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Post by hhsussex on Nov 12, 2015 15:13:13 GMT
A generally sympathetic profile of Robinson in the context of his new appointment here ( www.espncricinfo.com/women/content/story/940133.html) Interestingly Dobell makes the point that it is specifically outside his remit to broaden the pathway into the top-level of the game:he is there entirely to coach and not to manage the strategic thrust of the game. "He has been employed to coach the England team and will not, like some of his predecessors, have a role that involves re-structuring or engagement with grassroots schemes. His role is to coach the first team squad and he will have, in time, the scope to assemble a team of coaches around him to assist."
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Post by flashblade on May 11, 2016 12:59:51 GMT
Robinson has just sacked Charlotte Edwards, and in this difficult interview, she makes it clear this wasn't 'by mutual consent' www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/36268529Why the hell did he find it so hard to change the Sussex captaincy when it was needed?
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Post by hhsussex on May 11, 2016 13:18:47 GMT
Some power games evident in Women's cricket since the embarrassing semii-final defeat in the World Cup, and the even more embarrassing post-match interviews where Robinson overrruled his captain to criticise the fitness, the running skills between the wicket and other aspects of the team he had charge of. No doubt Edwards stayed too long, as is often the way when a popular leader trades on nostalgia, but it does seem to be very embarrasingly public. "...the frosty atmosphere between the two was apparent for all to see when Robinson turned up to watch the Sussex-Kent Women's County Championship fixture and, huddled into the small pavilion at Eastbourne during a three-hour rain delay, captain and coach conspicuously failed to acknowledge each other. " www.espncricinfo.com/england/content/story/1012385.html
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2016 13:19:09 GMT
Robinson has just sacked Charlotte Edwards, and in this difficult interview, she makes it clear this wasn't 'by mutual consent' www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/36268529Why the hell did he find it so hard to change the Sussex captaincy when it was needed? So Robinson has decided that Charlotte Edwards is the KP of women's cricket! I've no idea whether this is the right decsion or not, but I can see why Robinson wouldn't want someone whose 20 years experience makes her a very powerful figure hanging around and undermining his authority. It was obvious at the end of the world cup when he muscled in on her press conference and proceeded to slag off the team as unfit etc. that there wasn't much respect there. As fb suggests it is bizarre, though, all the talk of being ruthless and needing a clean break to build a new side and a 36 year old captain being too old. They'e pretty much the things Sussex needed, but which he failed to implement because jobs for the boys was more important...
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Post by Wicked Cricket on May 11, 2016 13:35:32 GMT
This smacks of a power struggle where Edwards had great loyalty and popularity in the dressing-room but Mark Robinson needs a clean sweep to stamp his influence on the side.
There wasn't that problem at Sussex where Robinson had 10 years to build his authority over both the players and the hierarchy underpinned by all the success he enjoyed in the first half of his tenure.
I have sympathy for Edwards. She remains a fine batswoman and is still in good scoring fettle but politics makes her position untenable.
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Post by joe on May 11, 2016 15:21:12 GMT
I have no sympathy I'm afraid, it's time for her to go. Yes she has been a great batter and ambassador for the woman's game but an athlete she is not. There's no place in the modern game for players who have to be ' hidden ' in the field and who struggle to run between the wickets.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2016 15:21:14 GMT
Rob Key lays into Robinson's treatment of his captain and takes him to task for his criticisms of his team after the world cup on twitter:
< Find it strange how Eng women lost wt20 because of fitness & not running 2s. Apparently the fact only 2 bats averaged 20 plus I would have thought had more to do with it. Now the one who averaged 50 has been made to retire. Be careful. anyone can get fit. Not everyone can score runs.>
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2016 15:37:39 GMT
I have no sympathy I'm afraid, it's time for her to go. Yes she has been a great batter and ambassador for the woman's game but an athlete she is not. There's no place in the modern game for players who have to be ' hidden ' in the field and who struggle to run between the wickets. Fair enough. But she did average more than 50 in the world cup and the next best was 27. She scored more than 200 runs in the comp. and only one other batter scored more than 80. Edwards also had the best strike rate of any England batter. As Rob Key said in his tweet earluier this afternoon: < Find it strange how Eng women lost wt20 because of fitness & not running 2s. Apparently the fact only 2 bats averaged 20 plus I would have thought had more to do with it. Now the one who averaged 50 has been made to retire. Be careful. anyone can get fit. Not everyone can score runs.> I think we all know she hasn't gone for cricketing reasons but, as s&f suggests, due to a gender-based power struggle.
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Post by joe on May 11, 2016 15:48:20 GMT
I have no sympathy I'm afraid, it's time for her to go. Yes she has been a great batter and ambassador for the woman's game but an athlete she is not. There's no place in the modern game for players who have to be ' hidden ' in the field and who struggle to run between the wickets. I think we all know she hasn't gone for cricketing reasons but, as s&f suggests, due to a gender-based power struggle. Rubbish, shes 36 years old and her knees have gone! Shes been good for the game but the game has also been good to her. She's had a 20 year international career and I'm sure she'll carry on playing for Kent or Southern Vipers or whatever they're now called!
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Post by flashblade on May 11, 2016 16:32:12 GMT
Yes, Robinson has played another blinder. This has been handled so badly, and I wonder what effect it will have on the squad's morale. Thankfully, Robinson's used to working with a demoralised squad.
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Post by coverpoint on May 11, 2016 17:46:39 GMT
Yet another example of poor man management by Robinson. He had some odd views and made some odd decisions during his time at Sussex. As one poster alludes to anyone can get fit, not everyone can score runs! This decision could well come back to bite Robinson on the backside.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2016 20:06:38 GMT
Yet another example of poor man management by Robinson. He had some odd views and made some odd decisions during his time at Sussex. As one poster alludes to anyone can get fit, not everyone can score runs! This decision could well come back to bite Robinson on the backside. Which England sacking has been the most ineptly handled? Is it: a) Downton stabbing KP b) Strauss axing Moores c) Robinson shafting Edwards (if you will pardon the expression) I'll vote (a) followed by (c). Downton wins because at least Robinson didn't compile a dodgy dossier that accused Charlotte of whistling and looking out of the window during team meetings. He just told her she didn't run fast enough and he likes his ladies to be younger and fitter!
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2016 21:31:17 GMT
And now Sarah Taylor announces she is taking an taking an "indefinite break" from cricket and may miss the summer series against Pakistan.
Another victim of Robinson?
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Post by Wicked Cricket on May 17, 2016 8:27:16 GMT
Bm, Speculation is a wonderful thing. Is this 'indefinite break from cricket for personal reasons' in protest at Charlotte Edwards sacking? Is it due to depression? A family or relationship matter etc..? There is not even a whisper on her Twitter. twitter.com/Sarah_Taylor30?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5EauthorBack in 2010 Taylor took a four month break then for 'personal reasons' missing an Ashes tour in the process, but returned to the sport to become the leading wicketkeeper/batswoman in the world. I wonder whether we will ever find out the true reason? Her wiki: playerswiki.com/sarah-taylor
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Post by hhsussex on Jun 1, 2016 9:56:58 GMT
Robinson strikes again. England women's batter Lydia Greenway has retired from international cricket. www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/36424440'Greenway said that during discussions with coach Mark Robinson, "it became clear that my involvement with the England team might be limited".'
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