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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2014 19:25:47 GMT
hh raises some very pertinent points - not least about a match referee whose paramount claim to fame is to have been the drunkest, skunkiest Aussie ever to land at Heathrow. But the ICC is beyond a joke. They get tough with Mo Ali and reprimand him for wearing a 'SAVE GAZA' wrist band, as a third UN school is bombed and the number of children murdered by Israeli war crimes passes the 300 mark. But they let off 'Potty Mouth' Anderson after he admitted calling another player a f***ing p**ck" and a "f***ing c**t" due to ...er, a 'lack of evidence'.
Presumably 'Potty Mouth' needs to wear a wrist band saying 'JADEJA IS A F***ING C**T" before they will consider any action?
Pathetic.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2014 19:27:56 GMT
... we'd still be burning witches and stoning adulterers! And chopping off the heads of infidels. But we shouldn't be making jokes like that. It will be probably be in the Tory manifesto at the next election!
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Aug 4, 2014 11:15:02 GMT
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Post by flashblade on Aug 5, 2014 9:23:10 GMT
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Aug 5, 2014 10:40:22 GMT
How is this affecting the relations between the newly formed ICC "Gang of 3"? Could the ECB and BCCI fall out over this incident the longer it is drawn out? Quite possibly given the past wounds and especially with Clarke at the helm.
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Post by hhsussex on Aug 5, 2014 18:10:07 GMT
How is this affecting the relations between the newly formed ICC "Gang of 3"? Could the ECB and BCCI fall out over this incident the longer it is drawn out? Quite possibly given the past wounds and especially with Clarke at the helm. Rather than considering the effect on relationships we should be looking at this incident as characterising the very nature of that fractious relationship. BCCI is extremely nervous about the new power base formed by ECB and Cricket Australia, and is seeking any opportunity to subvert it. Equally the ECB is quite determined not to be seen by anyone - least of all its new partner, CA - to bow the knee to BCCI in this new world order. Hence the rapid development of a casus belli from unlikely beginnings, the swift mobilisation of flying lawyers from Dubai, the dark hints of negotiated tit-for-tat sanctions and their withdrawal. Its as if they'd all been studiously re-enacting the history of a hundred years ago, from the obscure assassination of an unloved colonial oppressor-in-ordinary in a provincial backwater, through the diplomacy of secret tretaies and media exploitation, all the way to the guns of August. Fortunately it appears to have stopped short of trench warfare, but I wouldn't put money on Anderson and Jadeja playing soccer one on one on Christmas Day, just to satisfy the egos of Clarke and Srinivasan.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 18:38:51 GMT
More damning info dribbling out from the hearing. In addition to the four-lettered abuse that Potty Mouth admitted dishing out to Jadeja, it is now reported that he did not dispute Indian claims that he called MS Dhoni a “f------ fat c---”.
He seems to have modelled himself on foul-mouthed fellow Lancastrian Liam Gallagher. What a shame. He's a great bowler but it is becoming increasingly clear that he is a deeply unpleasant human being and no role model for aspiring young cricketers.
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Aug 5, 2014 19:20:27 GMT
It is interesting that during 'Pietersengate' two years ago, both Swann and Broad were the primary suspects for that fake KP twitter account, yet little was said about Anderson. One wonders how much he had to do with that summer of discontent.
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Post by flashblade on Aug 6, 2014 10:56:13 GMT
ICC not to appeal Anderson verdict www.espncricinfo.com/england-v-india-2014/content/current/story/767385.htmlLet's hope the BCCI, with their usual good grace, will accept that the matter is finally closed. This is one horse that has been seriously flogged to death. Apart from deciding that no appeal was necessary, the ICC statement included a comment on the use of offensive language: "International cricket is tough, competitive and uncompromising but we must reiterate that there is no place in the game for the use of offensive language that is personally insulting of one player by another. It is imperative that all captains, players and coaches as well as umpires and referees are reminded of and do not shirk their responsibility to one another and to the game." Well said.
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Post by hhsussex on Aug 7, 2014 10:08:44 GMT
England unchanged for the Manchester Test, so another chance for Chris Jordan to prove himself. He does seem to be a rhythm bowler and admits himself that he needs the stimulus of regular bowling to bring out his best form. I hope he finds it, and I hope that commentators such as Mike Selvey in the Guardian don't get too picky about his run up: if it works then don't make him change it.
On edit: and a wicket just before lunch to reinforce the excellent start to the match by England and to enhance his own claims.
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Post by coverpoint on Aug 10, 2014 12:01:32 GMT
I hope Plunkett and Stokes are recalled for the final test as Woakes and Jordan have really in the last two tests.
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Post by hhsussex on Aug 10, 2014 12:39:40 GMT
I hope Plunkett and Stokes are recalled for the final test as Woakes and Jordan have really in the last two tests. They are not recalled, though I'm not sure how fit either of them are. Obviously I've felt for Jordan: wished him to do well as a talented individual, although knowing that a stellar performance would ensure his future as a contracted player, and therefore deprived to Sussex except for a few supervised practice games. He hasn't really shown consistently what he can do, just flashes now and then, and has been as unlucky as he has been at Sussex with edges going for four that could so often have been slip or gully catches. And yet, he doesn't quite convince, doesn't seem to have the concentration necessary to keep the right line consistently. I don't think it is an issue created by his run up or the action resulting from it; I think he perhaps still lacks a little faith in himself and perhaps the longer he stays in the England set-up there greater chance there is for him to develop that sense of being in his proper place. Much depends on the coaching atmosphere. on how he is regarded and what is beiung done to help him fulfil himself. I've yet to see in Woakes anything that suggests he is other than a very useful medium pacer, and perhaps his England value may come in a year or two as a middle-order batsman who bowls stock spells. I was disappointed that he got the new ball in prefernece to Jordan when Broad was injured, and I really think that the current attempt to portray him as someone who can lift his pace magically is misguided, and unhelpful to the player.
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Post by coverpoint on Aug 10, 2014 13:27:48 GMT
Woakes got the new ball HH because he bowled better and with more consistency. Unfortunately Jordan's performance at the Ageas did not fill the captain with confidence. I don't think either are a long-term solution for England.
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Post by hhsussex on Aug 10, 2014 13:40:44 GMT
Woakes got the new ball HH because he bowled better and with more consistency. Unfortunately Jordan's performance at the Ageas did not fill the captain with confidence. I don't thin either are a long-term solution for England. Woakes did not really trouble anyone. At the Ageas he looked as if he might, and I agree that Jordan seemed full of nerves there; at Manchester, Woakes was competent, lacking in pace, predictable for the most part in his swing. If either of them were to be given the new ball it should have been Jordan, the faster, bouncier bowler. As to whether either of them are long-term solutions, it really depends on what the problem is that they're meant to solve: successors to Anderson in a year, Broad in 2 or 3, or some other issue. I think theat is where England's bowling coaching lacks definition: what is Saker meant to be doing? Is it to inspire new bowlers to some fresh level of achievement, or to develop competent support bowlers? The near-meltdown of Finn gives the lie to the first one, and the redeployment of the Plunkett Mk 1, now relocated from its Durham silo to a new state-of-the-art bunker at Headingley doesn't argue much for the latter, except for a very limnited piece of short-term thinking.
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Post by coverpoint on Aug 10, 2014 13:47:16 GMT
Nor did Jordan. Having watched both bowl at the Ageas Woakes was unlucky at the Ageas Bowl and could have taken a couple of wickets with a bit more luck. Jordan seems to have lost his wrist position which means his bowling is a bit like a sprinkler i.e. firing in all directions. This was why Jordan wasn't given the new ball. All the commentators agreed Woakes should be given the new ball. Take off those Sussex coloured spectacles HH. Pace is nothing without control. Jordan looks someway short of international class. He bowls too short and too many four balls. Stokes should come in for Jordan as he has a better batting and bowling average than Jordan.
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