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Post by Wicked Cricket on Feb 11, 2020 22:45:02 GMT
Now The Cricketer Magazine wades in. (Silverdale) "It’s just a case of: his injury occurred. The first scan didn’t show us where it was. The second has. We can now put a plan in place and get him going for our summer." I find it baffling that the first X-Ray scan did NOT show where the stress fracture was, yet the second 'miraculously' did, and all along the Captain and Head Coach treated Jofra like a pit pony. www.thecricketer.com/Topics/news/jofra_archer_management_must_change_england_chris_silverwood.html
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Post by mickm on Feb 12, 2020 12:44:19 GMT
Interestingly root and Silverwood are being blamed or having some level of blame aimed at them. I think it's worth noting Morgan has also been a captain of his and Bayliss has also coached him!! To me he has had a large workload since bursting on to the scene and I believe Joe Root is absolutely right that the BBL and IPL have contributed to his current injury. He's played a lot of cricket in all for forms of the game and he needs managing going forward. He was left out of the 1st Ashes test because of a slight injury and they took precautions so to me this is a massive over reaction to a bowler thats picked up an injury.
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Post by lovelyboy on Feb 13, 2020 22:28:53 GMT
Interestingly root and Silverwood are being blamed or having some level of blame aimed at them. I think it's worth noting Morgan has also been a captain of his and Bayliss has also coached him!! To me he has had a large workload since bursting on to the scene and I believe Joe Root is absolutely right that the BBL and IPL have contributed to his current injury. He's played a lot of cricket in all for forms of the game and he needs managing going forward. He was left out of the 1st Ashes test because of a slight injury and they took precautions so to me this is a massive over reaction to a bowler thats picked up an injury. They bowled him for 42 overs in one innings in NZ! To put that in perspective neither Bob Willis or Stuart Broad have ever bowled that amount of overs. And yet they still questioned his desire and commitment. Make no mistake he’s been treated terribly
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Post by mickm on Feb 14, 2020 10:08:34 GMT
Interestingly he says the complete opposite.
“Obviously, everyone is as good as their team, and I wouldn’t be here without the great team I’m in.
“I’ve been welcomed from the very first moment I put an England shirt on, and hopefully the best is yet to come.”
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Post by flashblade on Feb 14, 2020 10:54:25 GMT
Interestingly he says the complete opposite. “Obviously, everyone is as good as their team, and I wouldn’t be here without the great team I’m in. “I’ve been welcomed from the very first moment I put an England shirt on, and hopefully the best is yet to come.” These guys are coached in the art of media diplomacy. Anyway, that quote doesn't begin to address the accusation that he's been over-bowled.
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Post by mickm on Feb 14, 2020 12:55:40 GMT
Interestingly he says the complete opposite. “Obviously, everyone is as good as their team, and I wouldn’t be here without the great team I’m in. “I’ve been welcomed from the very first moment I put an England shirt on, and hopefully the best is yet to come.” These guys are coached in the art of media diplomacy. Anyway, that quote doesn't begin to address the accusation that he's been over-bowled. Accepted, however, my point was responding to the comment he had been treated appallingly not over bowled. I'm going to base it on the facts presented that he is happy in the set up rather than an assumed opinion that he isnt.
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Post by flashblade on Feb 14, 2020 13:59:00 GMT
These guys are coached in the art of media diplomacy. Anyway, that quote doesn't begin to address the accusation that he's been over-bowled. Accepted, however, my point was responding to the comment he had been treated appallingly not over bowled. I'm going to base it on the facts presented that he is happy in the set up rather than an assumed opinion that he isnt. Interesting; in what way had it been alleged that he'd been 'treated appallingly', other than having been allegedly over-bowled?
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Post by mickm on Feb 14, 2020 15:59:58 GMT
Accepted, however, my point was responding to the comment he had been treated appallingly not over bowled. I'm going to base it on the facts presented that he is happy in the set up rather than an assumed opinion that he isnt. Interesting; in what way had it been alleged that he'd been 'treated appallingly', other than having been allegedly over-bowled? Following on form lovely boys post "Make no mistake he’s been treated terribly" I used the wrong word but its all but the samr.
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Post by flashblade on Feb 14, 2020 19:58:00 GMT
Interesting; in what way had it been alleged that he'd been 'treated appallingly', other than having been allegedly over-bowled? Following on form lovely boys post "Make no mistake he’s been treated terribly" I used the wrong word but its all but the samr. OK, I'll rephrase the question: in what way had it been alleged that he'd been 'treated terribly', other than having been allegedly over-bowled? In any event, Chris Silverwood now admits that Archer's bowling was mismanaged: www.thecricketer.com/Topics/news/jofra_archer_management_must_change_england_chris_silverwood.html
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Post by mickm on Feb 17, 2020 8:57:50 GMT
I'll maintain the same answer, i was responding to the lovely boys comment he was treated terribly, that was where the allegation was made. Mis-managed is very different to being treated terribly.
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Mar 5, 2020 10:55:44 GMT
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Post by mickm on Mar 5, 2020 11:18:40 GMT
I reckon you'll see him a fair bit early season as he builds up to test match fitness.
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Mar 5, 2020 11:21:35 GMT
mickm,
I am not sure about that. Archer says his elbow has been giving him no trouble during the last 2 weeks and a scan this week, if proven positive, will allow him to play in the IPL which begins on March 29th.
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Post by mickm on Mar 5, 2020 11:37:17 GMT
Didn't know that! Good knowledge.
With no Test Match cricket until June i guess he'll be out there for most of it although I'd be surprised if the ECB didn't want some sort of Red Balls overs under his belt.
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Post by flashblade on Mar 5, 2020 11:42:37 GMT
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