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Post by coverpoint on May 1, 2021 16:13:45 GMT
For too long the art of teaching batting has been forgotten by Sussex. It will come back and bite them. Kirtley happy to sing praises of fast bowlers; and we do have some promising youngsters. But he needs to understand the need for good young batters. This is a hard skill in English conditions.We should as a priority invest in a batting coach that has a good pedigree at the top level. Why hasn't Greenfield got it sorted? Why did we lose Yardy to Kent on his return from Australia? You rate Yardy do you? Kent were beaten by Glamorgan in 2 days with scores of 74 and 138. The grass isn’t always greener on the other side. How many first class runs did Wright and Swift score? We need to get Carson on. |
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Post by joe on May 1, 2021 16:27:07 GMT
You rate Yardy do you? Kent were beaten by Glamorgan in 2 days with scores of 74 and 138. The grass isn’t always greener on the other side. How many first class runs did Wright and Swift score? We need to get Carson on. The best batsmen don’t always make the best coaches. |
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Post by Wicked Cricket on May 1, 2021 16:27:42 GMT
Oh for Ollie. At times like this, we need our best bowlers for any chance of a win. Lancs are making it look easy. We desperately need a wicket.  Lancashire 47-0 I agree bring on Carson at this early stage. Nothing to lose. As a captain you need to think out of the box at times like this. |
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Post by coverpoint on May 1, 2021 16:38:23 GMT
BRING ON CARSON FFS!
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Post by seawolf on May 1, 2021 16:44:36 GMT
Can’t believe Carson is still not on. Should have opened the bowling this time. Nothing to lose!
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Post by liquidskin on May 1, 2021 17:25:40 GMT
Well, generally competitive, so that's good for any side, and especially a young one. We're not learning fast though, really thrown good positions away in the last two games, albeit against decent sides. Brown is a drifter and, S&F, there isn't a door out of his box. There's not even a toilet window.
I have no idea why Garton was bowling around the wicket to the right hander straight away. It's bizarre. They have short memories, try and remember the last game lads, like how Garton got the right handers out.
There's the making of a good side here, and it's fantastic that we're trusting the youth. Although it's forced of course from money-man Andrew. This team needs a quality positive leader and more aggression. I think Salt & Head will really help our cause and if we stop doing stupid things like resting our best bowler and not opening with our second best bowler, we could go well.
Having seen a decent amount of the much praised Carson in this game, I'm not sure what the fuss is about. I think he's been steady but lucky. I haven't seen him turn a single ball, certainly not in tonight's spell.
Very good live feed from Sussex, I thought. When did the bomb go off at Hove? How much of Carma's cash was spent on the ground? It looks a mess these days.
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Post by sponge on May 1, 2021 17:45:25 GMT
How many first class runs did Wright and Swift score? We need to get Carson on. The best batsmen don’t always make the best coaches. Agreed. What disturbs me Joe is Sussex's lack of vision in this critical department. Bit unfair to cane Yardy on latest Kent first team debacle. Yardy was good enough for Sussex batting coach, left for Aus, came back quickly and then had to find employment at Kent. Don't mind Swifty and Ash, but as I said before there is no substitute for quality and having scored runs at the highest level (eg Ramps). Suspect the problem is financial. However, having said that Ravi probably wasn't cheap; and I don't see him providing any input to the youngsters in 4 day cricket. Hopefully Travis can do this. |
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Post by flashblade on May 1, 2021 17:48:48 GMT
The best batsmen don’t always make the best coaches. Agreed. What disturbs me Joe is Sussex's lack of vision in this critical department. Bit unfair to cane Yardy on latest Kent first team debacle. Yardy was good enough for Sussex batting coach, left for Aus, came back quickly and then had to find employment at Kent. Don't mind Swifty and Ash, but as I said before there is no substitute for quality and having scored runs at the highest level (eg Ramps). Suspect the problem is financial. However, having said that Ravi probably wasn't cheap; and I don't see him providing any input to the youngsters in 4 day cricket. Hopefully Travis can do this. Did Sussex's batting improve under Yardy?? |
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Post by joe on May 1, 2021 19:30:57 GMT
A bit of a disappointing day but this will happen with a young inexperienced team against one of the strongest.
We’re still in it, just.
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Post by coverpoint on May 2, 2021 5:43:34 GMT
Agreed. What disturbs me Joe is Sussex's lack of vision in this critical department. Bit unfair to cane Yardy on latest Kent first team debacle. Yardy was good enough for Sussex batting coach, left for Aus, came back quickly and then had to find employment at Kent. Don't mind Swifty and Ash, but as I said before there is no substitute for quality and having scored runs at the highest level (eg Ramps). Suspect the problem is financial. However, having said that Ravi probably wasn't cheap; and I don't see him providing any input to the youngsters in 4 day cricket. Hopefully Travis can do this. Did Sussex's batting improve under Yardy?? No but from comments Haines has made it sounds like the batsmen were not practising hard enough. You won't get anywhere in life unless you put the hard yards in. As for the game are we still in it? Theoretically yes as Lancashire lost 10-137 in the first innings and if they do so again they would be all out for 239. However, do I think lightening is going to strike twice? No. |
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Post by joe on May 2, 2021 7:50:00 GMT
The best batsmen don’t always make the best coaches. Agreed. What disturbs me Joe is Sussex's lack of vision in this critical department. Bit unfair to cane Yardy on latest Kent first team debacle. Yardy was good enough for Sussex batting coach, left for Aus, came back quickly and then had to find employment at Kent. Don't mind Swifty and Ash, but as I said before there is no substitute for quality and having scored runs at the highest level (eg Ramps). Suspect the problem is financial. However, having said that Ravi probably wasn't cheap; and I don't see him providing any input to the youngsters in 4 day cricket. Hopefully Travis can do this. Kent are currently bottom of the table having lost 3 of their 4 games (the other was draw due to the weather) They have 6 batting points, Sussex have 12. The difference between Sussex in the last few years and how they’ve started this year is like night an day and that’s down to Salisbury and Kirtley. They’ve backed the youngsters and have instilled a belief in them. They’ve brought the squad together cohesively and worked them hard over the winter. We are challenging counties like Yorkshire and Lancs and taking games into the 4th day. We won’t win every game, we may not win many this year but we are improving and that’s all you can ask. We are building a new CC squad who are able to compete and entertain their fans for years to come. |
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Post by sponge on May 2, 2021 8:33:58 GMT
Agreed. What disturbs me Joe is Sussex's lack of vision in this critical department. Bit unfair to cane Yardy on latest Kent first team debacle. Yardy was good enough for Sussex batting coach, left for Aus, came back quickly and then had to find employment at Kent. Don't mind Swifty and Ash, but as I said before there is no substitute for quality and having scored runs at the highest level (eg Ramps). Suspect the problem is financial. However, having said that Ravi probably wasn't cheap; and I don't see him providing any input to the youngsters in 4 day cricket. Hopefully Travis can do this. Kent are currently bottom of the table having lost 3 of their 4 games (the other was draw due to the weather) They have 6 batting points, Sussex have 12. The difference between Sussex in the last few years and how they’ve started this year is like night an day and that’s down to Salisbury and Kirtley. They’ve backed the youngsters and have instilled a belief in them. They’ve brought the squad together cohesively and worked them hard over the winter. We are challenging counties like Yorkshire and Lancs and taking games into the 4th day. We won’t win every game, we may not win many this year but we are improving and that’s all you can ask. We are building a new CC squad who are able to compete and entertain their fans for years to come. There does seem to be a better team spirit and togetherness. Credit to the new management team for that. I also think Richard Halsall is helping to steer the ship for the future. |
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Post by coverpoint on May 2, 2021 10:09:03 GMT
Where was the second slip? The only chance of us winning the match is to take wickets. Do we really need a deep square leg?
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Post by sponge on May 2, 2021 10:10:33 GMT
Oh dear. Sussex need wickets and only one slip to Meaker. Ball goes through, chance gone. Come on Brown and Meaker, set a field to get wickets!!
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Post by liquidskin on May 2, 2021 10:15:21 GMT
Exactly that, Sponge & CP. One slip? They need 130 runs, we need eight wickets, are we hoping to contain them for the draw? It's utterly bizarre and incompetent in the extreme. It falls on Brown but every player and the coaches too. There is no excuse for this unfathomable error.
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