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Post by liquidskin on Sept 21, 2022 9:53:42 GMT
While wickets fall everywhere, this side couldn't bowl out 10 chickens for under 300.
Bring on the goat.
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Post by devonexile on Sept 21, 2022 10:02:22 GMT
Unless I am mistaken, I believe everyone on this forum agrees with that selection. So have we all lost our senses or is it the numpties running this team? Answers on a postcard. Hudson-Prentice one of the first names on the team sheet whilst at Derbyshire, a team who have outperformed us in both the Championship and T20 this season and he can't get in our side ahead of Ibrahim, Coles, Crocombe and Hunt. He's probably already on the phone to his agent. Carter 629 runs at an average of 41.93. Coles 150 runs at 25, Ibrahim 87 runs at 12.42. Another one we are doing our best to push out the door. Currie 12 wickets at 23.91 in the three games he has played, Crocombe only one more at 51.06 in 9 games and Hunt 15 wickets at 39.53 in 7 games. Probably the best wicket and conditions Currie would have got to bowl on this season and we leave him out. I don't blame the players, although some of the shot selection wasn't too smart, I blame whoever sent this team out and effectively threw them under the bus. I think it’s a bit of an over-exaggeration to say we’re trying to push Carter out of the door just because we haven’t picked him in this match. Granted he should be playing and I’m not one to defend the powers that be, but if being left out for one match could lead to a player wanting to leave, we may as well pack up. Fair enough Ash, perhaps I have come on a bit too strong with the conspiracy theory. However, Sponge has highlighted many of the points I would have made regarding his treatment this season. He's played in nine of the Championship games, but only two in the T20 and two in the RLC and one of them was because Alsop had back spasms. He seems to be shunted in and out far too easily. Players want to play and whilst they may understand to a degree if they are omitted based on performances, then when they are producing and in Carter's case scoring runs then I suggest the opposite applies. Yes, his keeping has been left wanting and he has spilled some routine catches, but 629 runs at 41.93 and you are being left out for players with considerably less, meagre averages and not a first class hundred between them, noone can blame the lad if (and I am not suggesting this is the case) he starts to get a bit miffed. I would add may of his runs this season have been scored away from the featherbed Hove surface. I was at Cardiff and witnessed his maiden first class hundred. It is hard enough managing and keeping players happy, even more so with other bigger and more financially powerful counties circling. He should be valued and treated better. |
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Post by sussexabroad141 on Sept 21, 2022 10:48:17 GMT
Still reeling from the selection and the club mindset. Looking at the table, a win at Durham would have dragged us into mid-table mediocrity with the likes of Derbyshire, Worcs and Durham, which I would have considered progress after last year. Management have other ideas. I saw one of the comments on here suggesting that they are giving everyone a game?! This is not the U13 D's at Eastbourne, this is the County Team!
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Post by liquidskin on Sept 21, 2022 12:46:17 GMT
2nd wicket goes down to 17 year old batsman Coles. They're on the ropes now.
What don't we need next season?
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Post by ashingtonmartlet on Sept 21, 2022 16:38:47 GMT
The 2 who should have could have played Ash, then you got Rawlins, Myra & a couple of yoot to promote. No idea what your issue with depth is. It is about the attack if you wanna win games. This side cannot bowl anyone out once let alone twice. The batters failed, then succeeded, failed, might succeed again in the 2nd. When have the bowlers ever succeeded? I get Pujara, but it's the safe option. We won't enough games. The batting is good, the people picking it is not. Draw your way to the bottom 3 again next season at Pancake Hove. I'll run it by ya again in 2023. Yeah….FHP is an all-rounder and Carter a keeper-batsman, specialist batting still stops at 4. I’m talking about specialist batting. Carter played and kept and batted 5 in the last game - again, just looks too light. How many games has Hinley played? And as for two more youngsters - that’s not depth is it. I thought we were agreed that we shouldn’t have a team just full of kids all at the same time? |
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Post by joe on Sept 21, 2022 16:45:07 GMT
FHP, Carter and Currie all doing 12th man duties on the field today so none are injured.
Durham declare with a lead of 297. They’ll have 10 overs to bowl at us tonight.
We take 2 bonus points from the game.
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Post by joe on Sept 21, 2022 17:07:34 GMT
Dear oh dear oh dear……
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Post by sponge on Sept 21, 2022 17:13:40 GMT
It doesn't help when the umpires give dodgy LBWs.
Haines needs to take a look in the mirror.
Yes, he may be unhappy but he stormed off. No thought for Ibrahim trailing in his wake. I'm sorry but Haines is not ready for captaincy and motivating the younger lads.
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Post by squarepoint on Sept 21, 2022 17:23:39 GMT
Team is doing its best to settle the debate on whether we need an overseas batsman next year. It’s at times like this that you just want the season to end!
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Post by coverpoint on Sept 21, 2022 17:44:51 GMT
FHP, Carter and Currie all doing 12th man duties on the field today so none are injured. Durham declare with a lead of 297. They’ll have 10 overs to bowl at us tonight. We take 2 bonus points from the game. Fhp. Carter and currie absolutely must return for the final game. Whoever dropped them in the first place should be sacked with immediate effect. |
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Post by liquidskin on Sept 21, 2022 18:06:20 GMT
Team is doing its best to settle the debate on whether we need an overseas batsman next year. It’s at times like this that you just want the season to end! Yep, the bowlers not being able to bowl anyone out, ever, is resulting in horrendous scoreboard pressure - the batsman's worst enemy. I thought we were off for the day, what the hell happened. Go whatever way you want with the overseas the club's an utter mess. Shambolic, confusing, secretive, bewildering, & a load of other words that mean bad stuff. |
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Post by liquidskin on Sept 21, 2022 18:16:21 GMT
The 2 who should have could have played Ash, then you got Rawlins, Myra & a couple of yoot to promote. No idea what your issue with depth is. It is about the attack if you wanna win games. This side cannot bowl anyone out once let alone twice. The batters failed, then succeeded, failed, might succeed again in the 2nd. When have the bowlers ever succeeded? I get Pujara, but it's the safe option. We won't enough games. The batting is good, the people picking it is not. Draw your way to the bottom 3 again next season at Pancake Hove. I'll run it by ya again in 2023. Yeah….FHP is an all-rounder and Carter a keeper-batsman, specialist batting still stops at 4. I’m talking about specialist batting. Carter played and kept and batted 5 in the last game - again, just looks too light. How many games has Hinley played? And as for two more youngsters - that’s not depth is it. I thought we were agreed that we shouldn’t have a team just full of kids all at the same time? Your back-up should always be kids & we have four proper bat back-ups if we promote two of the best - Coles, Hinley, C-L & Rogers. The point is that if we don't have two OS bowlers we will never win a game. That's how much it's needed. In an ideal world we'd make Vince our Adams & get two OS but I'm talking about priorities. An OS bat is not priority. Look at the season man. Look at all the games, have we even bowled anyone out? We play at Hove. I think you're being short-sighted & reactive to be honest Ash. Unless your happy drawing all the time? 600 plays 500 at Hove? No thanks. |
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Post by sponge on Sept 21, 2022 18:58:31 GMT
Yeah….FHP is an all-rounder and Carter a keeper-batsman, specialist batting still stops at 4. I’m talking about specialist batting. Carter played and kept and batted 5 in the last game - again, just looks too light. How many games has Hinley played? And as for two more youngsters - that’s not depth is it. I thought we were agreed that we shouldn’t have a team just full of kids all at the same time? Your back-up should always be kids & we have four proper bat back-ups if we promote two of the best - Coles, Hinley, C-L & Rogers. The point is that if we don't have two OS bowlers we will never win a game. That's how much it's needed. In an ideal world we'd make Vince our Adams & get two OS but I'm talking about priorities. An OS bat is not priority. Look at the season man. Look at all the games, have we even bowled anyone out? We play at Hove. I think you're being short-sighted & reactive to be honest Ash. Unless your happy drawing all the time? 600 plays 500 at Hove? No thanks. Liquid, I don't disagree. But it seems very difficult to attract decent, all format all season, overseas bowlers to Hove. Any ideas? This current chap being given a run out is not good enough. Where is Atkins? Kirtley and Greenfield haven't been able to sort it out. Flower has clearly had a positive impact on our batting. Who is the bowling Flower? That's who we need. Of course everyone likes Pujara's runs. But unless he is available for all games, find someone decent who is. I strongly believe we have a very talented group of young lads, but unfortunately they have not been helped by Salisbury and Kirtley. As you say, time for change. |
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Post by squarepoint on Sept 21, 2022 19:17:29 GMT
It depends on a lot of factors including who we can recruit from other clubs, whether we can get Garton and FHP back at full throttle, what we do with the Hove wicket and which overseas players are available and for how long. Would rather have someone useful who can give us their all for a complete season than someone world class fitting us in for just a few weeks. I’d just say Pujura has been so valuable for us this year it would take a very strong alternative not to recruit him again, and as captain, if available.
Anyhow, let’s hope it is all about adding to our roster rather than losing yet more players through inept man management.
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Post by liquidskin on Sept 21, 2022 19:18:43 GMT
Yes Sponge, get ones that have just left the international scene, like Ishant.
I notice on the SCCC website two match reviews & an injury update on Crocombe that are all so threadbare it's bizarre. No quotes, coaches, players, whatever. Something is very wrong or very right - hopefully 97 is about to happen. They can't go on like this.
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