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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2014 9:50:00 GMT
But can you tell us why Davis briefed the gentlemen in the press box at Taunton that Sussex was "actively" seeking a batsman on loan and four days later another club official contradicts him?
It can only be destabilising for the existing players to be told by the coach on Tuesday that the club is trying to bring in a batsman and then to be told it isn't true.
By the way, there's a bloke by the name of Goodwin down in Wales who has been dropped from the Glamorgan side today. But (a) we're not looking and (b) even if we were, he's not scoring any runs which is why he can't get in a second division side!
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Post by jonfilby on Jun 15, 2014 9:51:12 GMT
So this wasn't true and Mark Davis never said it? Or that Mark Robinson has overruled Mark Davis? BBC Radio Sussex's Adrian Harms: Injuries to Michael Yardy, Luke Wells and Jon Lewis, as well as Test call-ups for Chris Jordan and Matt Prior, mean the squad is stretched to the limit, and coach Mark Davis said they are actively looking at a loan signing to bolster the batting options.www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cricket/27773687I'm afraid this typifies the sense of drift that seems to be afflicting the club at present. Davis tells BBC Radio Sussex that the coaching staff are "actively looking at a loan signing to bolster the batting options" and informs Dobell we are "scouring" the loan market. Four days later the club's vice-chairman says he's talking bunkum. Meanwhile Sussex supporters are left not knowing who or what to believe as we go into the game v Somerset tomorrow seeking to avoid our sixth defeat in seven matches since the match-fixing shame plunged us all into gloom and despondency. And if we're not "actively looking at a loan signing" as Davis erroneously believed four days ago, then why not? Other counties do it and in recent days both Gloucestershire and Leicestershire - two counties considerably poorer than Sussex - have taken players on loan to cover an injury crisis. Perhaps we could find a batsman from the Lancashire League. On second thoughts, perhaps not. If not a batsman, though, could it be that we have instead switched the priority to signing a spinner on loan? Tredwell again left out of the Kent squad to face Glamorgan in the LVCC tomorrow. It would be great to see him at Arundel on Monday instead... You really do specialise in poison on these occasions BM.
Surely you understand why loan signings are not a matter for public speculation by the club.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2014 9:56:27 GMT
I'm afraid this typifies the sense of drift that seems to be afflicting the club at present. Davis tells BBC Radio Sussex that the coaching staff are "actively looking at a loan signing to bolster the batting options" and informs Dobell we are "scouring" the loan market. Four days later the club's vice-chairman says he's talking bunkum. Meanwhile Sussex supporters are left not knowing who or what to believe as we go into the game v Somerset tomorrow seeking to avoid our sixth defeat in seven matches since the match-fixing shame plunged us all into gloom and despondency. And if we're not "actively looking at a loan signing" as Davis erroneously believed four days ago, then why not? Other counties do it and in recent days both Gloucestershire and Leicestershire - two counties considerably poorer than Sussex - have taken players on loan to cover an injury crisis. Perhaps we could find a batsman from the Lancashire League. On second thoughts, perhaps not. If not a batsman, though, could it be that we have instead switched the priority to signing a spinner on loan? Tredwell again left out of the Kent squad to face Glamorgan in the LVCC tomorrow. It would be great to see him at Arundel on Monday instead... You really do specialise in poison on these occasions BM.
Surely you understand why loan signings are not a matter for public speculation by the club.
Davis speculated publicly about bringing in a loan player, didn't he? And what is "poisonous" about picking up on his comment and wondering who might be such a target? I really think you should reconsider your rash and intemperate words there and edit accordingly. |
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Post by jonfilby on Jun 15, 2014 9:56:49 GMT
But can you tell us why Davis briefed the gentlemen in the press box at Taunton that Sussex was "actively" seeking a batsman on loan and four days later another club official contradicts him? It can only be destabilising for the existing players to be told by the coach on Tuesday that the club is trying to bring in a batsman and then to be told it isn't true. By the way, there's a bloke by the name of Goodwin down in Wales who has been dropped from the Glamorgan side today. But (a) we're not looking and (b) even if we were, he's not scoring any runs which is why he can't get in a second division side! Briefing gentlemen in press boxes is from your world BM not Davo's.
The reason I said we are not signing a batsman on loan is because I know it to be a fact and I extremely misguidedly thought it helpful to tell you all.
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Post by jonfilby on Jun 15, 2014 10:02:28 GMT
You really do specialise in poison on these occasions BM.
Surely you understand why loan signings are not a matter for public speculation by the club.
Davis speculated publicly about bringing in a loan player, didn't he? And what is "poisonous" about picking up on his comment and wondering who might be such a target? I really think you should reconsider your rash and intemperate words there and edit accordingly. There is no poison in speculating who we might sign on loan and no drift in me responding to that speculation. Thank you for helping me clarify that.
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Post by hhsussex on Jun 15, 2014 10:09:34 GMT
But can you tell us why Davis briefed the gentlemen in the press box at Taunton that Sussex was "actively" seeking a batsman on loan and four days later another club official contradicts him? It can only be destabilising for the existing players to be told by the coach on Tuesday that the club is trying to bring in a batsman and then to be told it isn't true. By the way, there's a bloke by the name of Goodwin down in Wales who has been dropped from the Glamorgan side today. But (a) we're not looking and (b) even if we were, he's not scoring any runs which is why he can't get in a second division side! Briefing gentlemen in press boxes is from your world BM not Davo's.
The reason I said we are not signing a batsman on loan is because I know it to be a fact and I extremely misguidedly thought it helpful to tell you all.
It doesn't seem that your forte is briefing club supporters, Mr Filby. Perhaps its the habit you have of posting short, pithy comments such as "Robbo is not looking for an on-loan bastman", then getting affronted at the questions that these sort of remarks inevitably provoke. It would have been more helpful if you had said straight away something like "Don't be misled by Mark Davis's comments to Radio Sussex, which weren't meant to imply commitment to going for a loan player so much as the prospect of looking at different options. We've now decided not to follow that course and are confident our existing resources are fit enough and good enough to meet all our needs". That way people don't get involved in misunderstandings. |
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Post by jonfilby on Jun 15, 2014 10:16:23 GMT
Briefing gentlemen in press boxes is from your world BM not Davo's.
The reason I said we are not signing a batsman on loan is because I know it to be a fact and I extremely misguidedly thought it helpful to tell you all.
It doesn't seem that your forte is briefing club supporters, Mr Filby. Perhaps its the habit you have of posting short, pithy comments such as "Robbo is not looking for an on-loan bastman", then getting affronted at the questions that these sort of remarks inevitably provoke. It would have been more helpful if you had said straight away something like "Don't be misled by Mark Davis's comments to Radio Sussex, which weren't meant to imply commitment to going for a loan player so much as the prospect of looking at different options. We've now decided not to follow that course and are confident our existing resources are fit enough and good enough to meet all our needs". That way people don't get involved in misunderstandings. Yes - I agree although the statement you suggest would also have been inaccurate.
I tend to sneak on the messageboard for a quick peek and use it as a barometer for opinion about Sussex Cricket, dash off a comment and then move on to something else. I genuinely thought it helpful but it does seem that it isn't. I will try to resist.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2014 10:26:14 GMT
perhaps Jon should send a draft post to HH & BM to get their approval of the wording before it is submitted on here. Maybe Mark Davis should get a briefing from them before any radio interview
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Post by flashblade on Jun 15, 2014 10:37:08 GMT
perhaps Jon should send a draft post to HH & BM to get their approval of the wording before it is submitted on here. Maybe Mark Davis should get a briefing from them before any radio interviewThat's a daft comment. Mark Davis says one thing, then JF contradicts him. Despite several promptings, JF declines to explain the discrepancy, and his attempts to side step the question only add to the confusion. Come on Jon - if you don't feel free to discuss these issues, that's fine. But if you do feel free, let's have straightforward answers, please. Thanks. |
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Post by hhsussex on Jun 15, 2014 10:37:58 GMT
It doesn't seem that your forte is briefing club supporters, Mr Filby. Perhaps its the habit you have of posting short, pithy comments such as "Robbo is not looking for an on-loan bastman", then getting affronted at the questions that these sort of remarks inevitably provoke. It would have been more helpful if you had said straight away something like "Don't be misled by Mark Davis's comments to Radio Sussex, which weren't meant to imply commitment to going for a loan player so much as the prospect of looking at different options. We've now decided not to follow that course and are confident our existing resources are fit enough and good enough to meet all our needs". That way people don't get involved in misunderstandings. Yes - I agree although the statement you suggest would also have been inaccurate.
I tend to sneak on the messageboard for a quick peek and use it as a barometer for opinion about Sussex Cricket, dash off a comment and then move on to something else. I genuinely thought it helpful but it does seem that it isn't. I will try to resist.
I'm glad you do use it as a barometer, Jon, and I hope that is helpful to you and your colleagues. I think the problem with some very brief comments, and particularly given the recent history of this board and the delinquent behaviour of some departed posters, is that they can easily be misunderstood and your position does carry a certain weight and naturally anything you post automatically implies a certain gravitas. Don't therefore, please, be offended if you do get follow ups, because there are unanswered questions. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2014 10:41:02 GMT
Thanks, flashblade
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Post by jonfilby on Jun 15, 2014 10:46:57 GMT
perhaps Jon should send a draft post to HH & BM to get their approval of the wording before it is submitted on here. Maybe Mark Davis should get a briefing from them before any radio interviewThat's a daft comment. Mark Davis says one thing, then JF contradicts him. Despite several promptings, JF declines to explain the discrepancy, and his attempts to side step the question only add to the confusion. Come on Jon - if you don't feel free to discuss these issues, that's fine. But if you do feel free, let's have straightforward answers, please. Thanks. I really don't understand this. On the one hand I accept criticism about over simple statements and now I am not being straightforward. What is it about the fact that davo said we are keeping our options open and a couple of days later I said we are not considering a batsman that is not straightforward? |
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Post by jonfilby on Jun 15, 2014 10:52:24 GMT
Yes - I agree although the statement you suggest would also have been inaccurate.
I tend to sneak on the messageboard for a quick peek and use it as a barometer for opinion about Sussex Cricket, dash off a comment and then move on to something else. I genuinely thought it helpful but it does seem that it isn't. I will try to resist.
I'm glad you do use it as a barometer, Jon, and I hope that is helpful to you and your colleagues. I think the problem with some very brief comments, and particularly given the recent history of this board and the delinquent behaviour of some departed posters, is that they can easily be misunderstood and your position does carry a certain weight and naturally anything you post automatically implies a certain gravitas. Don't therefore, please, be offended if you do get follow ups, because there are unanswered questions. Thank you. We do use opinion expressed on here and the Inner circle equivalent to gauge views and generate ideas. I so not take offence at any questions but do not enjoy the stuff about typifying lack of joined up thinking! |
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Post by fraudster on Jun 15, 2014 11:43:34 GMT
Well done Parsy old chap, I'm with you on this one, you'll be thrilled to hear. I like BM, HH and Flashmeister but they don't half make a mountain out of a molehill. A loan option was considered, then dismissed, end of.
This thread already has four pages and the game ain't started yet. We are reeling some what but we all know why. Time for patience while the side fight through these insecurities I reckon.
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Post by coverpoint on Jun 15, 2014 11:46:43 GMT
Hopefully someone other than Joyce or Magoffin will grace us with their prescence by producing a performance worthy of being selected for the firsts! Our team has resembled a one batsman, one bowler and nine fielders in recent games. Time for PRP?
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