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Post by joe on Aug 27, 2016 11:07:13 GMT
No Joyce for this game and Archer absent because of a bereavement in Barbados. Who comes in? Robinson seems to be out of favour for whatever reason and Shahzad ditto, Machan and Finch remain injured. Whittingham should come in if fit and Salt or H-P. Or perhaps Cachopa?
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Post by nemmo on Aug 27, 2016 16:30:54 GMT
We could really do with England releasing Jordan for this match to cover for Archer as he's not played either of the two ODI's so far and Willey is meant to be coming into the squad. (We all know there is little chance of this happening though)
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Post by jonboy on Aug 27, 2016 16:34:29 GMT
Davis hasn't done much to warrant keeping his place either. The problem is, neither FHP, Salt nor Cachopa have been in any sort of form for the seconds, but could find themselves playing by default. We don't have anyone else, the only in form seconds batsmen, are fellow trialist Harte, and perhaps young Tom Haines. I might be tempted to pick Cachopa, Haines and Robinson
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Post by joe on Aug 27, 2016 16:37:05 GMT
We could really do with England releasing Jordan for this match to cover for Archer as he's not played either of the two ODI's so far and Willey is meant to be coming into the squad. (We all know there is little chance of this happening though) Although he hasn't played I think England see him as a definate 12th man unfortunately.
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Post by nemmo on Aug 27, 2016 17:54:27 GMT
Yes his fielding is unfortunately a little too good.
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Post by hhsussex on Aug 28, 2016 6:35:01 GMT
First things first: Christian Davis looked completely at sea in all of his three innings and at Hove his fielding was pretty inept. Whatever else he has to be replaced. If Machan is fit he should come in at 5 or 6 with Wright moving up to 4. Salt should replace Joyce on the grounds that he'll probably have to do it next season so he might as well start now. He didn't do much wrong against Pakistan earlier in the summer except try to over-hit everything, and Kent's bowling might be more amenable to his style. Then the choices for replacing Archer for this one match start with Robinson, again if fit. No place for Whittingham, unfortunately, unless we feel so cocky about out batting strength that Briggs goes up to No 8 and ask the Kent bowlers to please not bring the ball in to him so he can continue to carve away on the offside.
Problems come in if Machan is still unfit. Fielding both Salt and Hudson-Prentice in the top 6 is a must-win game, where Wright's own form is abysmal and Wiese clearly one or two places higher than he deserves is not a gamble so much as a suicide note. I like pipster's idea of looking for a displaced batsman for a short-term loan and Steve Eskinazi would be an excellent choice if he is available. In fact he would be a very good candidate for a longer-term recruitment. fraudster would love him: South-African born, brought up in Australia and holding a British passport, a fine batsman and a capable wicket-keeper.
My team of players on the current strength, fitness taken as read:
Nash Salt Wells Wright Machan Brown Wiese Robinson Briggs Garton Magoffin
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Post by jonboy on Aug 28, 2016 7:18:03 GMT
First things first: Christian Davis looked completely at sea in all of his three innings and at Hove his fielding was pretty inept. Whatever else he has to be replaced. If Machan is fit he should come in at 5 or 6 with Wright moving up to 4. Salt should replace Joyce on the grounds that he'll probably have to do it next season so he might as well start now. He didn't do much wrong against Pakistan earlier in the summer except try to over-hit everything, and Kent's bowling might be more amenable to his style. Then the choices for replacing Archer for this one match start with Robinson, again if fit. No place for Whittingham, unfortunately, unless we feel so cocky about out batting strength that Briggs goes up to No 8 and ask the Kent bowlers to please not bring the ball in to him so he can continue to carve away on the offside. Problems come in if Machan is still unfit. Fielding both Salt and Hudson-Prentice in the top 6 is a must-win game, where Wright's own form is abysmal and Wiese clearly one or two places higher than he deserves is not a gamble so much as a suicide note. I like pipster's idea of looking for a displaced batsman for a short-term loan and Steve Eskinazi would be an excellent choice if he is available. In fact he would be a very good candidate for a longer-term recruitment. fraudster would love him: South-African born, brought up in Australia and holding a British passport, a fine batsman and a capable wicket-keeper. My team of players on the current strength, fitness taken as read: Nash Salt Wells Wright Machan Brown Wiese Robinson Briggs Garton Magoffin I believe, Machan, like Finch, has had an operation, and is out for the rest of the season. FHP, Salt or Cachopa, none are currently in good form for the seconds, but two will probably have to play (unless we are brave and pick young Tom Haines)
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Post by joe on Aug 28, 2016 7:49:46 GMT
Robinson has been getting runs and wickets in the 2nds regularly, I think if he was going to be selected he would have played against Glamorgan instead of Garton. The fact that he wasn't picked makes me think there's something else going on with him, perhaps he hasn't got up to the desired fitness level or perhaps he's out of favour for some other reason. He does have a bad disciplinary record. I've heard that Machan has had an op on his wrist and is out for the season, as is Finch. This leaves the cupboard rather bare. I agree Davis looked out of his depth and shouldn't play. Much as I would always advocate playing our young contracted players, I think if we want to push on for the title ( however remote that might be ) it may be a good time to bring someone in like Eskinazi on loan. If not then Fynn H-P in for Machan and Whittingham in for Robinson.
Nash Salt Wells Wright Brown H-P Wiese Briggs Whittingham Garton Magoffin
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Post by fraudster on Aug 28, 2016 9:36:37 GMT
Davis hasn't done much to warrant keeping his place either. The problem is, neither FHP, Salt nor Cachopa have been in any sort of form for the seconds, but could find themselves playing by default. We don't have anyone else, the only in form seconds batsmen, are fellow trialist Harte, and perhaps young Tom Haines. I might be tempted to pick Cachopa, Haines and Robinson What you on about JB? H-P got 70 in the last three day game and a ton a few games earlier. Cachopa got a fifty too. Salt's been quiet and didn't even open, though. Haines, Jenner and Harte have been scoring, although I don't favour trialists (Harte), while Robinson, Beer, Whittingham, Garton with bat and/or ball, are all contributing. Most of these players are professional and in the squad - use them or lose them, or forever defy their purpose.
If we ain't good enough to go up we ain't good enough, just like we haven't been all season with all these 'experienced' players.
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Post by coverpoint on Aug 28, 2016 11:15:46 GMT
My XI would be:
Nash Salt Wells Wright Hudson-Prentice Brown Wiese Briggs Garton Magoffin Whittingham (if fit otherwise Robinson)
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Post by inkyfingers on Aug 28, 2016 21:23:06 GMT
I think those who are wishing for Steve Eskinazi are likely to be disappointed.
He’s currently opening the batting for the side who are top of the First Division - why would he join Sussex?
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Post by hhsussex on Aug 30, 2016 7:26:10 GMT
Contrasting views from around the involved messageboards about their sides chances in this round of games. Everyone agrees that Essex v Worcs and Sussex v Kent ought to determine who still has a chance of promotion, but there seems to be considerable self-doubt.
Here is the Essex view, which has a kind oif bulldog Churchillian, give us the tools and we'll finisthe job ring about it-
The business end of the season now starts here . Instead of chasing a lost cause promotion place like previous seasons, we are in the pole position, so just now need to hold are nerve, but it does require a team effort particularly has bonus points might be vital . We have got this far let's finish the job otherwise all that effort will be in vain.
However Worcestershire are much more fatalistic, with a kind of resignation drawn from past experience -
We need to win three out of three (convincingly) and hope the others cancel each other out. Given the problems this year I'd be happy with 2nd spot which could be a blessing in disguise because with only eight in Div1 next year we'd struggle to be in the top six.
Kent don't even get as far as prognosticating about the winners. Of the two threads that cover this match one is devoted to an argument about the theory of chance and probability - Btw a 70% probability means that if an experiment were repeated 10 times, then on average the probable outcome would occur in seven of them. In any run of 10 repetitions, however, there could be anything from 0 to 10 'succesful' outcomes (though the more extreme the result - e.g. 0 or 1 success - the less likely it would be)!
and the other is a detailed timetable and costing exercise of the cheapest way of getting from Canterbury to Hove -
1st Journey Canterbury West 0906 to Ashford 0928; return 2036-2057. Price £5.15 return. Southeastern.
2nd Journey Ashford 0933 to Brighton 1120; return 1832-2018. Price £10.15 return. Southern.
Bus number 7 to and from Brighton Station to Hove ground every 10 minutes. Senior bus-pass. Free.
So, if you are prepared to miss the first half-hour or so you can get there and back for total outlay of £15.30.
It is more expensive if you try and book as one journey. Only downside is that you only have a 5 minute connection at Ashford on the way out. If the Canterbury train is late you have to wait an extra hour.
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Post by hhsussex on Aug 30, 2016 10:36:08 GMT
Note that all 4 days will be 11 am start, even though three of them are in September where we normally start at 10.30 for better light towards the end of play.
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Post by band on Aug 30, 2016 10:39:27 GMT
Is it a wonder the lack of interest in County cricket. I see our best batsmen deems it more important to play against Hong Kong
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2016 10:49:50 GMT
Is it a wonder the lack of interest in County cricket. I see our best batsmen deems it more important to play against Hong Kong Fuels the rumours that he's retiring from county cricket next month and heading back to Eire for good. There was an Ireland game earlier this season which Boyd Rankin declined to play in because it clashed with a vital match for Warwicks , but Joyce opted to play and missed a key game for Sussex.
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