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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2016 15:59:29 GMT
How many cars are searched at Calais? What are they supposed to be searching for - a couple of Syrian refugees in the glove compartment and a family of illegal Somali immigrants in the boot??? Following the Brexit vote the searches of vehicles which were conducted at Calais will now have to be conducted at Dover. If they don't look, they'll never know. A guy on the radio the other day was saying he takes his Volvo estate to Calais every three months and stuffs someone in his boot. £4000 a pop I think he said. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2016 16:10:45 GMT
When I signed the petition at about 1 pm I was number 1,299,128.
It has now topped 1,835,000.
That's more than half a million signatures in four hours, which wherever you stand on the issue you have to admit is quite extraordinary.
There's growing evidence of people having voted 'out' as a kind of by-election protest gesture (stonewall's woman who voted Brexit because she couldn't get a seat on the train) and now saying, 'oh no, look what we've gone and done' and desperately looking for a way to put the genie back into the bottle.
The petition could top 2.5 million by the end of the day. If only remain supporters had shown such passion before rather than after the vote!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2016 16:47:10 GMT
What are they supposed to be searching for - a couple of Syrian refugees in the glove compartment and a family of illegal Somali immigrants in the boot??? Following the Brexit vote the searches of vehicles which were conducted at Calais will now have to be conducted at Dover. If they don't look, they'll never know. A guy on the radio the other day was saying he takes his Volvo estate to Calais every three months and stuffs someone in his boot. £4000 a pop I think he said. I should add that I find such behaviour morally reprehensible, not least because an adult in the boot probably occupies a space the equivalent to fifteen cases of claret. |
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Post by coverpoint on Jun 25, 2016 16:54:48 GMT
When I signed the petition at about 1 pm I was number 1,299,128. It has now topped 1,835,000. That's more than half a million signatures in four hours, which wherever you stand on the issue you have to admit is quite extraordinary. There's growing evidence of people having voted 'out' as a kind of by-election protest gesture (stonewall's woman who voted Brexit because she couldn't get a seat on the train) and now saying, 'oh no, look what we've gone and done' and desperately looking for a way to put the genie back into the bottle. The petition could top 2.5 million by the end of the day. If only remain supporters had shown such passion before rather than after the vote! Who is to say they didn't? After all 16.1m voted to remain. So less than one in eight of those who voted remain have signed up. Therefore the other seven eighths presumably accept democracy has been served. |
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Post by coverpoint on Jun 25, 2016 16:55:47 GMT
If they don't look, they'll never know. A guy on the radio the other day was saying he takes his Volvo estate to Calais every three months and stuffs someone in his boot. £4000 a pop I think he said. I should add that I find such behaviour morally reprehensible, not least because an adult in the boot probably occupies a space the equivalent to fifteen cases of claret. This is why all vehicles should be searched at both ends. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2016 17:00:52 GMT
When I signed the petition at about 1 pm I was number 1,299,128. It has now topped 1,835,000. That's more than half a million signatures in four hours, which wherever you stand on the issue you have to admit is quite extraordinary. There's growing evidence of people having voted 'out' as a kind of by-election protest gesture (stonewall's woman who voted Brexit because she couldn't get a seat on the train) and now saying, 'oh no, look what we've gone and done' and desperately looking for a way to put the genie back into the bottle. The petition could top 2.5 million by the end of the day. If only remain supporters had shown such passion before rather than after the vote! Who is to say they didn't? After all 16.1m voted to remain. So less than one in eight of those who voted remain have signed up. Therefore the other seven eighths presumably accept democracy has been served. Or exercising their right to remain silent. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2016 17:35:07 GMT
Just after 6pm, the petition passed 2 million votes.The previous biggest Parliamentary petition in history was when 820,000 asked the government to give meningitis B vaccines to all children. This is going to pass 3 million sometime tonight or tomorrow morning and will be debated in Parliament: under our system of representative democracy and Parliamentary sovereignty the referendum was advisory and non-binding. David Lammy, MP for Tottenham, makes the point well: “Wake up. We do not have to do this," he says. "We can stop this madness and bring this nightmare to an end through a vote in parliament. Our sovereign parliament needs to now vote on whether we should exit the EU. The referendum was an advisory, non-binding referendum. The leave campaign’s platform has already unravelled and some people wish they hadn’t voted to leave. Parliament now needs to decide whether we should go forward with Brexit and there should be a vote in parliament next week. Let us not destroy our economy on the basis of lies and the hubris of Boris Johnson.” We do not have to go through with this Brexit. Please sign the petition and help to stop this act of national self-harm by forwarding the petition to everyone you know via e-mail, Twitter, Facebook or other social media: petition.parliament.uk/petitions/131215 |
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Post by joe on Jun 25, 2016 17:58:30 GMT
Hold tight BM. We will soon see, Departugal, Italeave, Czechout, Finish, Byeguim, Oustria, Latervia etc and there won't be a European Union to remain in.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2016 17:59:37 GMT
This result cannot be overturned without a complete loss of credibility in our voting system. We may not like the result but a re-run would be a disaster.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2016 18:15:28 GMT
Just after 6pm, the petition passed 2 million votes.The previous biggest Parliamentary petition in history was when 820,000 asked the government to give meningitis B vaccines to all children. This is going to pass 3 million sometime tonight or tomorrow morning and will be debated in Parliament: under our system of representative democracy and Parliamentary sovereignty the referendum was advisory and non-binding. David Lammy, MP for Tottenham, makes the point well: “Wake up. We do not have to do this," he says. "We can stop this madness and bring this nightmare to an end through a vote in parliament. Our sovereign parliament needs to now vote on whether we should exit the EU. The referendum was an advisory, non-binding referendum. The leave campaign’s platform has already unravelled and some people wish they hadn’t voted to leave. Parliament now needs to decide whether we should go forward with Brexit and there should be a vote in parliament next week. Let us not destroy our economy on the basis of lies and the hubris of Boris Johnson.” We do not have to go through with this Brexit. Please sign the petition and help to stop this act of national self-harm by forwarding the petition to everyone you know via e-mail, Twitter, Facebook or other social media: petition.parliament.uk/petitions/131215I don't think thirty-million plus people voted on the basis that they were advising parliament. Brexit may be a weapon of crass deduction but it's past the point of some dramatic James Bond Moonraker magical act of disarmament. |
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Post by flashblade on Jun 25, 2016 18:17:57 GMT
Just after 6pm, the petition passed 2 million votes.The previous biggest Parliamentary petition in history was when 820,000 asked the government to give meningitis B vaccines to all children. This is going to pass 3 million sometime tonight or tomorrow morning and will be debated in Parliament: under our system of representative democracy and Parliamentary sovereignty the referendum was advisory and non-binding. David Lammy, MP for Tottenham, makes the point well: “Wake up. We do not have to do this," he says. "We can stop this madness and bring this nightmare to an end through a vote in parliament. Our sovereign parliament needs to now vote on whether we should exit the EU. The referendum was an advisory, non-binding referendum. The leave campaign’s platform has already unravelled and some people wish they hadn’t voted to leave. Parliament now needs to decide whether we should go forward with Brexit and there should be a vote in parliament next week. Let us not destroy our economy on the basis of lies and the hubris of Boris Johnson.” We do not have to go through with this Brexit. Please sign the petition and help to stop this act of national self-harm by forwarding the petition to everyone you know via e-mail, Twitter, Facebook or other social media: petition.parliament.uk/petitions/131215Brexit may be a weapon of crass deduction but it's past the point of some dramatic James Bond Moonraker magical act of disarmament. What else did they think they were doing? |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2016 18:18:58 GMT
I don't think thirty-million plus people voted on the basis that they were advising parliament. Brexit may be a weapon of crass deduction but it's past the point of some dramatic James Bond Moonraker magical act of disarmament. What else did they think they were doing? Making a decision. |
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Post by flashblade on Jun 25, 2016 18:20:56 GMT
What else did they think they were doing? Making a decision. In a non-binding referendum? If voters were as well informed as they ought to have been, they would have known this. Ignorance is no excuse. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2016 18:26:59 GMT
Ok. So what percentage of those voting thought they were doing so in some sort of consultative capacity? Whether excusable or not.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2016 18:29:42 GMT
Hold tight BM. We will soon see, Departugal, Italeave, Czechout, Finish, Byeguim, Oustria, Latervia etc and there won't be a European Union to remain in. If we do go ahead and leave, the EU will survive very happily without us and it's Anglo-centric hubris to pretend otherwise, joe. It's the UK - or what's left of it after Scotland has broken away - which will have the problem... But it's just possible the situation can still be salvaged. In addition to the 16 million who voted to remain, there's at least a couple of million Brexit voters who didn't realise they were voting to give Johnson the keys to Number Ten and are now horrified at what they've done! |
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