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Post by joe on Aug 31, 2016 8:46:35 GMT
Strengthens the bowling? Both Archer and Garton have better averages than Robinson and Shahzad! Yes. Garton and Archer have only played nine f/c games between them. Shahzad and Robinson total 113 f/c appearances. With so many experienced batsmen out, it was vital to do something to restore the balance between experience and youthful promise in the XI. When Sussex played Kent this time last year in the RLC, I don't think I'd even heard of Salt, Haines, Archer or Garton and if I'd heard of H-P I certainly wouldn't have recognised him. Interesting to look at the Sussex XI that played Kent in August 2015 because only THREE of them are in the squad for this match - Nash, Cachopa and Robinson. Yes, it was a white ball match and if it had been a red ball game then Brown and Magoffin would have probably played (and Cachopa would have dropped out). But eight changes in the team from a year ago suggests one of two things. a) It's an indication of the fantastic depth in the Sussex squad b) It's an indication of a club that's in a state of flux and uncertainty I'm sure we all know which it is! ps on edit: Kent will play eight of those who appeared v Sussex a year ago and they are strengthened by the changes as three imports in Dickson, Gidman and Viljoen come in for three homegrown players in Blake, Cowdrey and Hunn. Garton has an injured knee, Archer is in Barbados at a family funeral, otherwise they would have played ahead of Robinson and Shahzad so I don't know what point you're trying to make? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2016 9:05:18 GMT
The point is that I said the bowling was strengthened by Robinson and Shahzad replacing Garton and Archer and you disputed it!
You also claimed that it looked like a second XI, which would have been far truer with Garton and Archer in the side.
Their inclusion would have meant four players - Salt, Haines or H-P, Garton and Archer - who are completely new to championship cricket and have just 10 f/c appearances between them.
With such a weak batting line-up, I am heartened that we have at least been able to strengthen the bowling with the inclusion of two proven championship seamers. You are, of course, entitled to disagree!
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Post by joe on Aug 31, 2016 9:40:10 GMT
Salt misses out. Toss uncontested, Sussex bat first.
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Post by jonboy on Aug 31, 2016 9:44:02 GMT
Will Tom Haines open, as he does for the seconds
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2016 9:49:52 GMT
Toss uncontested, Sussex bat first. Yes, that's interesting, isn't it? Apart from Old Trafford, where there is cloud cover this morning and showers forcast this afternoon, in every other match starting today the team winning the toss chose to bat. Smart move by Northeast, I think. Sussex have three batsmen - Cachopa, Haines and Hudson-Prentice - playing their first championship match of the season and Kent will be hoping to expose such a soft underbelly as early as possible when the ball is still swinging. If Haines opens he is going to have a titanic struggle against Coles and that wily old swinger Darren Stevens. Heavy responsibility on Nash and Wells. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2016 10:16:23 GMT
If Haines opens he is going to have a titanic struggle against Coles and that wily old swinger Darren Stevens. Heavy responsibility on Nash and Wells. And all too predictably he's done a Christian Davis - fifth ball duck to a Stevens wobble ball. Please don't accuse me of gatemouthing him. It was in the script from the moment he was told he was opening the batting rather than Luke Wells!!! |
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Post by joe on Aug 31, 2016 10:23:33 GMT
They are playing on an unused pitch which may have influenced the decision.
As I write Wells goes and Fynn H-P comes out.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2016 10:27:13 GMT
9-3. The innings defeat I predicted last night when we saw the team sheet is already looking odds-on.
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Post by Wicked Cricket on Aug 31, 2016 11:21:33 GMT
The run out of Nash by Cachopa could not have been more disastrous. Now we require a huge innings from Captain, Ben Brown, to steady the ship. One of the most important innings of his career. Hopefully, his winning knock against Glamorgan should help his confidence. Otherwise, this game could be over within 3 days.
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Post by jonboy on Aug 31, 2016 11:23:31 GMT
Pretty grim, all the same
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Post by Steve on Aug 31, 2016 11:48:08 GMT
I'm afraid to say this is rather embarrassing.
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Post by joe on Aug 31, 2016 11:54:25 GMT
From grim to grimmer.
Woeful performance.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2016 12:18:27 GMT
A couple of weeks ago I said on here that I though Sussex are currently where Kent were circa 2011/12, and so it might take another five seasons before Sussex can rebuild a side that is competitive.
Interesting, then , to compare the ages of the two teams as listed on cricinfo.
Everyone goes on about Kent's 'promising youngsters' but that view is actually several years out of date. Kent must now be one of the oldest teams in the championship - five of their XI in this match are over 30 and Bell-Drummond (23) is the only one who is under 25.
The Sussex XI contains SIX players who aren't over r 25 and only three (Magoffin, Nash and Wiese) who are over 30.
on edit: Shahzad is also over 30 , as he turned 31 last month.
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Post by jonboy on Aug 31, 2016 12:18:58 GMT
At least young Robbo is making a point
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Post by jonboy on Aug 31, 2016 12:26:14 GMT
A couple of weeks ago I said on here that I though Sussex are currently where Kent were circa 2011/12, and so it might take another five seasons before Sussex can rebuild a side that is competitive. Interesting, then , to compare the ages of the two teams as listed on cricinfo. Everyone goes on about Kent's 'promising youngsters' but that view is actually several years out of date. Kent must now be one of the oldest teams in the championship - five of their XI in this match are over 30 and Bell-Drummond (23) is the only one who is under 25. The Sussex XI contains SIX players who are under 25 and only three (Magoffin, Nash and Wiese) who are over 30. I still believe this could be put right with a couple of astute signings ( three if Joyce leaves ) and some behind the scenes changes. Insufficient recruitment last winer, caused by stringent cuts to the playing budget, are responsible for the position we now find ourselves in. At least we are now acknowledging that we need to add quality to the squad, and we need to make sure we follow that up with actions, rather in the way we did by tempting Chris Adams to Hove back in the day |
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