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Post by jonboy on Jun 28, 2014 10:13:10 GMT
Hope this isn't going to be a repeat of the Zaidi fiasco, where we make a panic signing 'because all the other counties are chasing him'. Don't think we'd find better quality of his age domestically. Zaidi on the other hand, always looked a risk, and I was flabbergasted at the award of a two year contract ( ditto Liddle ) |
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Post by flashblade on Jun 28, 2014 10:16:59 GMT
Hope this isn't going to be a repeat of the Zaidi fiasco, where we make a panic signing 'because all the other counties are chasing him'. Don't think we'd find better quality of his age domestically. Zaidi on the other hand, always looked a risk, and I was flabbergasted at the award of a two year contract ( ditto Liddle ) That's reassuring, jonboy. Has he suddenly burst on the scene, because I've never heard anyone mention his name before? |
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Post by fraudster on Jun 29, 2014 9:12:04 GMT
My friend in Wellington says that he is a great prospect and would be a good catch for any side! Come on Sussex before Surrey wave their wad! Why don't you tout him for your side then? Wally, did they have overseas rules when you were a lad, cos it doesn't sound like it to me? Our pool of English players needs protecting, that's why the rules are in place. Unfortunately, largely thanks to EU laws and careless greedy counties, these rules are constantly breached, resulting in players like Zaidi, who is a 32 year old Pakistani who will never play for England, blocking the route of players like Beer, who is a 25 year old Englishman, born and bred in Sussex and who could therefore play for England. Sorry if that sounds racist, actually I'm not sorry, because it isn't and if you think it is you're stupid. Oh and Wally, I can assure you that the majority of England players were not born overseas, even with Trott and KP. The ratio in the last game was seven to four, and it was about that it KP and Trott's time. As I've said many times before on the old board, it's not about where they're born, for me. If a 12 year old or 15 year old, a minor basically, comes to England, plays cricket through one of our Academies (Prior, Strauss, Stokes...ect) then no problem, they are good to go. It doesn't matter where they were born - but bred, yeah. P.S. It is a new world, somewhat, but what's brave about it? Personally I think people are much less brave in the 'new world'. |
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Post by jonboy on Jun 29, 2014 9:22:24 GMT
Our batting has long been a problem, and things are no different this season. Can we turn our nose up at a prospect like Craig Cachopa?
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Post by fraudster on Jun 29, 2014 9:38:55 GMT
Is he more of a prospect than Zaidi? If he's so good someone in NZ would have snapped him up wouldn't they. Like Zaidi he's probably a chancer. He knows England is full of chances and chancers.
Look if we sign him we sign him, I'm sick of banging my drum, nobody cares and every county does it, so sod it. But don't get so excited about a guy who scored a ton for the seconds, as did Finch, or a 90 in a three day game for the seconds, while Zaidi got a ton. The amount of people on here going nuts about this fella when he's served no time is desperate. Have a good look at him, sure, but don' offer him a two year deal and bump him up ahead of Finch or Machan on the back of two decent scores for the seconds.
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Post by flashblade on Jun 29, 2014 10:06:43 GMT
Is he more of a prospect than Zaidi? If he's so good someone in NZ would have snapped him up wouldn't they. Like Zaidi he's probably a chancer. He knows England is full of chances and chancers. Look if we sign him we sign him, I'm sick of banging my drum, nobody cares and every county does it, so sod it. But don't get so excited about a guy who scored a ton for the seconds, as did Finch, or a 90 in a three day game for the seconds, while Zaidi got a ton. The amount of people on here going nuts about this fella when he's served no time is desperate. Have a good look at him, sure, but don' offer him a two year deal and bump him up ahead of Finch or Machan on the back of two decent scores for the seconds. You're talking sense, fraudster - as usual. I don't want this guy to become Zaidi mark 2. |
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Post by jonboy on Jun 29, 2014 14:19:19 GMT
Is he more of a prospect than Zaidi? If he's so good someone in NZ would have snapped him up wouldn't they. Like Zaidi he's probably a chancer. He knows England is full of chances and chancers. Look if we sign him we sign him, I'm sick of banging my drum, nobody cares and every county does it, so sod it. But don't get so excited about a guy who scored a ton for the seconds, as did Finch, or a 90 in a three day game for the seconds, while Zaidi got a ton. The amount of people on here going nuts about this fella when he's served no time is desperate. Have a good look at him, sure, but don' offer him a two year deal and bump him up ahead of Finch or Machan on the back of two decent scores for the seconds. You're talking sense, fraudster - as usual. I don't want this guy to become Zaidi mark 2. Theres a big difference, this guy averages 51 in first class cricket, has already scored five first class centuries, including a double hundred, and he's only 22. Unlike Zaidi, he is of an age where he could get even better. He has the pedigree, and by all accounts, a good attitude, and he's the right age. A no brainer I'd have thought |
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Post by coverpoint on Jun 29, 2014 14:30:50 GMT
Zaidi had 11 first class 100s, averaged 38, had a double hundred to his name and scored a big hundred for the seconds and we offered a contract on the back of that. Cachopa has scored runs in New Zealand have been on pitches that are very different to England. What is the standard of domestic cricket like in New Zealand? If he is so good why are they not doing more to keep him? His scores in the last ten games on his cricinfo profile don't look that impressive! Cachopa has only been here five weeks. Give him the rest of the season in the seconds before making a decision which you come to regreat later.
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Post by jonboy on Jun 29, 2014 14:52:20 GMT
Zaidi had 11 first class 100s, averaged 38, had a double hundred to his name and scored a big hundred for the seconds and we offered a contract on the back of that. Cachopa has scored runs in New Zealand have been on pitches that are very different to England. What is the standard of domestic cricket like in New Zealand? If he is so good why are they not doing more to keep him? His scores in the last ten games on his cricinfo profile don't look that impressive! Cachopa has only been here five weeks. Give him the rest of the season in the seconds before making a decision which you come to regreat later. The crucial difference for me is the age, and the fact that Zaidi was only playing league cricket. |
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Post by coverpoint on Jun 29, 2014 15:02:46 GMT
Zaidi had 11 first class 100s, averaged 38, had a double hundred to his name and scored a big hundred for the seconds and we offered a contract on the back of that. Cachopa has scored runs in New Zealand have been on pitches that are very different to England. What is the standard of domestic cricket like in New Zealand? If he is so good why are they not doing more to keep him? His scores in the last ten games on his cricinfo profile don't look that impressive! Cachopa has only been here five weeks. Give him the rest of the season in the seconds before making a decision which you come to regreat later. The crucial difference for me is the age, and the fact that Zaidi was only playing league cricket. Yes he is younger. Cachopa has been playing for Reigate Priory this season. What's the difference? Why only three months after scoring a double hundred for Auckland is he playing over here? Why are Auckland not doing anything to keep him? I suppose he may think he can get more money over here. I don't think you can offer anyone a contract based on a couple of innings. I can smell the desperation of people on this messageboard. |
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Post by coverpoint on Jun 29, 2014 16:09:45 GMT
Yes he is younger. Cachopa has been playing for Reigate Priory this season. What's the difference? Why only three months after scoring a double hundred for Auckland is he playing over here? Why are Auckland not doing anything to keep him? I suppose he may think he can get more money over here. I don't think you can offer anyone a contract based on a couple of innings. I can smell the desperation of people on this messageboard. Of course we're desperate. On current form, if all our first team's contracts ran out tomorrow, how many would you renew? RHB, Zaidi, Liddle? Don't get be started. Not those three. On a more serious note decisions made in haste you can later live to regreat. Zaidi being a classic example. |
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Post by jonboy on Jul 2, 2014 21:21:08 GMT
Yet another second eleven century for Craig Cachopa We will dither at our peril
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2014 16:05:33 GMT
Congrats to Craig Cachopa on making the first team squad for the first time tonight v Kent. Not sure he will make the final XI but it's good that his success for the seconds has been recognised.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2014 17:03:05 GMT
Done a bit more research on him now he's made a first team squad.
He has two older brothers, Brad and Carl, who both play first-class cricket in NZ.
He grew up in SA until he was ten, when his father Joe took a teaching job in Auckland. Father Joe also coached all three boys; apparently he set up floodlights in the family's backyard in South Africa, so that cricket practise did not have to cease when the sun went down.
He is qualified for NZ, and captained their under-19s. The talk of a Portuguese passport must mean he qualifies as a kolpak or something as he cannot be registered as an overseas player as we already have Arafat and Magoffin.
He has a fanastic f/c record in NZ - five centuries and eight half-centuries in just 21 matches at an average of 51.
I wonder if it was Luke Wright,when playing for Auckland Aces, who put him in touch with Sussex?
I'd be tempted to play him tonight ahead of either Wells or Finch. It's a big local derby game, live on Sky - and from everything that's been said about him, it sounds like he has the temperament to live up to the occasion.
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Post by wally on Jul 11, 2014 17:35:31 GMT
The crucial difference for me is the age, and the fact that Zaidi was only playing league cricket. Why only three months after scoring a double hundred for Auckland is he playing over here? Why are Auckland not doing anything to keep him? I suppose he may think he can get more money over here. Because it's winter in New Zealand...he played with both Nash and wright. |
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