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Post by coverpoint on Jun 9, 2015 17:44:52 GMT
A massive wicket. Guptill showed in the world cup what he could do. NZ really up against it now. NZ are not strong enough in depth to leave out Southee and Anderson and so this exciting new England team should hopefully win.
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Post by mrsdoyle on Jun 9, 2015 19:45:02 GMT
Amazing, just amazing, well done New England aka team Farbrace, the kids done good.
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Post by coverpoint on Jun 9, 2015 20:13:10 GMT
Fantastic performance from Root, Buttler, Rashid, Finn and Morgan. Hopefully this is the start of things to come.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2015 20:40:28 GMT
Amazing, just amazing, well done New England aka team Farbrace, the kids done good. Trevor Baylis is a very lucky man because it looks as though he is going to inherit a team - or a one day side, at least - that is already on the way up, instead of having to start from scratch, asd it appeared that he might . And Farbrace (and I suppose Strauss to some extent) should take great credit for that. What they have already brought about in the short time since Moores was sacked is nothing less than a complete change of culture, already dubbed 'New England' in the Sky commentary box. I don't particularly want to harp on about the past, but today really emphasised that Downton and Moores were so totally the wrong men in the wrong jobs at the wrong time, advocating a prehistoric form of cricket that was as doomed as the dinosaurs. It won't always go as well as it did today and in the next game it might be NZ who post 400. But as long as 'New England' go for it in their 'new' style, I don't think anyone wiill mind losing. I'm convinced that the problem most of us have had with England over the last couple of years is not the poor results, but the style of play and the miserable, Gradgrind attitude that seemed to be based on a belief that cricket isn't played for pleasure - theirs or ours - it's just a job. Win or lose, McCullum and company give the impression that they're having fun. Even after an absolute whipping, McCullum was so cheerful and honest and still positive in the post-match interview. I'd like to see Morgan take the same attitude when England lose instead of the defensive, cautious crap he came out with during the World Cup (and which he presumably learnt from Cook and Moores). |
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Post by fraudster on Jun 9, 2015 22:46:08 GMT
Great, but two months too late really. These players existed at the last world cup I think but... Sorry to be negative. Think CP's post was more relevant than negative myself - why the hell isn't Taylor in? He's done loads in one-day cricket for club and country, a leader too, so what's that about? Pick form players, obviously, there's loads ahead of Billings. Willey at seven would have been bad for balance too, too many bowlers. We're one player from the perfect side and I'm surprised Taylor wasn't at three, with Root four and Morgan five but whateveeeeeeeeeeeeeeeer.
Buttler's a special player.
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Post by mrsdoyle on Jun 10, 2015 14:53:04 GMT
Agree, we might get hammered next time, as Morgan said we have to produce performances like this consistently, but if we never try to we never will, also McCallum was a gent at the post match interview
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2015 19:44:34 GMT
Agree, we might get hammered next time, as Morgan said we have to produce performances like this consistently, but if we never try to we never will, also McCallum was a gent at the post match interview He was, wasn't he? If the PCA ever wants to make a video for its members entitled 'How to be gracious in defeat' , all they need to do is to show McCullum's post-match interview. A brilliant cricketer and an equally engaging man who, despite playing the game as hard as nails on the pitch, surely doesn't have a single enemy off it. Young Buttler came over amazingly well in his interview, too. Racial stereotypes, perhaps, but I couldn't help feeling that he represents the very best aspects of the famously phlegmatic English character. His modesty in his success was straight out of Kipling's If. What he probably doesn't need is the hero worship of over-excitable hacks like Dobell, who has today swapped his Trott groupiedom for a declaration of man-love for Buttler, whom he is now hailing as England's best-ever one day batsman (http://www.espncricinfo.com/england-v-new-zealand-2015/content/story/885679.html). Fortunately, I think Buttler is grounded enough in an unfashionable and old-fashioned stoicism not to be distracted by the siren voices of modern-day celebritocracy adulation. |
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Post by mrsdoyle on Jun 11, 2015 19:47:52 GMT
Agreed that Buttler too spoke very well, very refreshing to listen to.
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Post by hhsussex on Jun 12, 2015 15:15:52 GMT
New England or old England, it looks as if CJ is going to go for a hundred, and New Zealand have got over their stage fright. It helped that McCullum made the right decision this time.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2015 18:20:44 GMT
It won't always go as well as it did today and in the next game it might be NZ who post 400. But as long as 'New England' go for it in their 'new' style, I don't think anyone wiill mind losing. Well we're really going for it; I reckon NZ will need to bowl us out to stop us winning. New Dawn, New England - and New Coach hasn't even arrived yet! Just shows what utter and total crap Downton and Moores were with their prehistoric cricket, like playing 78s on a wind-up gramophone in an age of digital downloads... |
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Post by mrsdoyle on Jun 12, 2015 21:53:15 GMT
DL is rubbish isn't it!
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Post by flashblade on Jun 13, 2015 6:35:47 GMT
Yep - trouble is that it was designed for 50 over cricket. It seems to produce silly answers when it's used for T20. |
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Post by coverpoint on Jun 13, 2015 15:07:26 GMT
Trouble is we lost too many wickets! |
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Post by mrsdoyle on Jun 13, 2015 15:32:26 GMT
Trouble is we lost too many wickets! DL was created in the days when 240 was a top notch score in a 50 over game, now it's peanuts, and 9,10,11 can bat well. It needs revising and fast, and an entirely different set of tables created for T20. |
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Post by hhsussex on Jun 14, 2015 16:09:49 GMT
New England didn't last long. A bout of slogging was cut short with overs wanting - never a good idea - and the bowling isn't good enough to stop New Zealand from staging a win at cruising speed. Buttler drops a crucial catch, Rashid isn't even as good as Moeen Ali, and the team hasn't gelled.
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