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Post by fraudster on May 14, 2015 20:28:14 GMT
Yeah Bell seems to have under achieved with a decent enough record for me too - a true enough sign of someone who scores more when it doesn't matter compared to when it does. Harsh to expect Buttler to be Prior of 2010-13. Prior wasn't Prior of 2010-13 at the present stage for Buttler but he can look back with much pride. Actually the comparison is very comparable when you compare it to its comparable self. They are very comparative. Where's Rashid? I'd look at him for this series without doubt, we know enough about Moeen. As Wood's in I'd definitely look at him.
Cook
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Post by hhsussex on May 15, 2015 15:24:36 GMT
Disappointing to see that the 2nd outing for the New Zealanders has been downgraded, with Worcestershire playing 15 men and New Zealand 14. Even so, the Worcestershire attack included Morris and Shantry who played against Sussex, as well as Leach who was 12th man, and Moeen Ali, who has taken 2 wickets so far. At tea NZ are 211-8, with only Rutherford making a decent score.
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Post by hhsussex on May 21, 2015 8:14:08 GMT
That this thread has only attracted 16 posts and just over 400 page views speaks volumes about the way that posters regard the importance of the first Tests of the summer. Overshadowed first by the debacles and missed opportunities of the West Indies tour, then by the eviction of Moores and the coinciding resolutions of the two long-running sagas, the Director of Cricket and the ill-timed intervention of Graves into l'affaire Pietersen, there is a feeling of satiety with the whole media-inflamed circus.
At another time the prospect of one of the success stories of international cricket, the rejuvenated New Zealand side with their exciting brand of cricket, full of players seemingly effortless in making the transition from T20 to the 5 day game and bringing their new skills with them would be gripping. We ought by rights to be revelling in the opportunity for a new England to show how well it has learned the lessons of the past and by doing so, to engage and overcome this new force and in so doing set up the scene for a gripping and enthralling Ashes contest in high summer. As if.......
We have a team that has hardly played any cricket, with the exception of the West Indies Tests, since March, captained by a man who has no strategy other than to react to incidents in the field and to build his own innings and hope that someone else will step up to follow him. There is a sense that this is not the important battle, that these are not the players we want to fight in it, that the successors of Cook and of others in and around the side are those we truly want to see and to empathise with. Root's team, under Gillespie (perhaps) with a new set of bowlers and a dynamic link with the exciting play in the championship is what we are waiting for.
But still, its a lovely spring morning and Lord's will be full of happy punters shelling out their £100 plus for the day - that's the cheap seats and their train fares and sandwiches from Pret - and I'm sure good old Tuffers and Blowers will be waxing maudlin long before England are 65-3 at lunch or New Zealand put on the fifty in the 10th over. I hope I'm wrong about all these things, of course, but there has been still more innocence drained out of the game in the past few months, and that may never return.
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Post by flashblade on May 21, 2015 8:33:16 GMT
That this thread has only attracted 16 posts and just over 400 page views speaks volumes about the way that posters regard the importance of the first Tests of the summer. Overshadowed first by the debacles and missed opportunities of the West Indies tour, then by the eviction of Moores and the coinciding resolutions of the two long-running sagas, the Director of Cricket and the ill-timed intervention of Graves into l'affaire Pietersen, there is a feeling of satiety with the whole media-inflamed circus. At another time the prospect of one of the success stories of international cricket, the rejuvenated New Zealand side with their exciting brand of cricket, full of players seemingly effortless in making the transition from T20 to the 5 day game and bringing their new skills with them would be gripping. We ought by rights to be revelling in the opportunity for a new England to show how well it has learned the lessons of the past and by doing so, to engage and overcome this new force and in so doing set up the scene for a gripping and enthralling Ashes contest in high summer. As if....... We have a team that has hardly played any cricket, with the exception of the West Indies Tests, since March, captained by a man who has no strategy other than to react to incidents in the field and to build his own innings and hope that someone else will step up to follow him. There is a sense that this is not the important battle, that these are not the players we want to fight in it, that the successors of Cook and of others in and around the side are those we truly want to see and to empathise with. Root's team, under Gillespie (perhaps) with a new set of bowlers and a dynamic link with the exciting play in the championship is what we are waiting for. But still, its a lovely spring morning and Lord's will be full of happy punters shelling out their £100 plus for the day - that's the cheap seats and their train fares and sandwiches from Pret - and I'm sure good old Tuffers and Blowers will be waxing maudlin long before England are 65-3 at lunch or New Zealand put on the fifty in the 10th over. I hope I'm wrong about all these things, of course, but there has been still more innocence drained out of the game in the past few months, and that may never return. sums up my views perfectly, hhs. |
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2015 10:56:37 GMT
I make that Lyth c Moores b Trott.
Should have been playing his fourth Test, not making his debut on an overcast morning at Lords in May with one of the best new ball attacks in the world hooping the ball all over the place...
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Post by mrsdoyle on May 21, 2015 19:54:02 GMT
:)Feeling very confident we are going to win back the ashes now.
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Post by fraudster on May 21, 2015 21:05:49 GMT
Super Root, super Stokes and super Buttler. Thankfully none of them are the 'old guard' so it's particularly pleasing to see them do well - there's a chunk of our future and it's very good. More concerned about what's coming through in the bowling to be fair, especially spin. Ali is neither a spinner or an eight - he is a batsman. Knew CJ was a gonner and I suspect he'll never wear an England shirt again, which is great for Sussex if I'm right.
Cook is a gonner too, as a captain at least. I can smell it in the air, my spidy sense is tingling, he's so gone - at the end of the summer. And thank f**k too, boring muppet. And Bell, yeah bye. We have quality young players and I can think of five batters who aren't even in the squad that I would sooner see in that side than Cook or Bell. Broad? He's lucky the conveyor belt is serving up a few duds right now.
Good day's play.
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Post by leedsgull on May 22, 2015 15:23:45 GMT
Why do England always put the new boy at short leg? Adam Lyth is comfortably the best slip fielder available yet he is being wasted. Last season he was the leading fielder in the country with catches caught and he fields 2nd slip for Yorkshire. I am sure he would have caught the catch Bell dropped. Use the resources available please.
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Post by hhsussex on May 22, 2015 16:04:03 GMT
Why do England always put the new boy at short leg? Adam Lyth is comfortably the best slip fielder available yet he is being wasted. Last season he was the leading fielder in the country with catches caught and he fields 2nd slip for Yorkshire. I am sure he would have caught the catch Bell dropped. Use the resources available please. Yes that was odd. In the West Indies Jordan held some superb catches in the slips - as he does for Sussex - and Bell was short-leg. |
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Post by mrsdoyle on May 22, 2015 17:51:47 GMT
:)Feeling very confident we are going to win back the ashes now. Ok, feeling less confident now lol. |
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Post by mrsdoyle on May 24, 2015 22:15:08 GMT
So few comments here, is no one else watching? Some reasons for cautious optimism, I think we are playing better this year than we did against, IMHO, a poorer NZ side 3 years ago. And so nice to see our coach laughing and joking on the balcony with Root, OK, so England have not given their coach much to laugh about in recent years but would Flowers or Moores have joined in a joke?
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Post by hhsussex on May 25, 2015 5:21:37 GMT
So few comments here, is no one else watching? Some reasons for cautious optimism, I think we are playing better this year than we did against, IMHO, a poorer NZ side 3 years ago. And so nice to see our coach laughing and joking on the balcony with Root, OK, so England have not given their coach much to laugh about in recent years but would Flowers or Moores have joined in a joke? Good points Mrs D. Yes, we are certainly playing more attractively and with greater zest for the fight. Cook's captaincy will not improve - because imaginative thinking isn't instinctual to him - but at least he has come back into form at the right time and played a very good innings. Root is very obviously now the king in waiting, capable of elegance but also with a sense of fun, and Stokes has played with great muscularity and mostly very good timing. He should have had wickets too. Wood looks like a real hope for the future and Moeen Ali is learning quickly from his mistakes in batting, and developing all the time as a bowler. As for Farbrace, I'm already grateful to him that he has reversed the practice of his predecessors and released the unwanted bowler from the squad immediately back to his county to get the bowling he needs! |
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Post by mrsdoyle on May 25, 2015 17:08:13 GMT
Well, went pretty well I thought, at last England are showing guts and a sense of fun and I want to support them. Are Australia getting just a little bit worried?
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Post by Wicked Cricket on May 25, 2015 18:27:16 GMT
MrsD,
Time for England supporters to reunite now after the KP debacle. Stokes is the next
Flintoff and Cook has his mojo back. A great fight back. Let's hope this continues.
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Post by hhsussex on May 25, 2015 21:20:02 GMT
In the end the game gripped and stole back that cynicism and gave a feeling of what could be, rather than the dreary lurching from complacency to inevitable depression that the West Indies adventure induced. Cook's leadership is entirely dependent on his batting form, that much is now clear, but if that can hold through the summer as well as it did in this match we may have a chance. And Root is clearly the prince over the water while even now girlish hearts in newspaper offices throughout the nation are swooning over Ben (the new Bothoff, or Flintham) Stokes. Even better Moeen Ali found new ways of impressing as batsman, bowler and fielder, and Mark Wood has shown us a different kind of fast bowling option.
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