wright 40.91. Nash and Yardy have not been consistent throughout the season, but in recent games both have played intelligent and significant innings. Yet again the team has woken up to find it has sleepwalked into a crisis. Whether they can get out of it this time probably will depend upon the batting. David Hopps in his cricinfo review says the pitch has been twice used this season already, and a player has described it as being like carpet tiles. With that in mind, and the likelihood of showers today some very boring, steadfast batting would not come amiss.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2015 7:30:45 GMT
Nash is always playing T20!
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Post by fraudster on Sept 2, 2015 9:30:31 GMT
The logic I can clearly see to Liddle's inclusion is about balance, the right balance. Whether the personnel is right for that balance is another question but the options weren't great - could have chucked in a yoot. I have no idea why the management and most on here, it seems, think 3/4 bowlers was a working formula for so long. I would go as far as to say that we're in this mess because we've constantly played 3/4 bowlers instead of 4/5. Remember, it isn't all about the extra bowler's wicket taking ability but the workload he takes from the main strike force. A tired bowler is a s**t bolwer.
Borderman you diabolical, I will cast ye soul to the pits of hell - not really. Three day pitches are not great for Test matches, I never said that and we didn't play on any. Blame the reckless batsmen for your lost cricket not the groundsmen.
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Post by hhsussex on Sept 2, 2015 11:42:38 GMT
A somewhat nervous passage to lunchtime and a just about acceptable 59-2. Yardy and Wells were opening partners in three consecutive losses in June this year and the record now is 196 runs from 7 stands, an average of 28 which is pretty moderate. Joyce may have disliked opening, but he was by far the leading partner in our opening stands this season.
As for Wells 602 runs at 28.66 this season tells it's own story: almost good enough. The 21 expensively bought wickets don't begin to compensate.
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