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Post by joe on Jun 23, 2017 10:23:48 GMT
So the day/night pink ball experience comes to Hove on Monday.
With Ben Brown back from injury I would guess he'd start ahead of Burgess. Will Jordan be available as the final T20I is in Cardiff on Sunday?
Nash
Finch
Wells
van Zyl
Wright
Brown
Wiese
Archer
Jordan
Briggs
Whittingham/Garton/Sakande
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Post by philh on Jun 23, 2017 10:56:54 GMT
It's strange. We seem to lurch between too many pace bowlers to too few pace bowlers. If Jordan is missing, it would appear to leave a lot for Archer to do if we are going to get 20 wickets. It seems a shame that Burgess is likely to lose his place as he has done well, but I can't see how he fits in really.
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Post by coverpoint on Jun 23, 2017 11:51:49 GMT
So the day/night pink ball experience comes to Hove on Monday. With Ben Brown back from injury I would guess he'd start ahead of Burgess. Will Jordan be available as the final T20I is in Cardiff on Sunday? Nash Finch Wells van Zyl Wright Brown Wiese Archer Jordan Briggs Whittingham/Garton/Sakande I agree this should be the team with a shoot out between Sakande and Whittingham for the final seamers spot. |
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Post by jonboy on Jun 23, 2017 13:12:14 GMT
All a bit harsh on Beer after his match winning performance against SA, but again, where would he fit in
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Post by joe on Jun 23, 2017 13:21:24 GMT
All a bit harsh on Beer after his match winning performance against SA, but again, where would he fit in I agree jb but also harsh on Burgess and Rawlins. As seen against SA (A) last week we can put out a very good second team. The 2's have a double-header T20 match v Gloucester on Monday where I would expect to see Robinson continuing his rehab before he too will be in the mix. Anyone know what's happening with Machan? |
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Post by joe on Jun 23, 2017 14:02:00 GMT
Just seen Garton included in the Lions squad for next week so we can take him out of the mix too.
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Post by liquidskin on Jun 23, 2017 18:45:07 GMT
Garton probably wouldn't get in the Sussex squad but England can see it. It's astonishing and England need to get in Sussex's ear about that. That Lions team would batter Sussex and everyone on their way to winning Div One given the chance.
Beer plays instead of Briggs, obviously. You wanna contain and be negative or attack and be positive? Be brave. Another option may be both but with a gay ball in a day/night game I ain't so sure.
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Post by joe on Jun 24, 2017 8:49:06 GMT
Garton probably wouldn't get in the Sussex squad but England can see it. It's astonishing and England need to get in Sussex's ear about that. That Lions team would batter Sussex and everyone on their way to winning Div One given the chance. Beer plays instead of Briggs, obviously. You wanna contain and be negative or attack and be positive? Be brave. Another option may be both but with a gay ball in a day/night game I ain't so sure. Whether it should or shouldn't be done, it won't be done. Beer has been with Sussex for 10 years and has played 13 first class games, that tells you all you need to know. Im sure he'll feature in the T20 campaign though. |
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Post by jonboy on Jun 24, 2017 16:30:48 GMT
Garton probably wouldn't get in the Sussex squad but England can see it. It's astonishing and England need to get in Sussex's ear about that. That Lions team would batter Sussex and everyone on their way to winning Div One given the chance. Beer plays instead of Briggs, obviously. You wanna contain and be negative or attack and be positive? Be brave. Another option may be both but with a gay ball in a day/night game I ain't so sure. Sussex seconds fared better against South Africa A than the Lions did |
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Post by hhsussex on Jun 25, 2017 11:35:52 GMT
The Sussex squad is: Ben Brown © Chris Nash Harry Finch Luke Wells Stiaan van Zyl Luke Wright Chris Jordan David Wiese Jofra Archer Danny Briggs Abi Sakande Stuart Whittingham www.sussexcricket.co.uk/news-1/team-news-squad-of-12-named-for-gloucestershire-gameThat's pretty much the side that joe suggested at the head of the thread and it's hard to disagree with it. My sympathies go to Burgess, who hasn't seemed to put a foot wrong this season either as batsman or wicketkeeper, but it was always likely that with Brown returning and despite all the emphasis on all-rounders, that there would be no room for a seventh batsman. Last place is between Sakande and Whittingham, effectively a replacement for Magoffin from the previous match. A shame that the weather is turning for this experiment - last week would have been perfect, with the humid evening added to the vagaries of the pink ball offering some fine conditions for skilled swing bowlers. I'd hoped to come on Tuesday, but the latest forecast suggests the rain will start at 4 and carry on. Let's hope that it changes again, and that the other days aren't affected. |
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Post by coverpoint on Jun 25, 2017 15:40:16 GMT
Are we overdependent on Archer?
Archer 35 wickets @ 18
Philander 16 wickets @ 27 (now departed)
Jordan 10 wickets @ 44
Wiese 9 wickets @ 55
Briggs 8 wickets @ 40
Whoever plays out of Sakande or Whittingham need to step up in this match.
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Post by hhsussex on Jun 25, 2017 19:12:04 GMT
Are we overdependent on Archer? Archer 35 wickets @ 18 Philander 16 wickets @ 27 (now departed) Jordan 10 wickets @ 44 Wiese 9 wickets @ 55 Briggs 8 wickets @ 40 Whoever plays out of Sakande or Whittingham need to step up in this match. And, to be strictly accurate, how about Beer with 11 very much first class wickets at 7.36, or Sakand 6 at 14.50? And Briggs is 10 at a bit more but with a 100 thrown in. Figures are very much what you want them to be. Let us rejoice that Archer has taken a lot of wickets and that we have strong competition in the rest of the squad. |
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Post by joe on Jun 25, 2017 19:53:30 GMT
Are we overdependent on Archer? Archer 35 wickets @ 18 Philander 16 wickets @ 27 (now departed) Jordan 10 wickets @ 44 Wiese 9 wickets @ 55 Briggs 8 wickets @ 40 Whoever plays out of Sakande or Whittingham need to step up in this match. I would suggest that it isn't Whittingham or Sakande who need to step up but our senior bowlers Jordan and Wiese! Whittingham should get the nod tomorrow but as the 4th seamer he should also be protected to some degree. He had a tough time of it in his last CC game at Trent Bridge especially as we lost Magoffin half way through and picked another rookie in Barton in the same game. He's been bowling well recently for the 2's and for Scotland. Sakande is improving game on game but to my mind needs more time in the 2's. I get the feeling that Garton is being fast tracked by the ECB, much as Jimmy Anderson was at the same age. I believe Anderson only played a handful of first class games before he was thrust onto the international stage. Its a strong Lions squad for the 3 day game against SA next week but with only 5 bowlers named I think Garton has a good chance of playing. It'll be interesting to see how he goes but they obviously see something in him. |
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Post by coverpoint on Jun 25, 2017 20:18:04 GMT
Are we overdependent on Archer? Archer 35 wickets @ 18 Philander 16 wickets @ 27 (now departed) Jordan 10 wickets @ 44 Wiese 9 wickets @ 55 Briggs 8 wickets @ 40 Whoever plays out of Sakande or Whittingham need to step up in this match. And, to be strictly accurate, how about Beer with 11 very much first class wickets at 7.36, or Sakand 6 at 14.50? And Briggs is 10 at a bit more but with a 100 thrown in. Figures are very much what you want them to be. Let us rejoice that Archer has taken a lot of wickets and that we have strong competition in the rest of the squad. To be honest South Africa A were worse than an average second team. Therefore in all honesty I think any performances from this game need to be disregarded as I severely doubt Rawlins, Jenner, Beer and Sakande would be able to repeat this kind of performance against second division county opposition. Was this the worst ever A team in history to ever play on these shores? |
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Post by jonboy on Jun 26, 2017 10:08:47 GMT
And, to be strictly accurate, how about Beer with 11 very much first class wickets at 7.36, or Sakand 6 at 14.50? And Briggs is 10 at a bit more but with a 100 thrown in. Figures are very much what you want them to be. Let us rejoice that Archer has taken a lot of wickets and that we have strong competition in the rest of the squad. To be honest South Africa A were worse than an average second team. Therefore in all honesty I think any performances from this game need to be disregarded as I severely doubt Rawlins, Jenner, Beer and Sakande would be able to repeat this kind of performance against second division county opposition. Was this the worst ever A team in history to ever play on these shores? So how do you view Garton's performance for the Lions against the same opponents then? |
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