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Post by jonboy on Jun 29, 2017 7:28:04 GMT
I feel sorry for the counties on this one. They've had this bizarre idea foisted on them, and I can't imagine any of them thinking it's been a success. If the ECB want the test players to get experience of the pink ball, why not just arrange a North v South match for England players only. Then they'd get the experience at a higher level than they would in a county match. Indeed |
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Post by theleopard on Jun 29, 2017 8:07:01 GMT
So presumably Gloucestershire declare overnight and serve up a buffet for Sussex.
Sussex get around 141 off 14, Gloucestershire set around 350 off 80?
No more a fan of contriving a finish than anyone else but a day and a half has been lost and a draw is useless to either side, particularly if Worcestershire go on to win. Absolutely no point in both sides picking up a few scraps today.
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Post by flashblade on Jun 29, 2017 8:56:20 GMT
So presumably Gloucestershire declare overnight and serve up a buffet for Sussex.Sussex get around 141 off 14, Gloucestershire set around 350 off 80? No more a fan of contriving a finish than anyone else but a day and a half has been lost and a draw is useless to either side, particularly if Worcestershire go on to win. Absolutely no point in both sides picking up a few scraps today. This is match fixing. How would you feel about watching a football match where both teams need a draw, and agree in advance to play for a draw. Agreeing to go soft on the opposition isn't sport, IMO. |
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Post by philh on Jun 29, 2017 9:01:56 GMT
I've heard that next season there is a plan to play overnight matches which start at midnight and finish at 7 am. I think they plan to play without any floodlights and a ball that glows in the dark.
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Post by flashblade on Jun 29, 2017 9:05:44 GMT
I've heard that next season there is a plan to play overnight matches which start at midnight and finish at 7 am. I think they plan to play without any floodlights and a ball that glows in the dark.  Many a true word spoken in jest! |
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Post by philh on Jun 29, 2017 9:14:30 GMT
So presumably Gloucestershire declare overnight and serve up a buffet for Sussex. Sussex get around 141 off 14, Gloucestershire set around 350 off 80? No more a fan of contriving a finish than anyone else but a day and a half has been lost and a draw is useless to either side, particularly if Worcestershire go on to win. Absolutely no point in both sides picking up a few scraps today. I take your point that a draw doesn't suit either side, but there are 7 games left after this, one of which is against Worcestershire. If Kent keep crumbling, we still have a chance of going up albeit a slim one. I guess we would get 7 or 8 points from 'normal' play today, i.e. 2 or 3 bowling points and 5 for the draw. If there is an attempt to get a result, we could get 16 more points from today's play or 0 more points if we lose or Worcestershire decide to shut up shop. I am surprised captains haven't thought of it yet but the best result to manufacture would be a tie. We let Worcestershire get 358. We both then get 0 all out in the second innings. Match tied. Both teams get 15 points. Would that be cheating? |
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Post by flashblade on Jun 29, 2017 9:23:02 GMT
So presumably Gloucestershire declare overnight and serve up a buffet for Sussex. Sussex get around 141 off 14, Gloucestershire set around 350 off 80? No more a fan of contriving a finish than anyone else but a day and a half has been lost and a draw is useless to either side, particularly if Worcestershire go on to win. Absolutely no point in both sides picking up a few scraps today. I take your point that a draw doesn't suit either side, but there are 7 games left after this, one of which is against Worcestershire. If Kent keep crumbling, we still have a chance of going up albeit a slim one. I guess we would get 7 or 8 points from 'normal' play today, i.e. 2 or 3 bowling points and 5 for the draw. If there is an attempt to get a result, we could get 16 more points from today's play or 0 more points if we lose or Worcestershire decide to shut up shop. I am surprised captains haven't thought of it yet but the best result to manufacture would be a tie. We let Worcestershire get 358. We both then get 0 all out in the second innings. Match tied. Both teams get 15 points. Would that be cheating?Duh - yes!  |
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Post by theleopard on Jun 29, 2017 9:35:10 GMT
I've heard that next season there is a plan to play overnight matches which start at midnight and finish at 7 am. I think they plan to play without any floodlights and a ball that glows in the dark. That's not what I heard. What I heard is that they plan to continue with this season's policy of playing four rounds in September which start at 10.30 and finish at 5.30, with the playing days being Tuesday to Friday or Monday-Thursday. Thus excluding the majority of working people and schoolkids from being able to attend at all. |
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Post by philh on Jun 29, 2017 15:11:52 GMT
Interesting Glos 30 for 3 chasing 351. Did we cunningly make them think we couldn't bowl them out in the 1st innings?
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Post by northfan on Jun 29, 2017 15:48:17 GMT
So presumably Gloucestershire declare overnight and serve up a buffet for Sussex.Sussex get around 141 off 14, Gloucestershire set around 350 off 80? No more a fan of contriving a finish than anyone else but a day and a half has been lost and a draw is useless to either side, particularly if Worcestershire go on to win. Absolutely no point in both sides picking up a few scraps today. This is match fixing. How would you feel about watching a football match where both teams need a draw, and agree in advance to play for a draw. Agreeing to go soft on the opposition isn't sport, IMO. As the leopard said, it's a contrived finish but not match fixing. The teams have not agreed upon a certain result, but have contrived that the match may have one of 3 possible outcomes as opposed to the certainty of a draw. |
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Post by coverpoint on Jun 29, 2017 18:48:54 GMT
Awful decision by Gloucestershire to toss away five batting points and five draw points and instead opt to hand Sussex an easy victory.
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Post by joe on Jun 29, 2017 19:04:42 GMT
Awful decision by Gloucestershire to toss away five batting points and five draw points and instead opt to hand Sussex an easy victory. Easy? 16 overs to go and still need 4 wickets, a draw looking the most likely outcome. |
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Post by coverpoint on Jun 29, 2017 19:16:59 GMT
Awful decision by Gloucestershire to toss away five batting points and five draw points and instead opt to hand Sussex an easy victory. Easy? 16 overs to go and still need 4 wickets, a draw looking the most likely outcome. If it is a draw we only have ourselves a blame as did we really need to set Gloucestershire more than 300? |
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Post by flashblade on Jun 29, 2017 19:46:07 GMT
Any match where one side agrees to bowl rubbish deserves to end in a draw. None of the Glouc front line bowlers was used - why should they screw up their stats?! Even Phil Mustard was allowed to bowl!
Who said that winning was more important than the integrity of the game?
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Post by joe on Jun 29, 2017 20:11:23 GMT
And with that draw goes our chances of promotion this season.
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