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Post by nemmo on Jun 30, 2016 20:47:12 GMT
The thing that lost us that was the difference between the two spinners...
Briggs- 2-0-24-0
Cowdrey- 2-0-8-2
Why is he in the team? There is no point in specialist bowlers if you routinely don't bowl them out.
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Post by coverpoint on Jun 30, 2016 20:47:24 GMT
If Cachopa is the answer , Wright and Davis are asking the wrong question. I couldn't agree more. The same could be said about Briggs too. Beer and Brown should have played. Pick your best players Wright and Davis!
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Post by coverpoint on Jun 30, 2016 20:47:55 GMT
The thing that lost us that was the difference between the two spinners... Briggs- 2-0-24-0 Cowdrey- 2-0-8-2 Why is he in the team? There is no point in specialist bowlers if you routinely don't bowl them out. Briggs really is Pants!
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Post by flashblade on Jun 30, 2016 20:57:24 GMT
Wright should have sent Jordan in earlier - ahead of Salt and Cachopa. It's all very well giving the youngsters a chance but you have to be flexible with your batting order.
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Post by flashblade on Jun 30, 2016 20:58:55 GMT
The thing that lost us that was the difference between the two spinners... Briggs- 2-0-24-0 Cowdrey- 2-0-8-2 Why is he in the team? There is no point in specialist bowlers if you routinely don't bowl them out. Briggs really is Pants! Don't think you should insult Briggs. You should blame Davis and Wright for picking him
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Post by coverpoint on Jun 30, 2016 21:00:26 GMT
Wright should have sent Jordan in earlier - ahead of Salt and Cachopa. It's all very well giving the youngsters a chance but you have to be flexible with your batting order. Certainly before Cachopa.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2016 21:00:33 GMT
The thing that lost us that was the difference between the two spinners... Briggs- 2-0-24-0 Cowdrey- 2-0-8-2 Why is he in the team? There is no point in specialist bowlers if you routinely don't bowl them out. Briggs really is Pants! Completely agree. Team seems to be selected on 'we're paying players like Cachopa and Briggs top salaries so we'd better get our money's worth' rather than picking the XI most suited to winning the game. At the moment I never want to see Briggs bowl in a Sussex shirt again. And how was Cachopa, who has barely scored a run in two years home and abroad, selected ahead of Brown, who I think scored four f/c centuries last season? One doesn't mind getting comprehensively thrashed by a better team. But that really wasn't what happened out there. Sussex had the ga me in the palm of their hand before the batsmen screwed it up. How come Jordan - one of the few Sussex bastmen who can hit a genuinely long ball - never even got to the crease? If I was one of the Sussex bowlers I'd be feeling pretty murderous towards the batsmen right now.
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Post by nemmo on Jun 30, 2016 21:01:07 GMT
That's a very fair point too. Hopefully they learn from their mistake and don't play him tomorrow! Beer is the better spinner and is also better with the bat than Briggs. How Briggs impressed enough to be in contention over Beer is stupid.
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Post by fraudster on Jun 30, 2016 23:01:01 GMT
Yeah that was a p**s poor chase and I can only echo echo all the thoughts on Cachopa, Briggs ect. With Salt, I reckon he needs to open with absolute freedom right now - he felt the pressure and he's pretty much a kid. We've got a serious problem with our batting after four - serious problems need addressing.
Talking of serious problems, the chase reminded me of the England footie team the other night actually - eerily void of a fundamental will, or something. A worrying lack of something very important that comes from the heart and the spine.
For me, Wright's 'sunstroke' was embarrassing and pathetic - and it set the tone for the chase. We've had three billion gallons of rainfall this summer and we get two delays because of the sun - play you joker. It happens when you drive too but you don't stop, you deal with it. The second joke was worse than the first, granted, but both episodes were shameful.
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Post by jonboy on Jul 1, 2016 0:23:41 GMT
One week it's the bowlers, the next week it's the batters. Jordan will bowl well and Mills will get carted, then Mills is unplayable and Jordan serves up a feast of half volleys. We have good players, who all have good days, and bad days, but as a team, we are tactically naive, and seem to play cricket in a way that belongs in a different era. At the start of the season, to listen to Luke and Davo, I expected Sussex to come out playing positive cricket. Sadly so far, it's been anything but.
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Post by grandavefan on Jul 1, 2016 8:51:51 GMT
BM, re Salt and Jason Roy, a little unkind to write him off. Roy's taken 4-5 years to reach a level to play for England. Salt has just started, what's he 19? Played 3 T20, 2 50 over games, be fair. Perhaps he could be the equal, potential etc. You're better than that and you know it. He's not to blame for the loss at Kent. Let's look at Nash shall we? How many runs has this seasoned T20 player scored since Somerset? Not nearly enough? Correct. How many has Machan scored in helping to win a game or set a total? Not nearly enough? Correct.
I agree that coach and captain need to have a strategy for each competition, it does need to have some flexibility but at the moment it's to flexible. Grasping at things. Easy to drop Sussex through and through Brown & Beer. Hard to drop high paid incomers? Need to take the Eddie Jones approach, pick the best, drop those that don't perform.
I thought the Davis/Wright team might change the attitude of the selection. Perhaps I was wrong? Still time to turn it round. They both need to be bold and forget reputations.
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Post by flashblade on Jul 1, 2016 8:54:55 GMT
BM, re Salt and Jason Roy, a little unkind to write him off. Roy's taken 4-5 years to reach a level to play for England. Salt has just started, what's he 19? Played 3 T20, 2 50 over games, be fair. Perhaps he could be the equal, potential etc. You're better than that and you know it. He's not to blame for the loss at Kent. Let's look at Nash shall we? How many runs has this seasoned T20 player scored since Somerset? Not nearly enough? Correct. How many has Machan scored in helping to win a game or set a total? Not nearly enough? Correct. I agree that coach and captain need to have a strategy for each competition, it does need to have some flexibility but at the moment it's to flexible. Grasping at things. Easy to drop Sussex through and through Brown & Beer. Hard to drop high paid incomers? Need to take the Eddie Jones approach, pick the best, drop those that don't perform.
I thought the Davis/Wright team might change the attitude of the selection. Perhaps I was wrong? Still time to turn it round. They both need to be bold and forget reputations. Spot on, grandavefan. Eddie Jones is fortunate not to be in charge of a 'family' team. The difference in culture is immense - and doesn't it show!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2016 9:00:38 GMT
I'm not blaming Salt, grandavefan. I actually agree with fraudster when he wrote : "With Salt, I reckon he needs to open with absolute freedom right now - he felt the pressure and he's pretty much a kid." Put him in first with Wright and give him license to take on the wide empty spaces during the power play. I'd drop Nash down to five and hope that from there he can give the innings the middle-order impetus in the final six or seven overs which, as fraudster again notes, is so seldom forthcoming with the current line-up.
And I'm certainly not criticising Salt for not being Jason Roy - although I am having a gentle and friendly little dig at the Sussex grandee who said he was!
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Post by coverpoint on Jul 1, 2016 17:05:42 GMT
Completely agree. Team seems to be selected on 'we're paying players like Cachopa and Briggs top salaries so we'd better get our money's worth' rather than picking the XI most suited to winning the game. At the moment I never want to see Briggs bowl in a Sussex shirt again. And how was Cachopa, who has barely scored a run in two years home and abroad, selected ahead of Brown, who I think scored four f/c centuries last season? One doesn't mind getting comprehensively thrashed by a better team. But that really wasn't what happened out there. Sussex had the ga me in the palm of their hand before the batsmen screwed it up. How come Jordan - one of the few Sussex bastmen who can hit a genuinely long ball - never even got to the crease? If I was one of the Sussex bowlers I'd be feeling pretty murderous towards the batsmen right now.
Are we paying them top salaries? If so we've been had and should be getting our money back! Jordan should have come in ahead of Cachopa.
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