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Post by hhsussex on Apr 13, 2016 9:50:12 GMT
Just opening this thread with the first bit of bad news from Twitter:
Adrian Harms @adrianharms 6m6 minutes ago Northampton, England
Mark Davis @sussexccc confirms Luke Wright is improving but unlikely to be fit for Sunday @bbcsussexsport #bbccricket
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2016 10:12:51 GMT
Probably worse than bad. Four days away and unlikely to play. I hope fitness news is not going to be managed in the same way as last year eg Shahzad.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2016 10:15:09 GMT
This is going to be a really tough game.
Essex will arrive on the back of a comprehensive win v Glos, Cook will be playing and they will have a really strong batting line-up with Napier at nine. I'm guessing Essex won't play Zadi or any spinner at all, but will arrive with five seamers, two of whom - Ryder and Bopara - are also top five batsmen.
If Ollie Robinson and Ajmal Shahzad were playing for Essex, they'd be batting below Napier at 10 and 11. In the Sussex side they are currently 7 and 8, which gives some indication of what a difficult fixture this will be.
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Post by jonboy on Apr 13, 2016 10:19:09 GMT
Our fitness issues are already worse than last season's start. After four games in which our bowling attack has looked, shall we say, pretty damn friendly, what can we do to shake things up? Unless CJ makes a miraculous recovery, and those at the ECB, deem it beneficial for him to play, then probably, not much at all
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Post by hhsussex on Apr 13, 2016 10:35:03 GMT
Our fitness issues are already worse than last season's start. After four games in which our bowling attack has looked, shall we say, pretty damn friendly, what can we do to shake things up? Unless CJ makes a miraculous recovery, and those at the ECB, deem it beneficial for him to play, then probably, not much at all That's quite right: nothing we can do. There isn't enough depth in the squad to cover for both injury and loss of form and our best hope is that the bowlers stay fit and work hard in the nets and on their concentration. This year the problem seems to be batsmen's injuries and their diagnostics and with fielding and catching once again. Wright and Davis are going to have to do a lot of pep-talking and inspirational leadership to get back on track and it isn't helpful that Wright's injuries have flared up so embarrassingly soon after his own insistence on fitness standards. Bad luck yet again, but every team suffers from bad luck and the real test is how it is overcome. At least none of them have had to retire through a heart murmur, or been shot and killed in a robbery while on holiday: that is really bad luck. |
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Post by jonboy on Apr 13, 2016 10:43:31 GMT
Our fitness issues are already worse than last season's start. After four games in which our bowling attack has looked, shall we say, pretty damn friendly, what can we do to shake things up? Unless CJ makes a miraculous recovery, and those at the ECB, deem it beneficial for him to play, then probably, not much at all That's quite right: nothing we can do. There isn't enough depth in the squad to cover for both injury and loss of form and our best hope is that the bowlers stay fit and work hard in the nets and on their concentration. This year the problem seems to be batsmen's injuries and their diagnostics and with fielding and catching once again. Wright and Davis are going to have to do a lot of pep-talking and inspirational leadership to get back on track and it isn't helpful that Wright's injuries have flared up so embarrassingly soon after his own insistence on fitness standards. Bad luck yet again, but every team suffers from bad luck and the real test is how it is overcome. At least none of them have had to retire through a heart murmur, or been shot and killed in a robbery while on holiday: that is really bad luck. Well sadly we've even got that base covered, with the tragic death of young Matthew Hobden |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2016 10:47:26 GMT
Sussex favourites for promotion? There's an elephant in the changing room and even that's probably not fully fit.
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Post by fraudster on Apr 13, 2016 14:09:58 GMT
Well that was the worst first game of the season I can remember for every possible reason. If I ever remember this one I'll know my life needs improving.
Same team but a batter or H-P in for Briggs is about all we can do, and should do in my opinion. That'd be Nash if he's fit I spose.
Wright might not be playing but he needs to put this bunch of Ragamuffins through their paces over the next few days to get a message or two across.
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Post by joe on Apr 13, 2016 14:35:00 GMT
My starting XI for Sunday
Joyce
Nash ( assuming he's fit, if not Wells )
Taylor
Machan
Finch
Brown
Robinson
Shahzad
Magoffin
Garton
Briggs
I think we'll stick with Briggs, he can control one end and allow the quicks to rotate which I think is important for Magoffin.
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Post by fraudster on Apr 13, 2016 16:33:37 GMT
My starting XI for Sunday Joyce Nash ( assuming he's fit, if not Wells ) Taylor Machan Finch Brown Robinson Shahzad Magoffin Garton Briggs I think we'll stick with Briggs, he can control one end and allow the quicks to rotate which I think is important for Magoffin. What's your obsession with a massive tail? You don't need a spinner to control an end if you have four seamers playing mate, spinners hold up ends for three man seam attacks not four - that's pointless. All that achieved in the last game was to gift them an easy 107 runs. |
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Post by joe on Apr 13, 2016 16:39:19 GMT
My starting XI for Sunday Joyce Nash ( assuming he's fit, if not Wells ) Taylor Machan Finch Brown Robinson Shahzad Magoffin Garton Briggs I think we'll stick with Briggs, he can control one end and allow the quicks to rotate which I think is important for Magoffin. What's your obsession with a massive tail? You don't need a spinner to control an end if you have four seamers playing mate, spinners hold up ends for three man seam attacks not four - that's pointless. All that achieved in the last game was to gift them an easy 107 runs. And you can't win a game with just batsmen, you have to bowl a side out twice and in the absence of an all-rounder I'd play a spinner who goes at under 3 an over! |
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Post by jonboy on Apr 13, 2016 16:45:20 GMT
I don't know, we've created this problem for ourselves. Last year we couldn't find the right balance, either too many batters, and not enough bowlers, or too many bowlers, and a tail like we have now. We did nothing about remedying this key issue, and I believe it will come back to haunt us again this year.
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Post by fraudster on Apr 13, 2016 16:46:38 GMT
What's your obsession with a massive tail? You don't need a spinner to control an end if you have four seamers playing mate, spinners hold up ends for three man seam attacks not four - that's pointless. All that achieved in the last game was to gift them an easy 107 runs. And you can't win a game with just batsmen, you have to bowl a side out twice and in the absence of an all-rounder I'd play a spinner who goes at under 3 an over! That one? It's negative and pointless. We'll see how many sides he bowls out. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2016 18:19:59 GMT
I know what fraudster means. When did a fifth bowler ever win a match? If four can't do the job - with a few overs of light relief from a part-timer like Nash or Wells, if necessary - then an extra specialist bowler ain't going to make much difference.
Last time Sussex won a CC game at Hove - 11 months ago v Warwicks - we only played four bowlers. They were all seamers and they did the job; a fifth bowler wasn't required to bowl a single over in either innings. Four seamers was quite enough 'rotation'.
Robinson is far too high at seven (as pointed out above, he'd be batting at ten if he was playing for Essex). So Sussex really need to play four bowlers and strengthen the batting.
Joyce
Wells
Taylor
Nash
Machan
Finch
Brown
Robinson
Shahzad
Garton or Briggs
Magoffin
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Post by jonboy on Apr 13, 2016 18:33:13 GMT
I know what fraudster means. When did a fifth bowler ever win a match? If four can't do the job - with a few overs of light relief from a part-timer like Nash or Wells, if necessary - then an extra specialist bowler ain't going to make much difference. Last time Sussex won a CC game at Hove - 11 months ago v Warwicks - we only played four bowlers. They were all seamers and they did the job; a fifth bowler wasn't required to bowl a single over in either innings. Four seamers was quite enough 'rotation'. Robinson is far too high at seven (as pointed out above, he'd be batting at ten if he was playing for Essex). So Sussex really need to play four bowlers and strengthen the batting. Joyce Wells Taylor Nash Machan Finch Brown Robinson Shahzad Garton or Briggs Magoffin I think it's a problem we're stuck with, because I'm pretty certain Briggs will play most games. Should be OK fielding him and three seamers, if the seamers a regular wicket takers. Any three from Magoffin, Shahzad, Robinson and Garton should be good enough, although to me, Shahzad and Robinson don't yet look back to their best. We should have used the overseas slot to bring in an all rounder, then I don't think we'd have this dilemma |
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