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Post by coverpoint on Nov 25, 2016 19:29:49 GMT
The worst fixture list in the history of Sussex CCC! Just 15 hours of cricket at Hove in July and August is an absolute disgrace and no proper cricket only Mikey mouse cricket.
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Post by hhsussex on Nov 25, 2016 19:43:39 GMT
You never struck me as being that old - that transpontine air must keep you youthful Ha ha. I guess there are several claims for such a title, but I'll submit that county cricket has never enjoyed such a high standard and diversity of skills than in the era when a sizeable chunk of the World's finest players were playing day in, day out. Now that is a challenge worthy of a lengthy thread: Was 70s -90s County Cricket of a higher standard (and diversity of skills) than, for example the Inter-Wars era from Woolley through Hammond to Hutton, from Macdonald and Cecil Parkin, through Tate and Freeman, to Larwood, Bowes and Verity? How much more could be said of the lesser lights, Wellard and Andrews, Boyes of Hampshire, the Langridges, Staples, Root and Kilner? Every age and every civilization has a Golden Age that we look back upon, the lustre increasing as the direct light of actual rememberance diminishes. Some even scintillate at the mention of wet summers in the 1960s - oh my Flavell and my AB Jackson long ago - and the fastidious but immensely worthy, and thereby talented batsmen who scored runs on them: Henry Horton, Doug Padgett, Alan Jones, Arthur Milton....
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Post by flashblade on Nov 25, 2016 19:47:28 GMT
The worst fixture list in the history of Sussex CCC! Just 15 hours of cricket at Hove in July and August is an absolute disgrace and no proper cricket only Mikey mouse cricket. Yep, but not the club's fault; I guess all the counties are in the same (leaky) boat. The only consolation, hopefully, will be a reduction in the membership fee for those who don't do T20. But if the price isn't reduced, I think the club will find itself at the mercy of the laws of supply and demand. Let's see . . .
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Post by leedsgull on Nov 25, 2016 19:52:21 GMT
If it is not the clubs fault, whose is it? Did they not all vote for this ridiculous reduction in Championship matches? As a Yorkshire member I will see only 5 matches at Headingley and one of those is a farcical day/nighter in high summer when it will be light to close of play!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2016 20:03:59 GMT
Ha ha. I guess there are several claims for such a title, but I'll submit Now that is a challenge worthy of a lengthy thread: Was 70s -90s County Cricket of a higher standard (and diversity of skills) than, for example the Inter-Wars era from Woolley through Hammond to Hutton, from Macdonald and Cecil Parkin, through Tate and Freeman, to Larwood, Bowes and Verity? How much more could be said of the lesser lights, Wellard and Andrews, Boyes of Hampshire, the Langridges, Staples, Root and Kilner? Every age and every civilization has a Golden Age that we look back upon, the lustre increasing as the direct light of actual rememberance diminishes. Some even scintillate at the mention of wet summers in the 1960s - oh my Flavell and my AB Jackson long ago - and the fastidious but immensely worthy, and thereby talented batsmen who scored runs on them: Henry Horton, Doug Padgett, Alan Jones, Arthur Milton.... invicta 1977 is slightly younger than you and me, hhs, but he is clearly referring to what for him was a seminal year (1977) when Clive Lloyd, Viv Richards. Gordon Greenidge, Zaheer Abbas , Barry Richards, Alvin Kalicharran, Javed Miandad (at Sussex), Glenn Turner, Asif Iqbal, Mike Procter, Wayne Daniel, Safraz Nawaz, Clive Rice, Andy Roberts, Joel Gardner, Imran Khan (at Sussex), Bishen Bedi etc etc. were all county regulars - and played all season long, not just jetting in for a few games like today's mercenaries. I can't see how anybody can dispute his point that " county cricket has never enjoyed such a high standard and diversity of skills than in the era when a sizeable chunk of the World's finest players were playing day in, day out " - however great was the epoch of "Woolley through Hammond to Hutton, from Macdonald and Cecil Parkin, through Tate and Freeman, to Larwood, Bowes and Verity" or how a later era was compromied by the crab-like presence of "Henry Horton, Doug Padgett, Alan Jones, Arthur Milton." It was a golden age for county cricket and those of us who were around were priviliged to see it. I'd say with 100 per cent certainty that we will never see its like again...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2016 20:07:32 GMT
The only consolation, hopefully, will be a reduction in the membership fee for those who don't do T20. Dream on, fb. None of the counties that have already announced have reduced their fees , have they? So why should Sussex be any different? Teflon Rob will have to look at this for 2018. But I reckon you can guarantee that Zac the Knack will not have done so as his parting gift to the citizens of Sussex before he retires to become a Cypriot sybarite...
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Post by coverpoint on Nov 25, 2016 20:20:06 GMT
The worst fixture list in the history of Sussex CCC! Just 15 hours of cricket at Hove in July and August is an absolute disgrace and no proper cricket only Mikey mouse cricket. Yep, but not the club's fault; I guess all the counties are in the same (leaky) boat. The only consolation, hopefully, will be a reduction in the membership fee for those who don't do T20. But if the price isn't reduced, I think the club will find itself at the mercy of the laws of supply and demand. Let's see . . . Given Mayonomics Sussex will probably put the price up.
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Post by flashblade on Nov 25, 2016 20:41:57 GMT
The only consolation, hopefully, will be a reduction in the membership fee for those who don't do T20. Dream on, fb. None of the counties that have already announced have reduced their fees , have they? So why should Sussex be any different? Teflon Rob will have to look at this for 2018. But I reckon you can guarantee that Zac the Knack will not have done so as his parting gift to the citizens of Sussex before he retires to become a Cypriot sybarite... Sorry, bm, I should have used an irony emoticon! As CP has implied, May-onomics hasn't hitherto recognised the law of supply and demand in relation to membership subs.
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Post by invicta1977 on Nov 25, 2016 20:53:57 GMT
Now that is a challenge worthy of a lengthy thread: Was 70s -90s County Cricket of a higher standard (and diversity of skills) than, for example the Inter-Wars era from Woolley through Hammond to Hutton, from Macdonald and Cecil Parkin, through Tate and Freeman, to Larwood, Bowes and Verity? How much more could be said of the lesser lights, Wellard and Andrews, Boyes of Hampshire, the Langridges, Staples, Root and Kilner? Every age and every civilization has a Golden Age that we look back upon, the lustre increasing as the direct light of actual rememberance diminishes. Some even scintillate at the mention of wet summers in the 1960s - oh my Flavell and my AB Jackson long ago - and the fastidious but immensely worthy, and thereby talented batsmen who scored runs on them: Henry Horton, Doug Padgett, Alan Jones, Arthur Milton.... invicta 1977 is slightly younger than you and me, hhs, but he is clearly referring to what for him was a seminal year (1977) when Clive Lloyd, Viv Richards. Gordon Greenidge, Zaheer Abbas , Barry Richards, Alvin Kalicharran, Javed Miandad (at Sussex), Glenn Turner, Asif Iqbal, Mike Procter, Wayne Daniel, Safraz Nawaz, Clive Rice, Andy Roberts, Joel Gardner, Imran Khan (at Sussex), Bishen Bedi etc etc. were all county regulars - and played all season long, not just jetting in for a few games like today's mercenaries. I can't see how anybody can dispute his point that " county cricket has never enjoyed such a high standard and diversity of skills than in the era when a sizeable chunk of the World's finest players were playing day in, day out " - however great was the epoch of "Woolley through Hammond to Hutton, from Macdonald and Cecil Parkin, through Tate and Freeman, to Larwood, Bowes and Verity" or how a later era was compromied by the crab-like presence of "Henry Horton, Doug Padgett, Alan Jones, Arthur Milton." It was a golden age for county cricket and those of use who were around were priviliged to see it. I'd say that , quite literally, we will never see its like again... Indeed. I recognise that there's always a danger of looking back to one's youth and overstating the quality of what was on offer, but your list of luminaries does provide ample evidence. For much of the period from the late 60s to the late 80s, the county scene would have featured perhaps 50 of the planet's best 70 cricketers. Since the advent of international cricket contests, county cricket can never have been of a higher standard in relation to overall global standards. This not only provided stunning individual contests (eg Garner & Botham versus Sadiq, Zaheer & Procter) but helped some of the less fashionable counties rise from obscurity, creating a more vibrant and competitive Championship (from 1946 to 1969, eight different counties won the title; there were as many different Champions in the 1970s alone). The period was also characterised by the early excitement of limited overs cricket - three competitions enjoying mainly large crowds with two sell-out Lord's Finals every year, something that we are also unlikely to see again.
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Post by coverpoint on Nov 26, 2016 5:30:30 GMT
It's absolutely ridiculous that the second division counties will play some opponents twice and others once. Some counties will play stronger opponents twice and weaker opponents once, whilst other counties will play weaker opponents twice and stronger opponents once.
I'm all in favour of the experiment but I'm skeptical.
1. Playing conditions will no different to the days of uncovered wickets, grossly influencing the outcome. 2. The night game drinking crowd from limited overs aren't interested in the longer format 3. The current fan base won't stay out in the cold!
I'd like too be proved wrong. Let's see what happens?
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Post by hhsussex on Dec 7, 2016 6:50:03 GMT
Sussex may have more competition than the big 4 with whom we have double-headers next year. Derbyshire - one match at Hove starting 12 September - have assembled a raft of new signings, as their progressive and voicdferous chairman Chris Grant has lost no time in Tweeting:
The likes of @w_davis44 & @mattcritchley96 can only benefit from having world class team mates like @hardus_Vilj & Imran Tahir to learn from
Add in the signing of @jeevanmendis @gwilson14 & @lreece17 and with our @natwestt20blast signings still to come we look a different outfit
On paper a totally different outfit, and if it can work together it might be a successful one. Good to see some enterprise, rather than self-pity, from one of the non-Testr counties.
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Post by joe on Mar 22, 2017 10:57:45 GMT
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Post by jonboy on Mar 22, 2017 11:23:46 GMT
Sigh, here we go again Is Machan fit and ready to play in these friendlies?
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Post by joe on Mar 22, 2017 11:30:26 GMT
Sigh, here we go again Is Machan fit and ready to play in these friendlies? That's a good question jonboy. I noticed in the go karting picture recently he was the only one there not kitted out in a boiler suit, don't know if that's significant?
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Post by joe on Mar 22, 2017 16:32:43 GMT
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