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Post by hhsussex on Aug 25, 2016 15:21:49 GMT
12.30 on day two:- Sussex 154-1 Essex 68-5 If Sussex beat Glam and Leics beat Essex, the difference between the two counties could by Friday be down to little more than 20 points, with Sussex having a game in hand plus a game still to play... against Essex. Not making any predictions. Just sayin'!!! However... Leicestershire 238 & 117/7 (31.4 ov) Essex 423 Leicestershire trail by 68 runs with 3 wickets remaining Looks more likely that Essex will have this wrapped up tonight and consolidate their lead over everyone else - ironically even with a failure from Cook.
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Aug 25, 2016 15:53:20 GMT
BBC Radio Sussex, Adrian Harms, had set up an interview with Club Chairman, Jim May, for 3.30pm this afternoon and then the heavens opened. Not sure who benefitted from this more - May or the Sussex team?
I agree with Hhs, a draw seems likely now...
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Post by hhsussex on Aug 25, 2016 16:48:03 GMT
Assuming that Kent beat Glos tomorrow, as seems highly likely, and that the other games drift into draws, this is how the points will work out - see final column:
That just about keeps Kent in the hunt, at least unless Sussex spoil their party at Hove next week. For Sussex the best to hope for is 3rd place maybe.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2016 18:12:52 GMT
BBC Radio Sussex, Adrian Harms, had set up an interview with Club Chairman, Jim May, for 3.30pm this afternoon and then the heavens opened. Not sure who benefitted from this more - May or the Sussex team? I agree with Hhs, a draw seems likely now... Wright is apparently offering Rudolph a deal. Joyce, Brown and Christian Davis to bowl donkey drops for 30 overs from which Glam score 180. They declare at lunch, setting Sussex 300 from 66 overs (on edit : I changed this from 64 - if they declare at lunch they don't lose two overs between innings). Given that Sussex lost nine for 103 in 42 overs in their first dig, Glam should go for it...
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Post by flashblade on Aug 25, 2016 18:25:46 GMT
BBC Radio Sussex, Adrian Harms, had set up an interview with Club Chairman, Jim May, for 3.30pm this afternoon and then the heavens opened. Not sure who benefitted from this more - May or the Sussex team? I agree with Hhs, a draw seems likely now... Wright is apparently offering Rudolph a deal. Joyce, Brown and Christian Davis to bowl donkey drops for 30 overs from which Glam score 180. They declare at lunch, setting Sussex 300 from 64 overs. Given that Sussex lost nine for 103 in 42 overs in their first dig, Glam should go for it... I really hate these artificial joke bowling situations. This is not fair on the spectators, and frankly brings the game into disrepute. I don't object to sporting declarations, but this is match fixing!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2016 19:33:41 GMT
I know where you are coming from fb, but it's hardly match-fixing as such a deal would give both Glam and Sussex an outside chance of victory. And Hoveites need to be especially wary about throwing around allegations of match-fixing as Sussex are the only county in modern times to have been found guilty of that crime. (and any resemblance between this emoticon and Dave Brooks, Sussex CEO at the time of the county's disgrace, is entirely coincidental...) I'm not sure that Sussex have ever recovered their composure following that embarrassment. The situation faced by Adams at the Oval was more serious because a promising young player lost his life. But there are obvious similarities in that both Adams and Robinson were both badly exposed as being woefully out-of-touch and ignorant of the criminality going on in their own dressing rooms. I don't think I'm being over-melodramatic here, because if you look at the record, the start of Sussex losing the plot on the field pretty much exactly coincides with the match-fixing revelations.
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Post by flashblade on Aug 25, 2016 20:33:31 GMT
I know where you are coming from fb, but it's hardly match-fixing as such a deal would give both Glam and Sussex an outside chance of victory.And Hoveites need to be especially wary about throwing around allegations of match-fixing as Sussex are the only county in modern times to have been found guilty of that crime. (and any resemblance between this emoticon and Dave Brooks, Sussex CEO at the time of the county's disgrace, is entirely coincidental...) I'm not sure that Sussex have ever recovered their composure following that embarrassment. The situation faced by Adams at the Oval was more serious because a promising young player lost his life. But there are obvious similarities in that both Adams and Robinson were both badly exposed as being woefully out-of-touch and ignorant of the criminality going on in their own dressing rooms. I don't think I'm being over-melodramatic here, because if you look at the record, the start of Sussex losing the plot on the field pretty much exactly coincides with the match-fixing revelations. I've nothing against 'sporting declarations' but that isn't what's proposed here. Joke bowling means you are not trying, with the connivance of the batting side - it's a put up job. That isn't sport, and I reckon it counts as bringing the game into disrepute. I saw this happen when Sussex were playing up at Worcester a few years ago, and for the spectators (on both sides) it was a complete embarrassment. Goodwin was captain that day, got his sums all wrong and declared earlier than agreed! Luke Wright scored an easy ton and looked very shamefaced. No, it was awful.
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Post by hhsussex on Aug 26, 2016 9:39:15 GMT
Opinions seems also to be divided on the Glamorgan board within the excellent View From The Boundary forum forum.viewfromtheboundary.com/index.php?topic=2723.75although not about the ethics of an agreed declaration but on tactical grounds, whether the Glamorgan captain would find it in his interest to do so: Tuncated day at the Gardens - however the lead was stretched. If Sussex want promotion then it's in their best interest to collude a sporting declaration. After doing much to put Worcester out of the promotion race we can do the same tomorrow. With Essex and Leicester yet to come we're going to have a big say in who goes up. All 4 results still possible as they say.
Should be an interesting day tomorrow - like day 5 at a test when anything can happen and often does. I'd like it to go to the last half hour and we'll bowl them out to win by 25 runs. Win worth 21 points to either side, draw 11.
Risk and reward...
Contrasts with I might be wrong but Glamorgan are not going to be able to declare until after lunch and 2 sessions is not enough to bowl out a team on a reasonable pitch. I also cannot see Rudolph wanting to risk another loss so may be happy just to play out the draw. Saying that, Sussex will be desperate for a win to keep in touch at the top although Essex, after another good win this week, look difficult to catch.
and will go along with Iron's view and approach the day with hope. And not a little excitement. Surely Glam will want to win a champ match at Cardiff this summer? Would hate to support a team,in any sport,and just be down and negative all the time.
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Post by jonboy on Aug 26, 2016 10:37:07 GMT
Well two early wickets today mean that there's still a chance we can get a result the correct way. Look what happened to us in the first innings
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2016 11:38:10 GMT
Well two early wickets today mean that there's still a chance we can get a result the correct way. Look what happened to us in the first innings Proper cricket wins the day. Looks like Glamorgan will set-up a Sussex run chase - not by an agreed target and a declaration but by being bowled out. And at 246-7, the Sussex target should be closer to 250 than 300. Well bowled George Garton!
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Post by hhsussex on Aug 26, 2016 12:15:13 GMT
Well two early wickets today mean that there's still a chance we can get a result the correct way. Look what happened to us in the first innings Proper cricket wins the day. Looks like Glamorgan will set-up a Sussex run chase - not by an agreed target and a declaration but by being bowled out. And at 246-7, the Sussex target should be closer to 250 than 300. Well bowled George Garton! Delighted to be wrong with my gloomy prognostications of a draw. At lunch 225 runs, 2 wickets standing, 68 overs. It is beautifully set up and the sun is shining. Whatr could possibly go wrong?
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Post by Steve on Aug 26, 2016 13:07:26 GMT
First ball of our chase seems to put a dent in our ambitions!!
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Post by nemmo on Aug 26, 2016 13:34:21 GMT
Required rate up to about 4 an over. Surely its better to have a go at chasing and fail rather than play out the draw?
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Post by Steve on Aug 26, 2016 13:54:11 GMT
IMO no point in playing the game unless you try to win and at this point we should actually be favourites.
Not sure about the pitch but I would aim for just over 4 an over if possible and review on a regular basis.
Should be close either way.
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Post by hhsussex on Aug 26, 2016 14:30:07 GMT
IMO no point in playing the game unless you try to win and at this point we should actually be favourites. Not sure about the pitch but I would aim for just over 4 an over if possible and review on a regular basis. Should be close either way. That seems to be the script that Sussex are following. Incidentally while there are legitimate worries about the possible loss of Joyce we should recognise what an excellent seaon Nash is enjoying
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