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Post by joe on Apr 12, 2017 7:39:35 GMT
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Post by joe on Apr 12, 2017 18:11:02 GMT
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magik
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Post by magik on Apr 12, 2017 20:39:55 GMT
Will Beer's batting has looked promising this year. It's a shame his bowling has never quite looked good enough for the CC.
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Post by grandavefan on Apr 13, 2017 8:29:43 GMT
Very hard to judge a player who IMO has never been given a fair run of games.
His record in limited overs is as good as any. Why shouldn't he get wickets in the CC?
I believe that this year IF LW has learnt anything it is to be more positive in his team selections. Selecting 4 seamers & a spinner consistently this summer will not win this league.
Flexibility in selection will, the ability to take a risk.
He might have to drop a star! Heaven forbid we ever do something as controversial as that!
If it keeps dry, 2 spinners are a must. It doesn't matter if they get smashed sometimes, its about wickets. Control can come from the seamers.
The spinners should be seen as match winners.
If they are brave they will challenge strongly. If they aren't they will draw many and win few. A mid table finish will be the result.
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Post by joe on Apr 13, 2017 9:49:39 GMT
Very hard to judge a player who IMO has never been given a fair run of games. His record in limited overs is as good as any. Why shouldn't he get wickets in the CC? I believe that this year IF LW has learnt anything it is to be more positive in his team selections. Selecting 4 seamers & a spinner consistently this summer will not win this league. Flexibility in selection will, the ability to take a risk. He might have to drop a star! Heaven forbid we ever do something as controversial as that! If it keeps dry, 2 spinners are a must. It doesn't matter if they get smashed sometimes, its about wickets. Control can come from the seamers. The spinners should be seen as match winners. If they are brave they will challenge strongly. If they aren't they will draw many and win few. A mid table finish will be the result. I don't know what records you're looking at but Beers record in white ball cricket isn't anything to shout about. 50 matches 44 wickets @ 40.45. No 4 wkt or 5 wkt hauls. Hardly earth shattering! Plus if he was that good you'd expect him take hatfulls of wickets in 2nd XI games but he doesn't. Im not putting the man down but facts is facts. He's a good steady middle overs bowler in the 50 over stuff but a match winner he ain't. |
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magik
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Post by magik on Apr 13, 2017 10:48:10 GMT
Very hard to judge a player who IMO has never been given a fair run of games. His record in limited overs is as good as any. Why shouldn't he get wickets in the CC? I believe that this year IF LW has learnt anything it is to be more positive in his team selections. Selecting 4 seamers & a spinner consistently this summer will not win this league. Flexibility in selection will, the ability to take a risk. He might have to drop a star! Heaven forbid we ever do something as controversial as that! If it keeps dry, 2 spinners are a must. It doesn't matter if they get smashed sometimes, its about wickets. Control can come from the seamers. The spinners should be seen as match winners. If they are brave they will challenge strongly. If they aren't they will draw many and win few. A mid table finish will be the result. I personally don't think his record in limited overs is particularly great other than the fact he seems to have good control in 20/20 cricket, keeping things tight. I've also watched him bowl quite a lot in 2nd team 2/3 day cricket as well as Sussex Premier League cricket for Horsham and even there he's not really stood out. I do agree that if they do take a punt on him in the CC he needs to be given 5 games or so to really make a mark, not just the occasional game here and there. I guess with his batting looking much improved it wouldn't be such a risk. |
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Post by coverpoint on Apr 14, 2017 1:48:58 GMT
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Post by joe on Apr 17, 2017 6:30:35 GMT
I went to the lovely Blackstone ground yesterday to watch our 2's play Oxfordshire.
We got off to a flying start with Salt and Haines hitting 70 off the first 7 overs but the scoring slowed when they both went for 45 and 29 respectfully. We eventually made 218 from our 50 overs with the only other innings of note coming from Garton who came in at No10 and hit 31* including a six which cleared the pavilion.
Garton was also the pick of the bowlers taking 3 wickets in his 5 overs with pace and aggression. Whittingham,(1)Briggs (1)Sakande (2)and Beer (2)took the other wickets reducing the visitors to 113 all out.
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Apr 17, 2017 6:50:43 GMT
I watched Salt hit 76 in the friendly against Surrey last week. A very promising player. Last year Sussex tried to bring him through
to the 1st team, perhaps too early, as with other youngster batters his shot selection needs to be improved. One hopes Yardy can
help there.
What do you think of Blackstone? I hope a lot more supporters will make the journey out there this season.
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magik
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Post by magik on Apr 17, 2017 12:29:06 GMT
I watched Salt hit 76 in the friendly against Surrey last week. A very promising player. Last year Sussex tried to bring him through to the 1st team, perhaps too early, as with other youngster batters his shot selection needs to be improved. One hopes Yardy can help there. What do you think of Blackstone? I hope a lot more supporters will make the journey out there this season. I love Blackstone. Such a lovely venue for watching cricket. Parking is a bit stressful sometimes though if it's busy. Not sure how they can fit everyone in if playing two matches at the same time! |
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Post by grandavefan on Apr 18, 2017 8:28:42 GMT
Joe, I was at Blackstone as well! Wish I knew who you are I'd have had a chat. The only others I saw were Mr & Mrs Beer and I had a chat with them.
Did you talk with them?
I watched a different game to you,
Whittingham was the pick, with his perfect action for a quick bowler, grooved and efficient. Reminded me of, well I shan't say in case.
Beer's determined batting to get the team back on track gave Garton licence in the final 3 overs.
As for Gartons bowling, to me his action is going to cause problems. That slight frame and so much effort. Unless he grows I fear an injury leaden career. Pace yes, accuracy not so much.
But potential. Jon Lewis, yours to manage.
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Post by joe on Apr 18, 2017 9:28:22 GMT
Joe, I was at Blackstone as well! Wish I knew who you are I'd have had a chat. The only others I saw were Mr & Mrs Beer and I had a chat with them. Did you talk with them? I watched a different game to you, Whittingham was the pick, with his perfect action for a quick bowler, grooved and efficient. Reminded me of, well I shan't say in case. Beer's determined batting to get the team back on track gave Garton licence in the final 3 overs. As for Gartons bowling, to me his action is going to cause problems. That slight frame and so much effort. Unless he grows I fear an injury leaden career. Pace yes, accuracy not so much. But potential. Jon Lewis, yours to manage. Interesting how people can interpret things differently. I agree Whittingham is perhaps more fluent than Garton but I think you mistake effort for aggression. I see Garton as a strike bowler, a wicket taker, perhaps more suited to the shorter forms of the game. Either way they both have bright futures with Sussex and I hope we see both playing regularly as soon as possible! These are the figures for the match. Whittingham 5-0-18-1 Sakande. 4-0-11-2 Briggs. 6-1-12-1 Garton. 5-2-7-3 Beer. 6-1-15-2 I think you'll agree that Garton's accuracy wasn't in question in this game. |
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Post by Don Tmatter on Apr 24, 2017 10:08:37 GMT
Strong looking XI for 2nds today away at Essex
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Post by joe on Apr 24, 2017 10:52:49 GMT
Strong looking XI for 2nds today away at Essex Certainly is, this is what our 2nd XI should look like. Unfortunately it's what our 1st XI has looked like recently! Salt, Finch, Rawlins, Evans, Robson, Beer (c) Burgess (wk) Briggs, Garton, Whittingham, Sakande. |
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Post by joe on Apr 24, 2017 10:54:34 GMT
Essex currently 24/2, both wickets to Whittingham.
Raining on and off at the moment.
Edit: play about to resume.
Whittingham 3-0-21-2
Garton. 4-1-12-0
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