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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2014 21:12:59 GMT
Thanks for the clarification, Jon.
Ben himself was pretty emphatic in 2012 that it was for "the next two years"; but perhaps that was just a press officer putting erroneous words into his mouth!
If his contract was extended for a further two years in October 2012 when he still had an entire 12 months remaining on his existing deal, then that is sensible forward planning, and I hope it is what will happen this winter with Luke Wright. Key players - and Wright and Brown certainly both qualify - should have their contracts regularly topped up with extensions well in advance of expiry to ensure they are never our of contract and the club doesn't face the Luke Wells should-I-stay-or-should-I-go tug of war.
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Post by jonfilby on Oct 30, 2014 21:54:02 GMT
Thanks for the clarification, Jon. Ben himself was pretty emphatic in 2012 that it was for "the next two years"; but perhaps that was just a press officer putting erroneous words into his mouth! If his contract was extended for a further two years in October 2012 when he still had an entire 12 months remaining on his existing deal, then that is sensible forward planning, and I hope it is what will happen this winter with Luke Wright. Key players - and Wright and Brown certainly both qualify - should have their contracts regularly topped up with extensions well in advance of expiry to ensure they are never our of contract and the club doesn't face the Luke Wells should-I-stay-or-should-I-go tug of war. Yes - agreed on all counts. |
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Post by hhsussex on Oct 30, 2014 22:14:41 GMT
Thanks for the clarification, Jon. Ben himself was pretty emphatic in 2012 that it was for "the next two years"; but perhaps that was just a press officer putting erroneous words into his mouth! If his contract was extended for a further two years in October 2012 when he still had an entire 12 months remaining on his existing deal, then that is sensible forward planning, and I hope it is what will happen this winter with Luke Wright. Key players - and Wright and Brown certainly both qualify - should have their contracts regularly topped up with extensions well in advance of expiry to ensure they are never our of contract and the club doesn't face the Luke Wells should-I-stay-or-should-I-go tug of war. Yes - agreed on all counts. So really "We try and do a lot of our dealings as late as we can, especially with our own players," should read "we ought to try and do our dealings as early as possible, in order to ensure that we retain our valuable young players"? Another bit of misreporting? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2014 22:37:37 GMT
I think that juxtaposition is a tad unfair, hh, because the two positions are not mutually exclusive - they just apply in different circumstances.
Fringe players (or 'squad players' as they would say in football) who may or may not be part of the future - and I am afraid Hatchett, Piolet and Beer all come in that category - you leave it as long as possble to commit to them while you explore other options (for example, Hatchett will move a further place down the pecking order when the signing of Mills is announced tomorrow; Beer's position might have been affected if Kent had agreed to release Tredwell).
But core players like Wright and Brown you want to sign up in advance and not let their contracts wind down. Wells also surely falls into this core category (a) because he's almost the finished article, at least as a four day batsman and (b) there are so few options to open the CC batting.
And to be fair to Robinson he had to be a little economical with the actualite in what he said; he'd have been roasted (and rightly so) if he'd blurted out the truth by saying, "we delayed as long as possible with these players because until other issues were resolved we weren't entirely sure whether we wanted or needed them" !
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Post by jim on Oct 31, 2014 9:53:28 GMT
There is constant dialogue with players and indications about contract renewals etc arise during the appraisals in the season
We rightly try to keep negotiations private. However it is not a one sided process. Players may not take up the offer of a contract extension even though it may be offered over a season in advance.They may deliberately run a contract down for a variety of reasons. Their agents are a further dimension in the mix!!
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Post by coverpoint on Nov 2, 2014 17:50:00 GMT
Any news of Luke Wells signing a new contract with Sussex?
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Post by coverpoint on Nov 2, 2014 18:01:33 GMT
I'll be delighted if they all sign up again, but spare a thought for young Callum Jackson, he's probably a victim of Matt Prior losing his central contract. If he is to move on, good luck in the future, I'm sure he'll find himself a new county Why does Jackson have to move on? I think brown and prior will both be in the first team meaning Jackson keeps wicket for the seconds. |
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Post by maxh on Nov 11, 2014 9:06:16 GMT
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Post by flashblade on Nov 11, 2014 9:09:03 GMT
It's clear from the tone of the announcement that Luke may have been wavering for a while. I wonder what finally clinched it for him.
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Post by hhsussex on Nov 11, 2014 9:09:52 GMT
Good to see, looks as if he has won his negotiation for being given a further chance in the white ball games: Sussex Captain Ed Joyce said, “....There is still so much scope for development and improvement, especially in white-ball cricket. " |
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Post by jonboy on Nov 11, 2014 9:18:36 GMT
Thrilled to bits with this news, Luke is Sussex through and through
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2014 10:05:42 GMT
Great news and assuming Prior's rehab is successful the first choice championship XI is now pretty much in place, with some strong reserves waiting in the wings:
Nash
Wells
Joyce
Cachopa
Wright
Prior
Zaidi/Tredwell
Jordan
Shahzad
Mills
Magoffin
That's a quality top six and as good a seam quartet as you will find anywhere in cricket.
The key to the balance of the side is going to be the all-rounder's berth at number seven. Whether it is Zaidi or Tredwell we need a minimum of 500 runs from that slot if we are going to be championship challengers, because however good the top six is, there will be mornings when the ball is hooping and number seven will be required to contribute strongly to the afternoon's rescue act (Ben Brown supporting Luke Wright in that record stand on the first day v Durham after we had collapsed to 115-5, was the classic example from last season..)
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Post by jonboy on Nov 11, 2014 10:16:38 GMT
Great news and assuming Prior's rehab is successful the first choice championship XI is now pretty much in place, with some strong reserves waiting in the wings: Nash Wells Joyce Cachopa Wright Prior Zaidi/Tredwell Jordan Shahzad Mills Magoffin That's a quality top six and as good a seam quartet as you will find anywhere in cricket. The key to the balance of the side is going to be the all-rounder's berth at number seven. Whether it is Zaidi or Tredwell we need a minimum of 500 runs from that slot if we are going to be championship challengers, because however good the top six is, there will be mornings when the ball is hooping and number seven will be required to contribute strongly to the afternoon's rescue act (Ben Brown supporting Luke Wright in that record stand on the first day v Durham after we had collapsed to 115-5, was the classic example from last season..) Yes the all rounders slot is really important It could of course be Ben Brown, or Prior or Yardy. On the occasions that we will have Jordan, Magoffin, Mills and Shazad available, would we really need to play a front line spinner? Agree though, whatever permutation, it looks a very strong line up, with plenty of back up options |
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Post by maxh on Nov 11, 2014 10:26:05 GMT
Wright and Prior at 5 & 6 really is an exciting prospect.
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Post by hhsussex on Nov 11, 2014 13:09:06 GMT
It is important, and an all-rounder is someone who, by definition can hold his place as a batsman or bowler. That lets out Wright, Prior and Yardy. Your second-point: we might get away with it early season provided Nash or someone can bowl quite a few ocwers of spin to keep up with the over-rate, as none of our fearsome pace quartet is noted for getting through overs quickly. Later in the year we will be in great need of a quality spinner to do what quality spinners do: bowl tight, bowl accurately, take advantage of the pitches and take wickets. |
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