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Post by Wicked Cricket on Aug 18, 2020 21:38:10 GMT
Here is a new thread covering Jason Gillespie's departure at the end of the season. What were the primary reasons for Dizzy's decision to leave? Who should take his place? How can this new Coach transform the Sussex squad into winners once again? Here is Times cricket journalist Lizzie Ammon's personal view via a radio interview this evening on BBC Radio Sussex. www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p08nzwzr
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Post by liquidskin on Aug 18, 2020 22:08:19 GMT
I'm disappointed he hasn't been sacked. The CC has been abysmal under him and he's had the best T20 squad in the country for 2/3 years and won sweet FA. Big name big salary big nose big failure. So long.
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Post by coverpoint on Aug 18, 2020 22:56:29 GMT
I am not sorry he is leaving as we have been very poor under Gillespie in the county championship and we have failed to win t20 despite having the strongest squad.
I hope the non performing players are given one year extensions to prove whether or not they are part of the new coaches future.
Hopefully a new batting coach with a proven county cricket record will be installed for next season too.
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Post by joe on Aug 19, 2020 6:18:01 GMT
Yes I have to agree, don’t think he’ll be a huge loss although I would have been just as happy if he’d stayed as I think he was about to implement changes.
When he leaves at the end of the season I hope he takes all the deadwood with him. No point keeping players who have underperformed for the last 3 years.
I wouldn’t mind seeing Jon Lewis as head coach. He’s had a lot of coaching experience within the England set up and now might be a good time for him? I personally think he’d be a good fit.
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Post by jonboy on Aug 19, 2020 6:51:46 GMT
Yes I have to agree, don’t think he’ll be a huge loss although I would have been just as happy if he’d stayed as I think he was about to implement changes. When he leaves at the end of the season I hope he takes all the deadwood with him. No point keeping players who have underperformed for the last 3 years. I wouldn’t mind seeing Jon Lewis as head coach. He’s had a lot of coaching experience within the England set up and now might be a good time for him? I personally think he’d be a good fit. Though I dread to think what changes he might have implemented. The club is a chaotic mess, with no obvious joined up thinking For me, Rob Andrew should go as well
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Post by gmdf on Aug 19, 2020 7:04:00 GMT
Far be it for me (as a Kent fan) to intrude on private grief ( ), but when you signed Gillespie after his temporary spell at Kent, I know a lot of Kent supporters were jealous. We'd seen him work well with the players, and felt he was an excellent signing for you. His record previously at Yorkshire was pretty good too. So I have no idea what went wrong for him at Sussex. But I'm sorry to read rude personal comments about him (or indeed anyone whose job simply hasn't worked out) here. For what it's worth, I'd suggest the place to look for under performance isn't just at the coach, but at recruitment - and at Kent that's not the job of the coach. Is it at Sussex?
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Post by flashblade on Aug 19, 2020 7:57:50 GMT
I have mixed feelings about this. I was very excited when Dizzy signed for Sussex - he'd had a brilliant record with Yorkshire, so I naively assumed he could do the same for us. I don't know why he couldn't replicate his Yorkshire success with us. One thing that worried me was that he only spent the summer in England, and was back home in Oz during our winter. That made him look a bit semi-detached, and maybe not fully on top of the job. I don't know whether there were any issues at Sussex that limited his ability to build a successful squad. I still have my doubts about Greenfield.
I wish Dizzy all the best for the future. I don't think Chris Adams would be a suitable replacement.
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Post by ashingtonmartlet on Aug 19, 2020 8:16:45 GMT
Not sure Gillespie can be blamed entirely for the failings of recent seasons, as there’s clearly been a reluctance from higher up to recruit some experienced batting, instead we’ve flooded the top-order with youngsters and not surprisingly, it hasn’t worked. Would like to know who was responsible for the lack of recruitment.
Sad thing is that we had actually brought in some experience (at last) for this season, but it’s obviously been a write-off and he won’t get the chance to work with a more experienced squad over a whole season.
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Aug 19, 2020 8:22:32 GMT
My view is that Covid-19 has played a part in Gillespie's decision to step down. At present, there is a pandemic raging in some areas of Australia and this must be worrying for him and his family, if he is unable to return to the country or end up self-isolating for weeks which he did in the early part of the year. When there is so much uncertainty around, batten down the hatches is the rule, and living in your own country alongside your family without the need to travel to Europe must be an appetising prospect and one which JGs family need right now.
Covid aside the burning question is why, with his past track record, could he not re-energise the Sussex side. As others have said, we've had the best T20 side for three seasons now and although we reached Finals Day, last year was disappointing.
Perhaps, we need to look at the Club as a whole and what has gone wrong during the last 10 years. There are plenty of questions to ask.
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Post by soothsayer on Aug 19, 2020 8:46:58 GMT
I too think it's harsh to blame Gillespie and that some of the earlier comments here are overly critical of him, and perhaps too personal. It's the recruitment, I've written before that Sussex have seemed for a while to be prioritising white ball cricket in this. Financially, this may prove wonderfully prescient.... or not. But the disruption brought by Covid-19 seems to support these earlier moves. Meanwhile, Gillespie has been giving young cricketers plenty of opportunities. His successor is clearly a key appointment. It'll be interesting to see whether Sussex look within the family or chase outside inspiration.
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Post by jonboy on Aug 19, 2020 9:02:34 GMT
I have mixed feelings about this. I was very excited when Dizzy signed for Sussex - he'd had a brilliant record with Yorkshire, so I naively assumed he could do the same for us. I don't know why he couldn't replicate his Yorkshire success with us. One thing that worried me was that he only spent the summer in England, and was back home in Oz during our winter. That made him look a bit semi-detached, and maybe not fully on top of the job. I don't know whether there were any issues at Sussex that limited his ability to build a successful squad. I still have my doubts about Greenfield. I wish Dizzy all the best for the future. I don't think Chris Adams would be a suitable replacement. Re Adams, possibly not as coach no, but definitely in a position overseeing all cricket matters.
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Aug 19, 2020 9:49:31 GMT
Perhaps, the time has come to return to the "golden decade" and bring back that winning energy to the Club via our new Coach. Some say going back in time is wrong. What have Sussex CCC got to loose? I suggest this because we have three, yes three, potential coaches who all hail from the Club's glorious past. My No.1 choice is Peter Moores. When I interviewed him a few years ago for the Museum Booklet 'Revolution '97' celebrating the 21st Anniversary of the Members Rebellion, Moores specifically stated to me, he would like to return to Hove as his last Coaching job saying, "This would be the perfect full circle for me." Timing is obviously key to this. How many more years will he remain at Notts? Mark Robinson is another. Presently, out of work, he comes with a rich Sussex CCC CV, although to be fair, it was Moores' initial work that gave Robbo such a brilliant platform to work from. Finally, Chris Adams, who deserves a job at Sussex just for all his previous hard trying. Question: Would it not be amazing if all three could come together, heart and all, egos put aside, just for the Club? Moores as general coach, Robbo for bowling and Adams as the batting overseer? Oh, and Rob Andrew remains as CEO. Now that would be one helluva double combo. We can but dream.
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Post by philh on Aug 19, 2020 11:26:41 GMT
I think Jason Gillespie has done a good job with the T20 team - they have always looked competitive and sharp in most games. His team has qualified for the knock-out stages of the T20 Blast for the last two seasons, losing in the Final and in the Quarter-Finals. It's hard to ask more than that as T20 knock-out games can pivot on one bit of good luck or bad luck whereas in the qualifying stages there are enough games to even luck out. Therefore, to say you have the strongest squad for T20, which may or may not be true, never guarantees success.
The same cannot be said for the County Championship and the RLODC. The CC team has looked too weak in the top order to compete consistently, even in a relatively weak Division Two. Even the better batting totals seemed to rely all too frequently on the lower order coming up trumps.
Although the RLODC is the least preferred competition amongst most cricket supporters, the Sussex performances have generally been sub-standard during Gillespie's reign. I've not fully understood the reasons for this.
Whether Gillespie's remit was to win the T20 at the potential expense of success in the CC, I do not know. Certainly, to get that mix of youth and experience that is needed in the CC has not been achieved, but at T20, I think he has been unlucky not have achieved a bit more.
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Post by liquidskin on Aug 19, 2020 17:52:12 GMT
It's common knowledge that Gillespie's spec was 'do what you can in the CC & RLC, and win us the T20' - plain as day, Andrew virtually said as much on a com date last year, where he was also banging on about the dollar. Lose Andrew too, and how that joke Greenfield with his pathways still has a job I don't know. We need to lose the lot, it's another 97, or whenever, job. And we need the same thing - Adams & Bevan from 97. That rhymed & I wasn't even trying.
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Post by joe on Aug 19, 2020 18:57:07 GMT
Greenfield has got where he is by being a yes man. I’ve met him a few times, his conversation is limited to say the least and I would argue one of Fraudys emus has more cricketing talent. I was absolutely astonished when Sussex created the new D of C position for him.
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