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Post by Wicked Cricket on Jun 24, 2016 17:41:58 GMT
Bm,
Tragic though it was, I do wonder how long can the club's official mourning period go on?
After being stunned and shocked early this morning, I now feel saddened by yet another woeful underperformance from Sussex.
So, it's been quite an intense emotional day!
As for the Hobden mourning, I agree, it is time to move on, however tragic.
edit: 70-0 at end of day. Can we save the match tomorrow?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2016 21:49:31 GMT
The final evidence that Sussex has already given up on promotion? Last year's captain Ed Joyce has decided to miss the CC game v Kent at Tunbridge Wells next month - surely a must-win if Sussex are to get back in touch with the top half of the table - in order to play for Ireland v Afghanistan in an ODI series.
Boyd Rankin was also selected, but has told the Ireland selectors that he is unavailable as he wants to play for Warwicks in a CC game v Hants.
I'm not criticising Joyce for prefering to represent his country. But the contrast between attitudes at Edgbaston and Hove is noteworthy.
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Post by fraudster on Jun 25, 2016 9:02:49 GMT
Yes another woeful performance from Sussex's dominant paper team and inferior grass team. What is it with us and first innings performances.
I wouldn't be surprised if we save this game with a dominant second innings batting display but when will we start playing four day cricket.
As for our bowling, it's tired and weak and needs change. I thought I knew why Garton was rested but I don't know why he's still resting.
Dismal.
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Post by coverpoint on Jun 25, 2016 9:09:09 GMT
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Post by flashblade on Jun 25, 2016 9:13:01 GMT
Hopefully not. Having said that, we deserve to lose what has so far been an astonishingly one sided match. #Robinson's legacy |
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Post by hhsussex on Jun 25, 2016 11:17:13 GMT
Hopefully not. Having said that, we deserve to lose what has so far been an astonishingly one sided match. #Robinson's legacy Heavy showers now in "the heart of Mid Sussex" . |
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Post by fraudster on Jun 25, 2016 13:45:16 GMT
Well, an undeserved draw by the looks of it, with a whopping six points to our name. Sounds pants, and is, but with my positive hat on we are still only 30 odd points off leaders Essex, with a game in hand. Effectively, if we win that, we are 5-10 points from Essex at the halfway stage.
We badly need to find some energy, focus, desire - f*** knows what but we need to find it by next Saturday. Again, our paper team will be considerably stronger than our opponent's. But what of our will.
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Post by flashblade on Jun 25, 2016 13:51:25 GMT
The final evidence that Sussex has already given up on promotion? Last year's captain Ed Joyce has decided to miss the CC game v Kent at Tunbridge Wells next month - surely a must-win if Sussex are to get back in touch with the top half of the table - in order to play for Ireland v Afghanistan in an ODI series. Boyd Rankin was also selected, but has told the Ireland selectors that he is unavailable as he wants to play for Warwicks in a CC game v Hants. I'm not criticising Joyce for prefering to represent his country. But the contrast between attitudes at Edgbaston and Hove is noteworthy. But I think you're saying that Rankin's attitude is more laudable? |
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Post by joe on Jun 25, 2016 15:46:19 GMT
Match abandoned.
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Jun 25, 2016 16:06:40 GMT
6 points for Sussex = 76 and 6th in the table and 31 points adrift from leaders Essex with a game in hand. Due to our 2012 weather, anything is still possible. Question: Can Sussex win a match given the present inconsistent batting and bowling that seemingly can't take wickets? This is Division 2 for goodness sake. We are allegedly the team that is too good to be in this Division. If Sussex can find some form and win two in a row, then we are back in contention, but what needs to be done to kick the club out of their present malaise? Do what Notts did last season re: Peter Moores and bring in an experienced coaching consultant from outside the club to galvanise the team. But I can't see that happening as Mark Davis might feel threatened due to his short tenure. Although, wasn't all this being said last June? What is so disappointing... it is the same ol', same ol'... This is the third season in a row where inconsistency has struck - especially from the batsmen. Not even changing the coach and captain has altered the pattern. Often, why do we bat better in the second innings rather than the first? As frawdy suggests, imho, the problem is the Sussex players' minds. www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/county-championship-division-two/table |
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Post by jonboy on Jun 25, 2016 16:16:40 GMT
So, in two innings against perennial no hopers, Northamptonshire, we have managed to score 323 runs, for the loss of 12 wickets. Meanwhile, those same 12 Northamptonshire wickets have managed to amass a staggering 959 runs, against our powder puff attack. A truly shocking statistic
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2016 16:24:32 GMT
6 points for Sussex = 76 and 6th in the table and 31 points adrift from leaders Essex with a game in hand. Due to our 2012 weather, anything is still possible. Question: Can Sussex win a match given the present inconsistent batting and bowling that seemingly can't take wickets? This is Division 2 for goodness sake. We are allegedly the team that is too good to be in this Division. If Sussex can find some form and win two in a row, then we are back in contention, but what needs to be done to kick the club out of their present malaise? Do what Notts did last season re: Peter Moores and bring in an experienced coaching consultant from outside the club to galvanise the team. But I can't see that happening as Mark Davis might feel threatened due to his short tenure. Although, wasn't all this being said last June? What is so disappointing... it is the same ol', same ol'... This is the third season in a row where inconsistency has struck - especially from the batsmen. Not even changing the coach and captain has altered the pattern. Often, why do we bat better in the second innings rather than the first? As frawdy suggests, imho, the problem is the Sussex players' minds. www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/county-championship-division-two/tableThe most depressing thing about that table is the pathetic number of bonus points. Everyone is struggling to win games due to road-like pitches and weather and it's probably a unique situation that at more or less the half-way stage of a championship season no team has managed to win more than two matches. But.... Essex have 50 bonus pts and all the other four teams above Sussex have 40 or more bonus pts. Sussex have just 30, fewer not only than those above but also fewer than all the teams below and the least number of bonus pts in the division in both the batting and bowling columns. You complain about a lack of consistency, s&f - but there is a kind of consistency of crapness in those stats! |
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Post by flashblade on Jun 25, 2016 16:27:15 GMT
6 points for Sussex = 76 and 6th in the table and 31 points adrift from leaders Essex with a game in hand. Due to our 2012 weather, anything is still possible. Question: Can Sussex win a match given the present inconsistent batting and bowling that seemingly can't take wickets? This is Division 2 for goodness sake. We are allegedly the team that is too good to be in this Division. If Sussex can find some form and win two in a row, then we are back in contention, but what needs to be done to kick the club out of their present malaise? Do what Notts did last season re: Peter Moores and bring in an experienced coaching consultant from outside the club to galvanise the team. But I can't see that happening as Mark Davis might feel threatened due to his short tenure. Although, wasn't all this being said last June? What is so disappointing... it is the same ol', same ol'... This is the third season in a row where inconsistency has struck - especially from the batsmen. Not even changing the coach and captain has altered the pattern. Often, why do we bat better in the second innings rather than the first? As frawdy suggests, imho, the problem is the Sussex players' minds. www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/county-championship-division-two/tableS&F - I can only repeat my comments upthread two days' ago: "I still think the current culture is the source of the team's malaise. It's the result of years of inbreeding, which has deprived the club of new ideas and attitudes that one or more experienced outsiders would bring to the party. Most of us agree that we have individual players of quality, but it's a long time since they performed to their potential as a team. The club seems to be culturally unable to address the problem. However, it is possible that the unhealthy financial situation has prompted the club to go for the cheapest staffing solutions, relying on the loyalty (or inertia) of long serving staff who may have nothing fresh to offer. I now wonder if Murray Goodwin may have delivered a few home truths, before having to leave prematurely. The truth often hurts. These are just my observations. Mr Filby, with his inside knowledge, may be able to reassure us that everything in the garden is lovely. " |
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Post by jonboy on Jun 25, 2016 16:36:26 GMT
6 points for Sussex = 76 and 6th in the table and 31 points adrift from leaders Essex with a game in hand. Due to our 2012 weather, anything is still possible. Question: Can Sussex win a match given the present inconsistent batting and bowling that seemingly can't take wickets? This is Division 2 for goodness sake. We are allegedly the team that is too good to be in this Division. If Sussex can find some form and win two in a row, then we are back in contention, but what needs to be done to kick the club out of their present malaise? Do what Notts did last season re: Peter Moores and bring in an experienced coaching consultant from outside the club to galvanise the team. But I can't see that happening as Mark Davis might feel threatened due to his short tenure. Although, wasn't all this being said last June? What is so disappointing... it is the same ol', same ol'... This is the third season in a row where inconsistency has struck - especially from the batsmen. Not even changing the coach and captain has altered the pattern. Often, why do we bat better in the second innings rather than the first? As frawdy suggests, imho, the problem is the Sussex players' minds. www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/county-championship-division-two/tableS&F - I can only repeat my comments upthread two days' ago: "I still think the current culture is the source of the team's malaise. It's the result of years of inbreeding, which has deprived the club of new ideas and attitudes that one or more experienced outsiders would bring to the party. Most of us agree that we have individual players of quality, but it's a long time since they performed to their potential as a team. The club seems to be culturally unable to address the problem. However, it is possible that the unhealthy financial situation has prompted the club to go for the cheapest staffing solutions, relying on the loyalty (or inertia) of long serving staff who may have nothing fresh to offer. I now wonder if Murray Goodwin may have delivered a few home truths, before having to leave prematurely. The truth often hurts. These are just my observations. Mr Filby, with his inside knowledge, may be able to reassure us that everything in the garden is lovely. " What unhealthy financial situation? We are constantly told that Sussex are in a better position than most other counties, and don't really owe anything. The club must have made some hefty savings on the playing budget this season They really need to dip into that kitty now, and bring in the best overseas all rounder they can find, and at least try and salvage something from this miserable season |
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Post by flashblade on Jun 25, 2016 16:59:57 GMT
S&F - I can only repeat my comments upthread two days' ago: "I still think the current culture is the source of the team's malaise. It's the result of years of inbreeding, which has deprived the club of new ideas and attitudes that one or more experienced outsiders would bring to the party. Most of us agree that we have individual players of quality, but it's a long time since they performed to their potential as a team. The club seems to be culturally unable to address the problem. However, it is possible that the unhealthy financial situation has prompted the club to go for the cheapest staffing solutions, relying on the loyalty (or inertia) of long serving staff who may have nothing fresh to offer. I now wonder if Murray Goodwin may have delivered a few home truths, before having to leave prematurely. The truth often hurts. These are just my observations. Mr Filby, with his inside knowledge, may be able to reassure us that everything in the garden is lovely. " We are constantly told that Sussex are in a better position than most other counties, and don't really owe anything. The club must have made some hefty savings on the playing budget this season They really need to dip into that kitty now, and bring in the best overseas all rounder they can find, and at least try and salvage something from this miserable season Unhealthy in the sense that the Spen Cama money has nearly run out and the club makes a loss each year. The club is determined not to borrow money and it is therefore having to cut its coat from a piece of cloth that is shrinking annually. The club does not disclose its detailed financial budget, but it appears that the playing (and coaching?) budget was cut this year in line with the current austerity strategy. If my surmise is incorrect, would Jim May or Jon Filby please correct me, as I've no intention to mislead. I'm just doing my best to assess the situation on the strength of the info that's in the public domain. |
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