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Post by jonboy on Apr 22, 2015 15:00:57 GMT
If Mills and Nash are both fit, this would be my eleven
Nash Wells Machan Joyce Cachopa Wright Brown Shahzad Magoffin Mills Hobden
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Post by jonboy on Apr 22, 2015 15:03:51 GMT
Although this is the same eleven lining up as I'd really like Don't think it will happen though
Nash Machan Wright Joyce Cachopa Wells Brown Shahzad Magoffin Mills Hobden
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Post by freddy838 on Apr 22, 2015 15:29:12 GMT
I'm not sure what they'd do if Mills isn't fit. Is Liddle a realistic option? Sakande or one of the other seamers playing for the unis? Beer?
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Post by coverpoint on Apr 22, 2015 17:14:10 GMT
Nash Yardy (Wells if Yardy is not well again, Joyce to field at slip rather than Cachopa) Machan Joyce Cachopa Wright Brown Shahzad Magoffin Mills Hobden
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Post by hhsussex on Apr 23, 2015 7:21:15 GMT
If Nash is fit then he should certainly return. The problem is who he should open with. For three years we have regarded Wells and Nash as the opening pair of choice and whenever fit they have played together. They have made a few good scores as a partnership, but have performed much better individually. It seems that Wells in particular is finding it increasingly difficult to maintain consistency from the opening position. He is a good player, and no doubt his form will come back, but two hard-fought wins against newly-promoted sides should not blind us to the need to get the innings thoroughly established from the beginnings without putting pressure on the middle-order to come to our rescue.
There are no obvious openers clamouring for places from the Second Eleven, but we know that Joyce does the job very well, though he prefers batting at 3 or 4. I would suggest that Machan, who was batting as early as the 6th over on Sunday, could be well equipped to give us an aggressive and productive start. Wells could slip back down to 5 or 6 and rediscover his form there away from the new ball. His bowling seems to have come on this year and whilst he doesn't have the control necessary to keep batsmen pinned down he does have the knack of taking wickets and that might be a good short-term strategy, although I think Sussex have to find a specialist spinner from somewhere if they are ever to make a serious challenge for the Championship.
The other places in doubt are Mills, presumably to be rested and to have his ankle or back problems thoroughly diagnosed and cleared before relying on him as a spearhead, Yardy and Zaidi. If Yardy is well again there might be a contest between him and Cachopa for one middle-order place, and it is a good sign of the current batting strength that this should be so. Cachopa had a stinker with bat and with catching, but he impressed so much last season and in the winter in New Zealand that it seems just like a bad blip that he will recover from - and perhaps do some extra fielding practice. It might be better for Yardy to sit out a game or so and get himself well again before the start of the T20s next month. That leaves Zaidi, and given the strength of the batting and the minimal requirements for spin at Durham, it doesn't look as if there is a place for him this time.
If Mills is unfit or to be rested, then we are a pace bowler short. That could mean a return for Piolet or an outing for one of the recent triallists. Ollie Robinson impressed in the Seconds game against Middlesex with 100 and 5 wickets in the match, and Craig Young, of Ireland, took 7.
Possible team:
Nash Machan Cachopa Joyce Wright Wells Brown Shahzad Robinson Magoffin Hobden 12th: Piolet
Weather forecast is pretty dire after the sunny southern drought, with a high of 7 degrees and light sleet predicted for Sunday and perhaps rain again on Tuesday and Wednesday.
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Post by jonboy on Apr 23, 2015 11:50:34 GMT
If Nash is fit then he should certainly return. The problem is who he should open with. For three years we have regarded Wells and Nash as the opening pair of choice and whenever fit they have played together. They have made a few good scores as a partnership, but have performed much better individually. It seems that Wells in particular is finding it increasingly difficult to maintain consistency from the opening position. He is a good player, and no doubt his form will come back, but two hard-fought wins against newly-promoted sides should not blind us to the need to get the innings thoroughly established from the beginnings without putting pressure on the middle-order to come to our rescue. There are no obvious openers clamouring for places from the Second Eleven, but we know that Joyce does the job very well, though he prefers batting at 3 or 4. I would suggest that Machan, who was batting as early as the 6th over on Sunday, could be well equipped to give us an aggressive and productive start. Wells could slip back down to 5 or 6 and rediscover his form there away from the new ball. His bowling seems to have come on this year and whilst he doesn't have the control necessary to keep batsmen pinned down he does have the knack of taking wickets and that might be a good short-term strategy, although I think Sussex have to find a specialist spinner from somewhere if they are ever to make a serious challenge for the Championship. The other places in doubt are Mills, presumably to be rested and to have his ankle or back problems thoroughly diagnosed and cleared before relying on him as a spearhead, Yardy and Zaidi. If Yardy is well again there might be a contest between him and Cachopa for one middle-order place, and it is a good sign of the current batting strength that this should be so. Cachopa had a stinker with bat and with catching, but he impressed so much last season and in the winter in New Zealand that it seems just like a bad blip that he will recover from - and perhaps do some extra fielding practice. It might be better for Yardy to sit out a game or so and get himself well again before the start of the T20s next month. That leaves Zaidi, and given the strength of the batting and the minimal requirements for spin at Durham, it doesn't look as if there is a place for him this time. If Mills is unfit or to be rested, then we are a pace bowler short. That could mean a return for Piolet or an outing for one of the recent triallists. Ollie Robinson impressed in the Seconds game against Middlesex with 100 and 5 wickets in the match, and Craig Young, of Ireland, took 7. Possible team: Nash Machan Cachopa Joyce Wright Wells Brown Shahzad Robinson Magoffin Hobden 12th: Piolet Weather forecast is pretty dire after the sunny southern drought, with a high of 7 degrees and light sleet predicted for Sunday and perhaps rain again on Tuesday and Wednesday. Ive been saying for a while now that Machan is potentially the best partner for Nash to open the innings. If Nash and Wells don't give us the solidity we'd like from an opening pair, then I'd like us to try something different. Nash and Machan would get after the bowlers early on and unsettle them from the start It's a different approach, but not unlike the way the Australians play the game. Positive cricket, I think they call it. With Joyce, Wright, Cachopa and Wells to follow, we have a batting line up to test most attacks. It may just be a case of tweaking the order. i do like the look of your line up and young Robinson might be the guy, not only for Durham, but to eventually bat in the top six, thus enabling us to recruit an OS spinner when Mags qualifies as a domestic player
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Post by leedsgull on Apr 23, 2015 14:40:04 GMT
Robinson has only really played limited overs cricket at a high level so do not have any great expectations on him in 4 day cricket.
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Post by hhsussex on Apr 25, 2015 7:55:59 GMT
Squad announced www.sussexcricket.co.uk/news-1/preview-sussex-aim-for-three-out-of-three-at-durham as: BC Brown (wkt) C Cachopa HZ Finch ME Hobden EC Joyce (c) MW Machan SJ Magoffin CD Nash SA Piolet OE Robinson A Shahzad LWP Wells LJ Wright As expected, no Mills because of his problems in the Worcestershire game "and his workload continues to be managed", Anyon, Hatchett and Prior injured and Yardy ill. Ollie Robinson "has joined on an initial short-term basis". Noted also that Finch, along with Piolet, is billed as an all-rounder, so last place could be between those three. Robinson didn't look to have much pace when he bowled in the second innings of the practice game against Surrey, but a nice, smooth action. None opf them will provide much fire and it is likely that whoever is there will be sopping up the extra overs for Shahzad, Magoffin and Hobden.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2015 8:00:13 GMT
So Zaidi and Mills drop out and Nash returns. Still no Yardy
According to Steve Hollis, Robinson will be in the final XI (indeed, not much point in signing him and sending him all the way to Durham if he wasn't going to play).
SH tweets: "Former @yorkshireccc seamer Ollie Robinson joins @sussexccc on a short term basis. Set to make debut at @durhamcricket tomorrow"
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2015 8:03:10 GMT
Looks like:
Nash Wells Machan Joyce Cachopa Wright Brown Robinson Shahzad Magoffin Hobden
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Post by jonboy on Apr 25, 2015 8:14:20 GMT
Good side that, I reckon. If it's still a seamer friendly place, perhaps Robinson's reduced pace may be what's needed.
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Post by timbo1988 on Apr 25, 2015 8:18:49 GMT
I would have saved budget on Robinson and asked him to perform consistently in 2nds before giving a contract! Would have played beer at 8 in this game and waited for Anyon, mills and Hatchett to be fit!
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Post by pompeymeowth on Apr 25, 2015 9:25:25 GMT
Me too, but Billy never seems to get much of a look in. Maybe Robbo liked the name.
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Post by leedsgull on Apr 25, 2015 9:57:10 GMT
Think it will be a case of whoever can survive artic conditions the best. Hope they have brought plenty of thermals and hand warmers.
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Post by hhsussex on Apr 25, 2015 10:30:45 GMT
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