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Post by liquidskin on May 27, 2021 17:58:53 GMT
Not too late for a turnaround - the old flip-a-dip? Yeah? Who's with me? Ah forget it.
So what has Orr done in the 2s? How many tons? I agree Rawlins is lucky but it's not Orr, or any batsman who should be coming in for him, it's a bowler. Rawlins is a batsman, he is not a fifth bowler, so we are playing a defensive team, again.
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Post by liquidskin on May 27, 2021 18:08:40 GMT
It's not the management who are gambling on a group of homies Devon Exile it's Andrew. He's made his intentions clear and they ain't based around a decent 4 day team, so we'll be very lucky to even compete with the top teams while he's leading the way - he's all about the money and he thinks it's in the T20. Pretty sure the management would love to add a couple more big guns to the eleven. Even I would, and I'm a renowned kiddie... what's it called, not that, I like young players.
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Post by philh on May 27, 2021 20:25:50 GMT
Well, Crocombe and Carson gave us a measure of respectability in the batting, but, to be fair, a very inexperienced bowling attack did very well. Crocombe gave nothing away, Atkins was hit and miss with enough hits to make the batsmen wary, Carson plugged away like a more experienced spinner and Garton was generally ok to good. We looked fired up in the field and are still in a game that looked a lost cause before lunch. Will this young team have another bad patch in the game that puts Northants on top? Possibly even probably, but today showed some good signs alongside the worrying signs. There is potential in the side.
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Post by coverpoint on May 28, 2021 8:07:46 GMT
Sussex have signed too many players that have become T20 mercenaries. Imagine what the team would have looked like with Archer, Bopara, Jordan, Robinson, Salt and Wright in (not to mention Khan, Mills and Wiese).
Salt
Haines
Van Zyl
Head
Wright
Bopara
Brown c, wk
Jordan
Robinson
Archer
Carson
What is the point of signing players like Archer, Bopara Jordan, Salt and Wright) who are only really interested in playing T20 cricket? Calling the county championship first class cricket has become a joke. It's 2XI standard now.
We are doing well to even be in the match with over half a first team missing. Looking at the youngers Haines, Carson, Crocombe, Garton ant Atkins aren't the problem. Thomason, Clark and Rawlins are not scoring enough runs. It doesn't help that the three most senior players Brown, Head and Van Zyl have not performed once again.
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Post by Wicked Cricket on May 28, 2021 11:01:54 GMT
Interesting constructive criticism from Adrian Harms Re: George Garton. Completely agree with him. George is a wicket-taker, but at a cost of 46 runs a pop this season. As Harms says, he needs to become far more consistent. If George bowls three shockers an over which go for ten runs in a tight match like this one, but comes up with a superb yorker to get rid of Kerrigan, what does a Captain do? Can't Jon Lewis do some moonlighting and help George become more consistent? Harms also alludes to Garton's vulnerability to injury and wonders whether his inconsistency is partly down to this. eg. his "sore knees" may have been a negative influence this season. Re: Jack Carson, major concern is that as news of his skill travels around the county circuit, batsmen will take him on and his confidence could suffer. It is happening again in this match as Rossington whacks him for six. edit
Whenever I watch Rawlins bowl, it's as if he's giving the opposition batting practice. editGarton gets the break through and does it again. What a dilemma for Brown. Perhaps, only bowl George for short spells of three overs, in a bid to keep Garton's run tally down to a manageable level. He seems to get a fair number of wickets soon after coming on. editFinally, some luck for Sussex. A slipping Northants batsman. As Harms says, "Garton certainly makes things happen!" Unfortunately, the camera completely misses the incident.  Northants 167-7
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Excellent Captaincy from Brown as he regularly moves the bowlers around. Garton is taken off and leaves the outfield, Crocombe returns and immediately gets the wicket of Parnell. 176-8Anything less than a 50 lead from Northants and Sussex have found batting redemption for yesterday. Atkins bowling really well, but then is dropped at slip by Clark. What a shame. Berg too, who can be a dangerous tail ender. Northants 195-8 at lunch. A 20 run lead. God forbid that dropped catch by Clark is going to be costly. |
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Post by ashingtonmartlet on May 28, 2021 11:16:03 GMT
Sussex have signed too many players that have become T20 mercenaries. Imagine what the team would have looked like with Archer, Bopara, Jordan, Robinson, Salt and Wright in (not to mention Khan, Mills and Wiese). Salt Haines Van Zyl Head Wright Bopara Brown c, wk Jordan Robinson Archer Carson What is the point of signing players like Archer, Bopara Jordan, Salt and Wright) who are only really interested in playing T20 cricket? Calling the county championship first class cricket has become a joke. It's 2XI standard now. We are doing well to even be in the match with over half a first team missing. Looking at the youngers Haines, Carson, Crocombe, Garton ant Atkins aren't the problem. Thomason, Clark and Rawlins are not scoring enough runs. It doesn't help that the three most senior players Brown, Head and Van Zyl have not performed once again. Not sure you can call Salt a T20 mercenary.😮 he plays all formats for us, he’s just injured at the moment. And the same with Wright - we signed him in 2004!!! It’s not like we’ve signed him since the T20 mercenary became a thing!! He’s played a fair amount of championship cricket over the years, but not in the last few . But was is the position with Jordan? Must have finished quarantining now, can’t believe England have control over him at present. So he should be in our championship side? |
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Post by ashingtonmartlet on May 28, 2021 11:20:56 GMT
Not too late for a turnaround - the old flip-a-dip? Yeah? Who's with me? Ah forget it. So what has Orr done in the 2s? How many tons? I agree Rawlins is lucky but it's not Orr, or any batsman who should be coming in for him, it's a bowler. Rawlins is a batsman, he is not a fifth bowler, so we are playing a defensive team, again. Correct. Playing 6 and 4 hasn’t exactly been justified with large totals has it, and I don’t like Brown batting ahead of batsmen either. It should be 5 batsmen (hopefully Salt at 5 when he’s fit), Brown, then 5 bowlers, with Jordan at 7. |
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Post by ashingtonmartlet on May 28, 2021 11:24:56 GMT
It's not the management who are gambling on a group of homies Devon Exile it's Andrew. He's made his intentions clear and they ain't based around a decent 4 day team, so we'll be very lucky to even compete with the top teams while he's leading the way - he's all about the money and he thinks it's in the T20. Pretty sure the management would love to add a couple more big guns to the eleven. Even I would, and I'm a renowned kiddie... what's it called, not that, I like young players. 😂🤭 agreed again. Recruitment of some experience for the 4 day side has been virtually non-existent in recent years, especially the batting, apart from Head for what was intended to be 2020. As you say, either we’ve decided to prioritise T20 or someone has some sort of undying faith in our homegrown players and pitching them all in together.....or both. |
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Post by seawolf on May 28, 2021 12:11:56 GMT
It's not the management who are gambling on a group of homies Devon Exile it's Andrew. He's made his intentions clear and they ain't based around a decent 4 day team, so we'll be very lucky to even compete with the top teams while he's leading the way - he's all about the money and he thinks it's in the T20. Pretty sure the management would love to add a couple more big guns to the eleven. Even I would, and I'm a renowned kiddie... what's it called, not that, I like young players. 😂🤭 agreed again. Recruitment of some experience for the 4 day side has been virtually non-existent in recent years, especially the batting, apart from Head for what was intended to be 2020. As you say, either we’ve decided to prioritise T20 or someone has some sort of undying faith in our homegrown players and pitching them all in together.....or both. Agree, probably both |
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Post by sponge on May 28, 2021 12:14:22 GMT
Sussex have done well to restrict Northants this morning. Good bowling changes by Brown. Well done.
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Post by seawolf on May 28, 2021 12:19:17 GMT
Not a bad morning for Sussex.
Lucky to be in the ground and I have to say that Atkins looks really quick. His figures not doing him justice so far.
Delray also bowling well.
Atkins looks like a real prospect for the future if nurtured well.
Just got to clean up the last 2 wickets and bat well 😞
Onwards & upwards.
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Post by Wicked Cricket on May 28, 2021 13:12:46 GMT
That Berg dropped catch by Clark before lunch is proving costly.  Seems the opening Northants seamers are proving to be Sussex's nemeses with both ball and bat. Northants now 50 ahead. Alarm bells are ringing. Sussex seem to let the opposition off the hook at the most critical moments. Lack that ruthless touch. Oh dear. Anyone want to join me in a communal vomit?  Lead now 66, Sussex appear forlorn in the field and the Northants last wicket partnership is now 37. |
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Post by seawolf on May 28, 2021 13:32:01 GMT
We’re letting it slip somewhat.
Would prefer more attacking field placings.
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Post by Wicked Cricket on May 28, 2021 13:57:36 GMT
Here we go...again.  Thommo's form seems to have fallen off the Shoreham fly over. As Harms says, we need either van Zyl or Head or both to come to the O/S party to make a fist of this match. |
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Post by devonexile on May 28, 2021 14:00:51 GMT
Oh, how we missed that fourth seamer. Not a great day with the ball for Carson and Rawlins never looked like taking a wicket. Very impressive from Crocombe and Atkins and four wickets for Garton in amongst a mixed bag of deliveries.
If your glass is half empty, its very much a case of a poor dropped catch at 190 for 8 with Berg on just 8 costing us a hefty first innings deficit.
If your glass is half full, then from 67 for 8 just after lunch on the first day to where we are now and where we could have been, then it could have been a lot lot worse.
What next? Thomason and Haines are due runs, will Van Zyl, Head and Brown deliver as the experienced batters and perhaps some useful cameos from Rawlins and Garton?
Or, will we be served up another oh so familiar second innings batting collapse that sees us 20 for 4 or 50 for 7?
We need a big score and anything less than 325 plus and we can write this one off as another home defeat.
Hoping for the former, but recent history doesn't offer much confidence. No matter what the outcome, hopefully we will at least see the side make a decent go of it and at least post a score to challenge Northants.
...and so it begins, Thomason out cheaply. The early season optimism that we had finally found a reliable opening partnership seems a false dawn. Sadly, I am already anticipating the match will have slipped beyond us by the close tonight with it all being over by just after lunch tomorrow.
A lot rests on our two overseas batters.
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